The Trinity

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JacobMartinMertens

JacobMartinMertens

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posthuman said:
i did not.

the only real question i have is why is a man who admits he doesn't understand the text of scripture having an argument that was already settled 2,000 years ago with people who he refuses to listen to?
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I accept the Bible. So, if you want to show me the Trinity doctrine do it from scripture or without scripture. Just know what you are doing and I will respond accordingly.
 
ewq1938

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My signature proves Jesus is God, and that is the biggest part of proving the Trinity.
 
CS1

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Incorrect.

I don't deal with everyone fairly, but WE HAVE been discussing scripture. I have yet to see anyone share what the trinity is from scripture. That is a different question than not finding the word trinity in the Bible. I shared the verses that I think support the Trinity. Do you remember reading them? Do you disagree with them?
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Again, you are not listening.
The word "Trinty" is not in the Bible, the word is a Theological Concept.

Yes, I read the verses, and after each of them, you said, "Let us consider."

You also said after the posting of verses.

"I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and not God the Son." #18


That is an oxymoron statement.
 
ewq1938

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Revelation 21:7 NASB20 - "The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.

Who is this individual or person or being?
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I already made that clear in my previous post.
 
JacobMartinMertens

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CS1 said:
Again, you are not listening.
The word "Trinty" is not in the Bible, the word is a Theological Concept.

Yes, I read the verses, and after each of them, you said, "Let us consider."

You also said after the posting of verses.

"I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and not God the Son." #18


That is an oxymoron statement.
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No it is not. Consider the definition or usage of the word of. It is not equality, but multiplication and container speak. The Son of God is found in God but the Son of God is not God. You are the son of your father, you are not your father.
 
CS1

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JacobMartinMertens said:
Revelation 21:7 NASB20 - "The one who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son.

Who is this individual or person or being?
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That is not referring to Jesus in Rev 21:7


You need to stop trying to use translations out of context. Most versions say Children, not "my Son."
 
posthuman

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JacobMartinMertens said:
I am asking who is on the throne and what verse would tell us
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Revelation 22:3​
And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of The Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.​

throne is singular.
God is God.
The Lamb is God.
God is One.
 
posthuman

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posthuman said:
Revelation 22:3​
And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of The Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.​

throne is singular.
God is God.
The Lamb is God.
God is One.
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but @JacobMartinMertens will you believe it or will you look for another way to deny it?
 
JacobMartinMertens

JacobMartinMertens

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posthuman said:
Revelation 22:3​
And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of God and of The Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him.​

throne is singular.
God is God.
The Lamb is God.
God is One.
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No. Throne is singular. God has a throne and Jesus has a throne. God is God. The lamb is not God the lamb is Jesus. God is one. Yes?
 
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JacobMartinMertens said:
No it is not. Consider the definition or usage of the word of. It is not equality, but multiplication and container speak. The Son of God is found in God but the Son of God is not God. You are the son of your father, you are not your father.
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That is not true He is There in John chapter one With God, and In GOD Jesus said me and my Father are one
Greek is FACE to FACE


Jesus is the ONLY "Begotten," not one of many kinds. If the Son is from the Father HE is the same as the Father and Jesus testified that he is God by the very works that HE did. Only God can forgive sins Jesus did that.

Luke 7:48
Matthew 9:1-8


Jesus Knew all things Only God knows all John 16:30
The Son of God receives worship, from men and angels That was not allowed even John was admonished for bowing down to an angel.

Jesus is God and God is Jesus as His the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God and YET One. You can not fully understand the Godhead and to speak profanely of Christ and the Divine Nature of God one should be very mindful and approach the Eternal Godhead with more reverence and humility.
 
JacobMartinMertens

JacobMartinMertens

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CS1 said:
That is not true He is There in John chapter one With God, and In GOD Jesus said me and my Father are one
Greek is FACE to FACE


Jesus is the ONLY "Begotten," not one of many kinds. If the Son is from the Father HE is the same as the Father and Jesus testified that he is God by the very works that HE did. Only God can forgive sins Jesus did that.

Luke 7:48
Matthew 9:1-8


Jesus Knew all things Only God knows all John 16:30
The Son of God receives worship, from men and angels That was not allowed even John was admonished for bowing down to an angel.

Jesus is God and God is Jesus as His the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God and YET One. You can not fully understand the Godhead and to speak profanely of Christ and the Divine Nature of God one should be very mindful and approach the Eternal Godhead with more reverence and humility.
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Jesus the Son of God is not the same as God who is His Father. I don't have a problem worshipping Jesus. Remember, He is the King from His birth. He is God's Anointed. I don't acknowledge a Godhead, but I don't know where people get their idea of it.
 
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