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the "beast" is not clever,the better word would be "self righteous" as well as "desperate" and "rebellious",and "fallen from grace",and how be it that God is not 3 and yet 1 as well as 1 yet 3,for "is anything too hard for God"?
hath God not the power to be as he chooses?
he hath the power to make bones and flesh alive once more,so hath he not the power to be more than one being?
God hath the power to do more than any creature or man made device,so how hath he not the power to manifest himself in multiple locations while not limiting his power?
Yes Indeed God is "Almighty" therefore when one reads..."with God ALL things are possible",it is no lie,God hath made ALL and has power over ALL,there for he can be as he wishes,whether he manifests himself in his original awesome presence,his form as a man whom did walk this earth,or as the form of the holy spirit teaching and guiding those whom have accepted Jesus/Emmanuel(God with us),as saviour,just as Jesus said"for if ye have seen the son then ye have seen the father",notice in the bible that when speaking of God,Jesus,and the holy spirit,the words"are one" are used not "as one" as with referring to man and woman when married,the words "are one" are used because they are 1 yet 3,3 yet 1,for all are the "manifestations"(forms)of God,allow me to clarify further...
1.God,The Father,Great I am,Jehovah,-The original all powerful and glorified(one would die if they looked upon his face) form of God.
2.Jesus/Emmanuel,Christ,the lamb of God,-God made flesh,holy spirit born unto Mary Magdalene,and the all powerful yet not as overwhelmingly Glorified form(one did not die when looking upon his face) of God.
3.Holy spirit/Holy ghost,spirit of Truth,The Comforter,-omni present manifestation(form)of God that is taken when God seeks to teach and comfort his children(everyone)without having to actually appear in a body like manifestation(form) but rather in a more discreet and wisdom like presence.(with in body,mind,and soul of individuals),All these 3 are God,therefore of a "TRUTH" all three "ARE" "ONE".
hath God not the power to be as he chooses?
he hath the power to make bones and flesh alive once more,so hath he not the power to be more than one being?
God hath the power to do more than any creature or man made device,so how hath he not the power to manifest himself in multiple locations while not limiting his power?
Yes Indeed God is "Almighty" therefore when one reads..."with God ALL things are possible",it is no lie,God hath made ALL and has power over ALL,there for he can be as he wishes,whether he manifests himself in his original awesome presence,his form as a man whom did walk this earth,or as the form of the holy spirit teaching and guiding those whom have accepted Jesus/Emmanuel(God with us),as saviour,just as Jesus said"for if ye have seen the son then ye have seen the father",notice in the bible that when speaking of God,Jesus,and the holy spirit,the words"are one" are used not "as one" as with referring to man and woman when married,the words "are one" are used because they are 1 yet 3,3 yet 1,for all are the "manifestations"(forms)of God,allow me to clarify further...
1.God,The Father,Great I am,Jehovah,-The original all powerful and glorified(one would die if they looked upon his face) form of God.
2.Jesus/Emmanuel,Christ,the lamb of God,-God made flesh,holy spirit born unto Mary Magdalene,and the all powerful yet not as overwhelmingly Glorified form(one did not die when looking upon his face) of God.
3.Holy spirit/Holy ghost,spirit of Truth,The Comforter,-omni present manifestation(form)of God that is taken when God seeks to teach and comfort his children(everyone)without having to actually appear in a body like manifestation(form) but rather in a more discreet and wisdom like presence.(with in body,mind,and soul of individuals),All these 3 are God,therefore of a "TRUTH" all three "ARE" "ONE".
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Well dagallen, why is it you never quote any scriptures to prove your uninformed opionion on issues? All you do is just make "pronouncements" and discard Biblical proof by just saying it's not true. Even here I'll show you how clueless you are since you said, "Show me where scriptures says, you have to believe in a trinity concept in order to be saved?"
First of all I don't believe belief in the Trinity is a requirement for salvation. Does that surprise you, it should. The belief that the Trinity is true is the "RESULT" of salvation. Why do I know this? Because one CANNOT know Jesus Christ and somehow miss the fact that He is God. You cannot have experienced the presense of the Holy Spirit of God and somehow miss that He is God. This backed up by Romans 8:9-11.
"However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if inded the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. vs10, And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the apirit is alive because of righteousness. vs11, But if the Spirit of Him/God the Father who rasied Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies, through His Spirit who indwells you."
Since you don't believe Jesus is God how is it possible for the Spirit of Jesus Christ who is a mere man according to you able to indwell a person? Of course your unaware of John 14:23 where it says, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, He will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and WE shall come to him, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM."
Tell me something dagallen, can the Apostle Paul who is a mere man just like you believe Jesus is a mere man make his abode in you? Can any of the Apostles or any mere man make their abode in you? Of course not, so how do you explain that Jesus Christ can do it?
And the other thing you don't understand is the why Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God. Afterall, you just said Jesus is the Son of God but that does not make Him God. Your unaware of the many Jewish idioms and one of their idioms is "the son of." What do you think that means? In fact google Jewish idioms and look it up for yourself. Don't be so lazy and slothful which is a sin by the way and do your own homework for a change. It is not necessary for everybody that disagrees with you to have to "spoon feed" you information when you can look things up on your own and learn something.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
First of all I don't believe belief in the Trinity is a requirement for salvation. Does that surprise you, it should. The belief that the Trinity is true is the "RESULT" of salvation. Why do I know this? Because one CANNOT know Jesus Christ and somehow miss the fact that He is God. You cannot have experienced the presense of the Holy Spirit of God and somehow miss that He is God. This backed up by Romans 8:9-11.
"However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if inded the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. vs10, And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the apirit is alive because of righteousness. vs11, But if the Spirit of Him/God the Father who rasied Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies, through His Spirit who indwells you."
Since you don't believe Jesus is God how is it possible for the Spirit of Jesus Christ who is a mere man according to you able to indwell a person? Of course your unaware of John 14:23 where it says, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, He will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and WE shall come to him, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM."
Tell me something dagallen, can the Apostle Paul who is a mere man just like you believe Jesus is a mere man make his abode in you? Can any of the Apostles or any mere man make their abode in you? Of course not, so how do you explain that Jesus Christ can do it?
And the other thing you don't understand is the why Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God. Afterall, you just said Jesus is the Son of God but that does not make Him God. Your unaware of the many Jewish idioms and one of their idioms is "the son of." What do you think that means? In fact google Jewish idioms and look it up for yourself. Don't be so lazy and slothful which is a sin by the way and do your own homework for a change. It is not necessary for everybody that disagrees with you to have to "spoon feed" you information when you can look things up on your own and learn something.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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Scriptures do matter, just as who wrote them matters, why ? Because scriptures affect the lives of many. Just as some believe that every word in the bible, every word is the inspired words of God, does it matter ? Yes ! Because it affects many. There are many bibles, each my teach some things the same way but each also teaches something that other don't teach, so what Bible is correct ?
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Well dagallen, why is it you never quote any scriptures to prove your uninformed opionion on issues? All you do is just make "pronouncements" and discard Biblical proof by just saying it's not true. Even here I'll show you how clueless you are since you said, "Show me where scriptures says, you have to believe in a trinity concept in order to be saved?"
First of all I don't believe belief in the Trinity is a requirement for salvation. Does that surprise you, it should. The belief that the Trinity is true is the "RESULT" of salvation. Why do I know this? Because one CANNOT know Jesus Christ and somehow miss the fact that He is God. You cannot have experienced the presense of the Holy Spirit of God and somehow miss that He is God. This backed up by Romans 8:9-11.
"However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if inded the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. vs10, And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the apirit is alive because of righteousness. vs11, But if the Spirit of Him/God the Father who rasied Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies, through His Spirit who indwells you."
Since you don't believe Jesus is God how is it possible for the Spirit of Jesus Christ who is a mere man according to you able to indwell a person? Of course your unaware of John 14:23 where it says, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, He will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and WE shall come to him, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM."
Tell me something dagallen, can the Apostle Paul who is a mere man just like you believe Jesus is a mere man make his abode in you? Can any of the Apostles or any mere man make their abode in you? Of course not, so how do you explain that Jesus Christ can do it?
And the other thing you don't understand is the why Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God. Afterall, you just said Jesus is the Son of God but that does not make Him God. Your unaware of the many Jewish idioms and one of their idioms is "the son of." What do you think that means? In fact google Jewish idioms and look it up for yourself. Don't be so lazy and slothful which is a sin by the way and do your own homework for a change. It is not necessary for everybody that disagrees with you to have to "spoon feed" you information when you can look things up on your own and learn something.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
First of all I don't believe belief in the Trinity is a requirement for salvation. Does that surprise you, it should. The belief that the Trinity is true is the "RESULT" of salvation. Why do I know this? Because one CANNOT know Jesus Christ and somehow miss the fact that He is God. You cannot have experienced the presense of the Holy Spirit of God and somehow miss that He is God. This backed up by Romans 8:9-11.
"However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if inded the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. vs10, And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the apirit is alive because of righteousness. vs11, But if the Spirit of Him/God the Father who rasied Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies, through His Spirit who indwells you."
Since you don't believe Jesus is God how is it possible for the Spirit of Jesus Christ who is a mere man according to you able to indwell a person? Of course your unaware of John 14:23 where it says, "Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, He will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and WE shall come to him, AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM."
Tell me something dagallen, can the Apostle Paul who is a mere man just like you believe Jesus is a mere man make his abode in you? Can any of the Apostles or any mere man make their abode in you? Of course not, so how do you explain that Jesus Christ can do it?
And the other thing you don't understand is the why Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God. Afterall, you just said Jesus is the Son of God but that does not make Him God. Your unaware of the many Jewish idioms and one of their idioms is "the son of." What do you think that means? In fact google Jewish idioms and look it up for yourself. Don't be so lazy and slothful which is a sin by the way and do your own homework for a change. It is not necessary for everybody that disagrees with you to have to "spoon feed" you information when you can look things up on your own and learn something.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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how sad for one to not have"understanding" of that tis not the question of what "bible" is true,but rather whom speaks "TRUTH" from God's word for the bible is not all of God's word,for it is written"in the beginning was the word and the word was God",understand that is not the text you read that is most important but rather what is "True" and God's word is the "Living Word" so if the scriptures are but "writings" to you and not"God's wisdom" then ye have not but "words" in place of God's word,for just as the spirit dwells in us when we accept Jesus as saviour,the statutes and commandments there in of God's word are to be written upon our hearts,tis not "knowledge" that one lacks when one reads God's word,but rather "faith" and "willingness to learn" that one lacks,for any individual can make boasts of their own "knowledge" and yet lack "understanding" of God's word,for they hath not opened their heart unto God so how can they know his word?
One must first receive "understanding" "before" trying to "teach" his word much less,make a valid argument,for if one only speaks of what they have "read" and used their own "knowledge" to discern God's word then they know not God and therefore know not his word,much less understand the "texts" that are given to us from his "inspired" word,of a truth man has written many "texts" concerning God's word,but God's word just like God hath not changed and is always "Truthful".
One must first receive "understanding" "before" trying to "teach" his word much less,make a valid argument,for if one only speaks of what they have "read" and used their own "knowledge" to discern God's word then they know not God and therefore know not his word,much less understand the "texts" that are given to us from his "inspired" word,of a truth man has written many "texts" concerning God's word,but God's word just like God hath not changed and is always "Truthful".
He was greater in position for the Son had emptied Himself and become man. This was the choice of the Godhead. He was not greater in Being.
You do not understand the Triune God. Father. Son and Holy Spirit are one God in Threeness.
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The Son was equal with the Father, but He had forfeited the position to become man in Jesus.(Jon 17.5)
He would be subject to the Godhead,
Why? The Godhead (Of Whom the Son was one) sent the Son.
See above.
You do not understand the Triune God. Father. Son and Holy Spirit are one God in Threeness.
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The Son was equal with the Father, but He had forfeited the position to become man in Jesus.(Jon 17.5)
He would be subject to the Godhead,
Why? The Godhead (Of Whom the Son was one) sent the Son.
See above.
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I am not surprised at your your responses at all, you say things that are not written in scriptures, why is that ? Because Roman Catholic traditions of the Roman Catholic church is greater than scriptures, to the Roman Catholic church, because you live by your traditions, the word God is of no affect. Why don't you try reading the scriptures as written and stop adding your own intertation or the intertation that the Roman Catholis give, think outside the box and be set free.
J
Ye must first understand what meaneth"Greater""Greater" when used by Jesus is speaking of how that as the manifestation(form) of God that he is of a "Greater" referring to as I stated before that in God's full original Glory one would die merely by looking upon his face,where as since God is made flesh as the manifestation(form) of Jesus,he is not as "Great"but he is just as "powerful",there in lies your answer to your first question,as to the rest of your question,of Jesus not being sent or God just coming as you put it,God would not have put his children in danger coming to them in his full Glory,for they would die if they looked upon him,also there was the issue of sin that he sought to cleanse the world of sin for it had so much sin that God determined that he determined that he would be born as a man,and die for "man's" sins,so when it is spoken"sent" it means that God sent himself as the holy spirit becoming man in flesh but still having his "power" and of a "Truth" in the physical sense dieing for us,as well as even of all things,resurrecting in 3 days and taking the very "keys" of hell from Satan before resurrecting,so seeing as that hell is a place of punishment for "angels"'such as Lucifer/Satan how then did Jesus not only come out from hell,resurrect,and take the "keys" of hell from Satan?
because he was and is God,undoubtedly.
because he was and is God,undoubtedly.
The wolves are out tonight..
Dagallen, Didn’t I hear someone suggest they believe in a mere human possessing another human. That is nonsense even if used as an analogy.
That same person even quoted John 14:23 and does not understand it…
(Joh 14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (KJV)
Now this is how Jesus is in us. Not by Jesus spirit alone, it is the common spirit of Truth given to both Jesus and us that joins us together sourced from the spirit of God almighty, our Father. Jesus is not in us by his own spirit or identity, independent of God, as many believe. That is nonsense. Jesus is in God,as we are in Christ...
Good job brother!
Dagallen, Didn’t I hear someone suggest they believe in a mere human possessing another human. That is nonsense even if used as an analogy.
That same person even quoted John 14:23 and does not understand it…
(Joh 14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (KJV)
Now this is how Jesus is in us. Not by Jesus spirit alone, it is the common spirit of Truth given to both Jesus and us that joins us together sourced from the spirit of God almighty, our Father. Jesus is not in us by his own spirit or identity, independent of God, as many believe. That is nonsense. Jesus is in God,as we are in Christ...
Good job brother!
You know dagallen, this comment of yours I think is even below you when you said the following to valiant. "Because Roman Catholic traditions of the Roman Catholic church is greater than scriptures, to the Roman Catholic church, because you live by your traditions, the word God is of no affect. Why don't you try reading the scriptures as written and stop adding your own intertation or the intertation that the Roman Catholis give, think outside the box and be set free."
Were not responsible for what the Roman Catholic church believes or don't believe. And I don't live by any traditions but by what the Bible says. And you have the "huevos" to tell valiant that he needs to read the scriptures? You just quoted John 14:24 and 14:28 where Jesus said He was sent and He said the Father is greater than Him.
First of all of course Jesus Christ was sent by His Father. All you have to do is read John 3:13, John 6:38, John 6:42, John 6:33 or even Ephesians 4:10 where it is written that Jesus Christ came down from heaven. In order for Him to come down from heaven He had to preexist. In fact in the Old Testament at Isaiah 9:6 it says, "For a child will be born to us, A SON WILL BE GIVEN." In other words, He/Jesus was a Son BEFORE He was given and before He was born. Not only that but here is what Luke 2:11 states, "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD."
Now, to deal with why the Father is greater than all including Jesus Christ. This is clearly and easily explained at Philippians 2:6-8. The Son had voluntarily taken upon himself the form of a servant and the likeness of a man and submitted himself to the Father. In that form thereby foregoing His innate divinity and the powers associated with that divinity. As a man who was submitted to the Father, he had to receive authority for al that he did.
As a man, Jesus did not get special things that weren't already his before his incarnation as a man. he is the God who created the universe, therefore automatically had all the authority over it from the beginning. That this authority was returned to him after his purpsoe in the world was accomplished is also evident. If you notice at Philippians 2:6 it starts out by saying, "who, ALTHOUGH (although means in spite of the fact) He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
So the bottom line is that Jesus Christ was in one form/God and then took another form of that of a servant or human being. This is why vs 8 says, "And being found in the APPEARANCE AS A MAN, humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
So when you hear questions like, "If Jesus is God how come He did not know the time of His own return?" Or like you said, "If Jesus is God how come He said the Father is greater than Him?" No matter what excuse one can come up with the answer is always the same, Jesus functioned as a 100% contingent human being. This means He always depended completely on His Father and this is also what we are suppose to be doing. Once you understand this all the excuses evaporate. And btw, Jesus Christ is the only visible manifestation of God, (John 1:18) there is no other because in order to be equal with God you would have to be God yourself. Now, what does not make sense to you dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Were not responsible for what the Roman Catholic church believes or don't believe. And I don't live by any traditions but by what the Bible says. And you have the "huevos" to tell valiant that he needs to read the scriptures? You just quoted John 14:24 and 14:28 where Jesus said He was sent and He said the Father is greater than Him.
First of all of course Jesus Christ was sent by His Father. All you have to do is read John 3:13, John 6:38, John 6:42, John 6:33 or even Ephesians 4:10 where it is written that Jesus Christ came down from heaven. In order for Him to come down from heaven He had to preexist. In fact in the Old Testament at Isaiah 9:6 it says, "For a child will be born to us, A SON WILL BE GIVEN." In other words, He/Jesus was a Son BEFORE He was given and before He was born. Not only that but here is what Luke 2:11 states, "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD."
Now, to deal with why the Father is greater than all including Jesus Christ. This is clearly and easily explained at Philippians 2:6-8. The Son had voluntarily taken upon himself the form of a servant and the likeness of a man and submitted himself to the Father. In that form thereby foregoing His innate divinity and the powers associated with that divinity. As a man who was submitted to the Father, he had to receive authority for al that he did.
As a man, Jesus did not get special things that weren't already his before his incarnation as a man. he is the God who created the universe, therefore automatically had all the authority over it from the beginning. That this authority was returned to him after his purpsoe in the world was accomplished is also evident. If you notice at Philippians 2:6 it starts out by saying, "who, ALTHOUGH (although means in spite of the fact) He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
So the bottom line is that Jesus Christ was in one form/God and then took another form of that of a servant or human being. This is why vs 8 says, "And being found in the APPEARANCE AS A MAN, humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
So when you hear questions like, "If Jesus is God how come He did not know the time of His own return?" Or like you said, "If Jesus is God how come He said the Father is greater than Him?" No matter what excuse one can come up with the answer is always the same, Jesus functioned as a 100% contingent human being. This means He always depended completely on His Father and this is also what we are suppose to be doing. Once you understand this all the excuses evaporate. And btw, Jesus Christ is the only visible manifestation of God, (John 1:18) there is no other because in order to be equal with God you would have to be God yourself. Now, what does not make sense to you dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
This would only be possible if both Father and Son were God.
By indwelling, because He is God,
He said that HE would come to dwell within us, along with the Father. Only God could be so omnipresent.
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He is in us by His own Spirit. Otherwise HE would not be in us. He is God, as is the Father.
That is nonsense. The Son IS God. Jesus was the humanity which the Son took when He became man. You clearly do not understand the Scripture.
By indwelling, because He is God,
He said that HE would come to dwell within us, along with the Father. Only God could be so omnipresent.
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He is in us by His own Spirit. Otherwise HE would not be in us. He is God, as is the Father.
That is nonsense. The Son IS God. Jesus was the humanity which the Son took when He became man. You clearly do not understand the Scripture.
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You know dagallen, this comment of yours I think is even below you when you said the following to valiant. "Because Roman Catholic traditions of the Roman Catholic church is greater than scriptures, to the Roman Catholic church, because you live by your traditions, the word God is of no affect. Why don't you try reading the scriptures as written and stop adding your own intertation or the intertation that the Roman Catholis give, think outside the box and be set free."
Were not responsible for what the Roman Catholic church believes or don't believe. And I don't live by any traditions but by what the Bible says. And you have the "huevos" to tell valiant that he needs to read the scriptures? You just quoted John 14:24 and 14:28 where Jesus said He was sent and He said the Father is greater than Him.
First of all of course Jesus Christ was sent by His Father. All you have to do is read John 3:13, John 6:38, John 6:42, John 6:33 or even Ephesians 4:10 where it is written that Jesus Christ came down from heaven. In order for Him to come down from heaven He had to preexist. In fact in the Old Testament at Isaiah 9:6 it says, "For a child will be born to us, A SON WILL BE GIVEN." In other words, He/Jesus was a Son BEFORE He was given and before He was born. Not only that but here is what Luke 2:11 states, "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD."
Now, to deal with why the Father is greater than all including Jesus Christ. This is clearly and easily explained at Philippians 2:6-8. The Son had voluntarily taken upon himself the form of a servant and the likeness of a man and submitted himself to the Father. In that form thereby foregoing His innate divinity and the powers associated with that divinity. As a man who was submitted to the Father, he had to receive authority for al that he did.
As a man, Jesus did not get special things that weren't already his before his incarnation as a man. he is the God who created the universe, therefore automatically had all the authority over it from the beginning. That this authority was returned to him after his purpsoe in the world was accomplished is also evident. If you notice at Philippians 2:6 it starts out by saying, "who, ALTHOUGH (although means in spite of the fact) He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
So the bottom line is that Jesus Christ was in one form/God and then took another form of that of a servant or human being. This is why vs 8 says, "And being found in the APPEARANCE AS A MAN, humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
So when you hear questions like, "If Jesus is God how come He did not know the time of His own return?" Or like you said, "If Jesus is God how come He said the Father is greater than Him?" No matter what excuse one can come up with the answer is always the same, Jesus functioned as a 100% contingent human being. This means He always depended completely on His Father and this is also what we are suppose to be doing. Once you understand this all the excuses evaporate. And btw, Jesus Christ is the only visible manifestation of God, (John 1:18) there is no other because in order to be equal with God you would have to be God yourself. Now, what does not make sense to you dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Were not responsible for what the Roman Catholic church believes or don't believe. And I don't live by any traditions but by what the Bible says. And you have the "huevos" to tell valiant that he needs to read the scriptures? You just quoted John 14:24 and 14:28 where Jesus said He was sent and He said the Father is greater than Him.
First of all of course Jesus Christ was sent by His Father. All you have to do is read John 3:13, John 6:38, John 6:42, John 6:33 or even Ephesians 4:10 where it is written that Jesus Christ came down from heaven. In order for Him to come down from heaven He had to preexist. In fact in the Old Testament at Isaiah 9:6 it says, "For a child will be born to us, A SON WILL BE GIVEN." In other words, He/Jesus was a Son BEFORE He was given and before He was born. Not only that but here is what Luke 2:11 states, "for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD."
Now, to deal with why the Father is greater than all including Jesus Christ. This is clearly and easily explained at Philippians 2:6-8. The Son had voluntarily taken upon himself the form of a servant and the likeness of a man and submitted himself to the Father. In that form thereby foregoing His innate divinity and the powers associated with that divinity. As a man who was submitted to the Father, he had to receive authority for al that he did.
As a man, Jesus did not get special things that weren't already his before his incarnation as a man. he is the God who created the universe, therefore automatically had all the authority over it from the beginning. That this authority was returned to him after his purpsoe in the world was accomplished is also evident. If you notice at Philippians 2:6 it starts out by saying, "who, ALTHOUGH (although means in spite of the fact) He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped.
So the bottom line is that Jesus Christ was in one form/God and then took another form of that of a servant or human being. This is why vs 8 says, "And being found in the APPEARANCE AS A MAN, humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross."
So when you hear questions like, "If Jesus is God how come He did not know the time of His own return?" Or like you said, "If Jesus is God how come He said the Father is greater than Him?" No matter what excuse one can come up with the answer is always the same, Jesus functioned as a 100% contingent human being. This means He always depended completely on His Father and this is also what we are suppose to be doing. Once you understand this all the excuses evaporate. And btw, Jesus Christ is the only visible manifestation of God, (John 1:18) there is no other because in order to be equal with God you would have to be God yourself. Now, what does not make sense to you dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
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