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nonplasticcholyman

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oh go on youtube and leave him you're a fake messages... vic alexander.That's a good idea.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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you are so nasty may alaha forgive you as I do.
 
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wdeaton65

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here's the email I sent him nust now....proof...I bet you he won't bother with you...he'll say you don't know jack."vic I have joined a chat room, christian and been telling these guys all I know and they reckon you're a liar a fake a false prophet and one guy reckons he knows how to read the cuneiform and tablets. I doubt it...etc but I've been standing up for you because I believe you.in you.
So can you please for me, take up their challenge and prove them I'm not lying. i gave them you're site link and email, but they won't go look and accept it as true.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/62286-real-truth-revealed-3.html#post992850


To bad you wont stand for the real word of GOD Yeshua as much as you will this false teacher that is sad.....................
 
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richie_2uk

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What is a false Teacher? No person rightfully takes upon himself the role of a teacher or any other ministry of God without God’s power and authority. In a world full of teachers, preachers, elders, deacons, speakers, writers, evangelists, pastors, prophets, and apostles, rare are the true ministers representing the Lord Jesus Christ. Many are the false, and very few the true, even as in Noah’s day.
False teachers are those who presume to teach in their own authority (as did the scribes), often in the Name of the Lord, when He has not sent them. Though they have knowledge of Biblical truths, they are, at best, in delusion, presuming to turn others to the Kingdom of God when, in fact, they are building the corrupt kingdoms of men. At worst, they are deliberate charlatans, seeking to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy, using Biblical truths to do so. Though false teachers lead astray, the Biblical truths they teach can lead to Christ those whom God has called and is choosing. The truth quickens those being given the gift of faith. However, faith manifest in the one who receives the truth does not certify as God’s representative the one who speaks some truth. The child of faith who walks in obedience to Christ will soon enough part ways with those who mix truth with error. This is God’s commandment:“Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty” (2 Corinthians 6:17-18 MKJV).
False teachers mix the holy things of God with their carnal thoughts, creating a false form of godliness. They can’t do otherwise, because they haven’t taken up the cross and submitted themselves to Christ’s righteousness. They are still in their sin nature, living unto themselves, teaching doctrines and commandments of men.
And because false teachers haven’t submitted themselves to Christ’s righteousness, they can’t lead others there. A false teacher is one who may speak truth, yet points his hearers in another direction. Mean anything to you NONPLASTICCHOLYMAN?
 
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richie_2uk

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FACT! NONPLASTICCHOLYMAN FACT!
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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hey its what I read.here check this out....Eoshoa Msheekha (Jesus the Messiah) spoke Aramaic. Of course, this was two thousand years ago, the language has evolved and today it is like old English; it sounds very different. I call it Ancient Aramaic. The Ancient Church of the East, that emerged out of Jerusalem at the end of the Apostolic Age, referred to it as Leeshana Ateeqah or the "old tongue." It is still used in the liturgy, although it is explained in the modern vernacular by the priests and deacons during church services. There are a few priests and bishops that know how to read it. It comes in many dialects of the Middle East and Africa of the Eastern Churches or Eastern rites of the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Nobody speaks this language anymore -- not the ancient form of it. Those who claim to speak Aramaic, are only speaking modern versions of the language, just as nobody speaks Old English or even Middle English anymore. Nobody speaks Koine Greek, Old Norse, or Old German, and so on. I think you are a zionist or maybe a fake.
 
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Ariel82

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so how can your teacher be a "native" translator if the language is no longer spoken?

or does that mean he is a native modern Aramaic speaker?

which is like saying you are native modern English speaker, doesn't make you an expert in Old English.

Nobody speaks this language anymore -- not the ancient form of it. Those who claim to speak Aramaic, are only speaking modern versions of the language, just as nobody speaks Old English or even Middle English anymore.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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why do you hate me so much with a passion?

So you've got to insult me using Hebrew?

oh i see you are using a modern version Hmmm okay...MKJV...figures.I understand. You read from a known contradictory version,admitted to by many evangelists today,and discredited by many more like Bertman,and others who say, King James authorized it NOT God.....;) you're trying to break me hahahahaha not bad keep trying....
I not falsie at all. as I said just have different version in a different lingo from the region JC came from.So if I had one in African to English am I a falsie? Or the real Jew version, according to the Israelis, Ethiopian...cos I am black?


"blessed are they when they are accused falsely..."
 
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Jesus never wrote anything in the Bible, though he did speak it, others wrote it though.
 

crossnote

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Nonplastic- Can you tell me 'The Real Truth' how a lost sinner is saved?
(You can look it up in the Lamsa or where ever).
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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I have been on another site with a christian chat room if I wanted to brag; I've helped maybe converted, 2 nigerians and its hard to say this I did that...after all Noah got NO ONE FOR years hahahahaha maybe I'm the same i just talk to people about it sometimes I get a nice surprise and see someone else on their talking about EOshoa msheeka! is it the entire must to get 1000 converts,is that the over all objective?

"too much into the technical you've (me) forgotten the basics of Jesus teachings...L-O-V-E as well as the righteous walk walking in the spirit spirit of truth etc etc" as often told by christian scientists I visit and spend time with.:eek: Walk to the shop give alms,tithes food advice help etc etc.fast,water only pray...but this is just the small things,mere things I do.
I know there's more to the walk than that.
 
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jimmyjames

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I agree with you the readings are awesome and especially that of the book of Matthew concerning the resurrection.
 
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and, also, are you a Muslim? you said allah forgive you? that's a dead give away that what you're saying is bizarre...
 

crossnote

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Nonplastic- Can you tell me 'The Real Truth' how a lost sinner is saved? (You can look it up in the Lamsa or where ever).

I have been on another site with a christian chat room if I wanted to brag; I've helped maybe converted, 2 nigerians and its hard to say this I did that...after all Noah got NO ONE FOR years hahahahaha maybe I'm the same i just talk to people about it sometimes I get a nice surprise and see someone else on their talking about EOshoa msheeka! is it the entire must to get 1000 converts,is that the over all objective?

"too much into the technical you've (me) forgotten the basics of Jesus teachings...L-O-V-E as well as the righteous walk walking in the spirit spirit of truth etc etc" as often told by christian scientists I visit and spend time with.:eek: Walk to the shop give alms,tithes food advice help etc etc.fast,water only pray...but this is just the small things,mere things I do.
I know there's more to the walk than that.
 
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richie_2uk

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Nonplasticcholyman: you still trying to convert us with what you believe? And to clarify a fact. it's not that we HATE you as you asked, its what you are trying to do is what we disagreeing with, we don't hate you, just what you trying to say and claim.
 
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Ariel82

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this might help...

I am trying to build my own "gathering" here,as the church of the east is not here,only the orthodox outside of Russia is.If it's similar or the same routines,worship,rituals,etc etc as the C O T E I'll go there.I'm yet to. I want to bring the C O T E here, but may need to go there to get fully ordained,at the moment I'm "ordained" x2 and need to fill out the tax exempt forms (I R S).

But the free tax benefits I made NOT my main objective! I didn't want to go/through to the Bible college,and pay huge bucks,to be forced to learn and always use their "way",and told never do anything about anything, if I find errors,contradictions.And get thrown out the door like Jazzy Jeff. :rolleyes:
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hattiebod

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I have been on another site with a christian chat room if I wanted to brag; I've helped maybe converted, 2 nigerians and its hard to say this I did that...after all Noah got NO ONE FOR years hahahahaha maybe I'm the same i just talk to people about it sometimes I get a nice surprise and see someone else on their talking about EOshoa msheeka! is it the entire must to get 1000 converts,is that the over all objective?

"too much into the technical you've (me) forgotten the basics of Jesus teachings...L-O-V-E as well as the righteous walk walking in the spirit spirit of truth etc etc" as often told by christian scientists I visit and spend time with.:eek: Walk to the shop give alms,tithes food advice help etc etc.fast,water only pray...but this is just the small things,mere things I do.
I know there's more to the walk than that.
There is not much to the walk...we are simply asked to repent and believe in Christ crucified, Gods only Son. His blood shed on the cross for our sins. It's available to all, it's not complicated. It only gets complicated when people seem to think we are to read scriptures in Aramaic, follow a 'religion' that's not been lost, newly discovered or hidden. The church you are following has been around since the 4th century. It's great you believe you have found THE way, but whenever someone tries to tell me I am not on the right path, I check it out. I think you will find that's what most Christians will do...and, when the teachings do not align with Biblical teaching, when it is contrary to the foundations of our faith and appears to sow confusion...well, you will find many will say 'No, thank you.'.
You say love is important? Then please, you need to speak with gentleness. Christ had some harsh teaching for many, but He spoke with self control, gentleness and wisdom. We can all give to the poor, work in a homeless shelter, fast, pray and read our Bibles. We can reel off huge chunks of scripture off by heart too....but NONE of this makes us secure in our faith. Many have deeply held beliefs and faith...but it is misplaced. We are to guard our faith...so forgive me if i get upset and speak unkindly....but reading some of what you write saddens me that some may be drawn away from the Way, The Truth & The light...Jesus. I pray as you have asked us, that you will also do more research and be shown that the road you are being drawn down....may be more dangerous than you could ever know, eroding your faith and weakening your relationship with our precious Lord. God Bless you. <><
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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we don't have the 'original aramaic manuscripts' of the new testament...if they ever existed at all...

the 'aramaic' text that these kinds of 'aramaic primacy' translations are based on...which is actually -syriac- by the way...is just a translation of the greek texts...

so you aren't getting closer to the truth...instead you are getting an english translation of a syriac translation of a greek text that some claim is itself a translation of an original aramaic text...that means a lot of opportunities for stuff to be 'lost in translation'

also the 'church of the east' was found to be heretical in 431...basically because nestorius denied the unity of jesus' humanity and divinity...