THE TRUTH ABOUT TATTOOS

[Dino246]

Thanks, Roughsoul. You told me about the prophets of Baal. That they cut themselves. Obviously they must have mutilated their flesh earlier with some crazy tattoos. Having practised self-mutilation earlier (with tattoos and piercings), they must have indulged in an orgy of blood-letting on Mt Carmel, but all to no avail.

You are making completely unwarranted assumptions in a vain attempt to justify your position.

 

[CharishHaroon]

I hear what you’re saying, and think sinless perfectionism is very bad, and maybe the book is preaching that, but I don’t see it in the section you quoted.
The passage reminds me a little bit like this verse:
2 Corinthians 10:5
New International Version
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

PennEd, when somebody spreads lies, do you believe them straightaway? Read Prov 17.4. "A wicked person listens to deceitful lips, and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue." Don't give heed to deceitful lips and mischevious tongues; if you do so, then the Bible says you are a 'wicked person' and a 'liar' yourself.

You are a fair man. The book that these 'lying lips' are talking about is a very simple book, very clear, and is a classic by itself in the evangelical world. It is 100% Biblical and Christian! It's titled 'God's Dwelling Place', a study on the Tabernacle. Even a school-going kid, 8th grade and upwards can understand it! It can be read in a couple of sittings.

Here is the book. If you want to talk to me in private, please do so! Then you will know the enormity of the falsehoods being propagated by certain vested interests.

 

[CharishHaroon]

Thanks, Moses Young, you did read the article, Tattoos and Demon Possession.

So glad that there is at least one man who understands!

Blessings to you!

 

[Moses_Young]

How could a follower of Yahweh get a tattoo of the invisible God, whose name was too holy to repeat in vain let alone etch it on your dying body. Instead their “tattoo” was a circumcised penis. Paul rebuked the enforcers of circumcision to the Greeks because it was putting new wine in old wine skins. Regardless, we are not under that Law. God is no longer invisible. It’s not what we engrave upon our skin but upon our hearts. That being said, what we choose to engrave on our skin is an expression of our hearts so we should be wise when deciding whether to get a tattoo.

I agree with this. If physical circumcision has a spiritual meaning (and it does), so do tattoos have a (pagan) spiritual meaning/component. What need does a Christian have of such pagan symbols? Our bodies belong to Christ, and we should not vandalise them.

 

[PennEd]

PennEd, when somebody spreads lies, do you believe them straightaway? Read Prov 17.4. "A wicked person listens to deceitful lips, and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue." Don't give heed to deceitful lips and mischevious tongues; if you do so, then the Bible says you are a 'wicked person' and a 'liar' yourself.

You are a fair man. The book that these 'lying lips' are talking about is a very simple book, very clear, and is a classic by itself in the evangelical world. It is 100% Biblical and Christian! It's titled 'God's Dwelling Place', a study on the Tabernacle. Even a school-going kid, 8th grade and upwards can understand it! It can be read in a couple of sittings.

Here is the book. If you want to talk to me in private, please do so! Then you will know the enormity of the falsehoods being propagated by certain vested interests.

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This book may be good it may be bad, but I’m not sure what it has to do with the “vaccine”, and all the lies that are being exposed.

Have you not seen that we, who for over a year, have been saying the plandemic is a man made disaster, from wicked men, have been completely right as borne out by the exposure of lies from Anthony Fauci in the past few days?

So why does anyone still believe the lies they are creepily pushing about the vaccine?

 

[PennEd]

PennEd, when somebody spreads lies, do you believe them straightaway? Read Prov 17.4. "A wicked person listens to deceitful lips, and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue." Don't give heed to deceitful lips and mischevious tongues; if you do so, then the Bible says you are a 'wicked person' and a 'liar' yourself.

You are a fair man. The book that these 'lying lips' are talking about is a very simple book, very clear, and is a classic by itself in the evangelical world. It is 100% Biblical and Christian! It's titled 'God's Dwelling Place', a study on the Tabernacle. Even a school-going kid, 8th grade and upwards can understand it! It can be read in a couple of sittings.

Here is the book. If you want to talk to me in private, please do so! Then you will know the enormity of the falsehoods being propagated by certain vested interests.

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So sorry. I confused you with the guy “ hollerin from the choir loft”

Wrong thread. I apologize.

 

[Gideon300]

This is my view about tattoos. There is no such thing as Christian tattoos. The Bible declares that all tattoos are of the devil!

This is what I wrote 10 years ago, and I still stand by it! So please read! (May God enlighten your eyes!)

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"The present article is more comprehensive, and should enlighten the open-minded reader about the ‘dark truths’ behind tattoos.

Historical Aspect

'History shows that tattoos have always been associated with paganism, shamanism, heathen (Baal worship), occult mysticism and demonism. The tattoo has never been associated with Christians, until the present decadent religious times. Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit.

'Tattoos where associated with shamans or magic-men (witch-doctors). A shaman is an intermediary between the natural and the supernatural worlds, who is in direct contact with spirits who are invariably evil. Tattooing was often a magical rite, linked to scarification and blood-letting, and the tattooing process involved complex rituals and taboos, known only to the shaman and his tribe. In tattooing the skin is punctured and the blood is drawn. Licking the blood during tattoo operations is not unknown. The puncturing was considered the ‘opening of inlets for evil to enter’. Tattoos were therefore channels for demonic possession. Even today, certain tattoo artists burn incense and light candles during tattoo operations, while others allow ‘demons to guide the tattoo needle over the client’s body’.

'Tattoos have always reflected a note of unabashed rebellion and marked deviancy. Hence tattoos were used to mark criminals, adulterers, traitors, deserters, the deviant and the outcast. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans did not tattoo themselves, but they branded slaves and criminals with tattoos. The Latin word for ‘tattoo’ is ‘stigma’ – which is a distinguishing mark cut into the flesh of a slave or a criminal, and was considered a mark of disgrace or reproach. By the early 1900s public opinion against tattoos was so strong that tattooed persons were considered freaks and found mostly in sideshows and circuses.

The Psychological Aspect

'It has been observed that criminals, drug addicts, sex perverts and social outlaws are the overwhelming majority of the tattooed. Hard rock bands sport sick and lewd tattoos. Gangs encourage tattoos to instill a sense of ‘belonging’. Tattoos carry a streak of aggression and anti-establishmentarianism and are subversive of morality. Death (inclusive of skulls, snakes, demons, flames) and pornography (lewd pictures, nude figures) are popular themes of tattoos. Psychologists have considered tattoos to be marks of personality disorder which is manifested later in criminal behavior. Low self-esteem, lack of self-control, sadomasochism, bondage, fetishism, bisexuality, antisocial personality, mania and bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia – are reflected in self-inflicted multiple tattoos. Studies have linked tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism and gross sexual perversion.

Tattooed youth are more likely to engage in sexual intercourse, take to alcohol and drugs, and exhibit violent behavior, and drop out of high school – by as much as 4 times compared to non-tattooed youth.

The Christian Aspect

'Carnal Christians side-step the injuction in Leviticus 19;28 by arguing that the commandment is for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians. Does that mean that bestiality and child sacrifice which are forbidden in Leviticus are for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians? The New Testament does not have to spell out all sins. Smoking, for instance, is not mentioned in the Bible anywhere; but does it mean that smoking is not a vice or sin?

'Reputed Bible scholars and commentators have made in clear that the moral commandments in Leviticus are for all time and not just for Israel in the Old Testament age. Leviticus 19:28 says, ‘You shall not make any cutting in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you. I am the LORD.’ On this Matthew Henry, Merrill Unger and Jamieson, Fausset and Brown have made it amply clear that tattoos are forbidden by God. It is to be noted that while ‘cuttings’ are qualified by the phrase ‘for the dead’, ‘marks’ (or tattoos) have no such qualification. Which means that all tattoos (Christian and otherwise) are evil in God’s eyes.

'One of the arguments made by carnal Christians is that Lev 19.27 forbids haircuts. What Leviticus 19.27 is talking about is ‘rounding the corners of your head’ and ‘marring the corners of your beard’. These were heathen practices. One such practice was to cut the hair so that the head resembled a celestial globe. It is called a ‘tonsure’, a practice of heathens to honor their gods. The cutting of the flesh was demonstrated by the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel. It is not to be forgotten that the demon-possessed man in Mark 5 was in the habit of cutting himself with stones. Cutting and masochistic self-flagellation is also practiced by Muslims during their festival of Muharram. In short, the injunctions in Lev 19:26-28 are a strong condemnation of heathen practices – witchcraft, astrology, cutting, tattooing, tonsures, etc.

'In 1 Samuel 15:23 we are told that ‘rebellion is like the sin of witchcraft’. Tattoos sported by today’s youth have been the mark of rebellion and hatred of authority (besides, rejection of all moral values). In God’s eyes, the sin of tattooing is like witch-craft. We have already seen the origins of tattoos in witch-craft and shamanism. It remains to be researched whether this ‘witch-craft’ has also led to widespread demon-possession. No, tattoos are not ‘body decoration’; they have nothing to do with fashion and beauty; but rather they are sinister signs of moral decay and infiltration by evil spirits into modern society.'


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Man looks at the outward appearance, God looks at the heart. I know people with tattoos who are far more gracious and loving than the self righteous prats who look down on them. Lord Jesus did not come to condemn the world, or did you miss that bit?

The reason why society is decaying is simple. Christians for decades have abdicated their responsibility to be salt and light. The church has all the authority and power of Lord Jesus Himself. You would not know it if you did not read it in God's word.

Judgement begins with the house of God. If you want to know why the USA especially is crumbling as China rises, go look in the mirror. Then learn Mandarin. It will come in handy when China takes over.

 

[Gideon300]

JamueJ,
I expected you to comment a little more elaborately on the subject. I guess you went through that research paper a little hurriedly. Do read it carefully...and prayerfully. Nothing in the Word about tattoos being of the devil? So what do you think about this factual statement? The injunctions in Lev 19:26-28 are a strong condemnation of heathen practices – witchcraft, astrology, cutting, tattooing, tonsures, etc.

Do you think heathen practices (which are of the devil) can be condoned?

Plastic surgery for reasons of vanity? Wow, you have a fertile imagination!

I suggest that you read the Sermon on the mount again. Something about not being judgemental.

 

[Absolutely]

Cue foghorn leghorn voice

" I say...I say... The boy reminds me of a tatoo.....kinda gets under yo skiyn...."

 

[soberxp]

Cue foghorn leghorn voice

" I say...I say... The boy reminds me of a tatoo.....kinda gets under yo skiyn...."

ah,I just can't get your point.
under my skin?
a tatoo under my skin........
The devil of antiChrist.......

 

[ResidentAlien]

I'm sure Satan has his hand in it.

People get tattoos for any number of reasons, but I believe it's mostly vanity. They want to draw attention to there outward appearance.

"Christian" tattoos are no different than Christian clothing. I see people all the time in clothing displaying so-called Christian messages. This no more makes them a Christian than wearing a t-shirt that says "e=mc²" makes them a genius.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I agree with this. If physical circumcision has a spiritual meaning (and it does), so do tattoos have a (pagan) spiritual meaning/component. What need does a Christian have of such pagan symbols? Our bodies belong to Christ, and we should not vandalise them.

So now we as gentiles must be circumcised without a choice? Gentiles are not bound to the same laws of the Mosaic law. They were ceremonial or laws to regulate a theocracy. To help set aside God's people from the gentiles. But now His yoke is easy, and His burden is light.

 

[soberxp]

I think God don't want us that have a tattoo, because he don't want us that looks like Mafia, when other people look at The tattoo thinking about good and evil.

thinking about good and evil May cause death

 

[Blik]

My understanding of th elessons of the law is very limited but some I do understand. I refer to those laws which seem a bit on the uinimportant side, like not using to types of cloth.
I thought this until I learned from Jesus-Yeshua that our apparel is what we have done as works in our life, the good works is clean and whit shiniing while any works of this world are filthy garments..
Yes the law teaches us Love and points directly to our Savior when the eyes of our heart are opened.

I think we are to learn from all the physical commands that were given to the Hebrews before the new covenant of putting the law into our hearts. All those commands were from our Holy G
od, and I don't think we can discard them as if they were not given by God. We are to look for the spirit of the law that was in those commands. The spirit of the law not to mix fabrics was to not mix worship of God with anything relating to worship of idols.

Those commands were given to people who needed to be trained to obey the ways of the Lord. Every believer was not given the Holy Spirit ,as happened after Christ, to guide them. Instead of telling them to mark their hearts as belonging to God, for example, they were told to mark it on their foreskin. We don't cut flesh any more to mark ourselves as belonging to the Lord, but we mark it in our hearts. All these physical commands are to be obeyed in the spirit of the law.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I think we are to learn from all the physical commands that were given to the Hebrews before the new covenant of putting the law into our hearts. All those commands were from our Holy G
od, and I don't think we can discard them as if they were not given by God. We are to look for the spirit of the law that was in those commands. The spirit of the law not to mix fabrics was to not mix worship of God with anything relating to worship of idols.

Those commands were given to people who needed to be trained to obey the ways of the Lord. Every believer was not given the Holy Spirit ,as happened after Christ, to guide them. Instead of telling them to mark their hearts as belonging to God, for example, they were told to mark it on their foreskin. We don't cut flesh any more to mark ourselves as belonging to the Lord, but we mark it in our hearts. All these physical commands are to be obeyed in the spirit of the law.

Yes just as the dietary food requirements are now not the same but carry a deeper meaning.

1 Timothy 4:3-4
They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,

Everything God created was good but if we abuse it only then can it become bad or evil.

 

[Moses_Young]

So now we as gentiles must be circumcised without a choice? Gentiles are not bound to the same laws of the Mosaic law. They were ceremonial or laws to regulate a theocracy. To help set aside God's people from the gentiles. But now His yoke is easy, and His burden is light.

What does God say? If God says that circumcision is no longer necessary for believers, despite its positive spiritual meaning, how much more unnecessary is the pagan practice of tattooing one's body, with the negative spiritual meanings?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

What does God say? If God says that circumcision is no longer necessary for believers, despite its positive spiritual meaning, how much more unnecessary is the pagan practice of tattooing one's body, with the negative spiritual meanings?

Unnecessary sure I'll meet you there. Unnecessary does not imply immoral, moral, or amoral. It simply leaves it to conscience.

 

[Blik]

I see it differently. I see many as quite artistic. I don’t care for the skull ones or the scary ones. It’s art too but not my cup of tea.

It isn't the artwork we are speaking of, I am an artist as the painting of the rose you see tells you. But art should not use skin for a canvass. It is in very poor taste.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

2 threads about tattoos

Nothing to worry about.
There won't be any old tattoos at the resurrection. We'll get new ones.


Rev 3
12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

Rev 14:1
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

Rev 22:4
4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads

 

[Blik]

2 threads about tattoos

Nothing to worry about.
There won't be any old tattoos at the resurrection. We'll get new ones.


Rev 3
12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

Rev 14:1
Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

Rev 22:4
4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads

I agree, it is nothing to make into a great big issue. It IS something to think about if we consider our life as God's, not our own. It is not an issue for judging others, it is an issue for those dedicated to living for the Lord.