The unity of the faith...

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KelbyofGod

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Some questions for your consideration....

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV) says "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

Have you considered what "the unity of the faith" actually IS? (It is a reflective question.)

The verses prior to it tell us things God has given us to help us get to this state, but do you know what it will look like? or How we will know when it is reached?

On the other hand, do you think we've already reached it? If so, when, and what made you think we've all come into this unity? What were the markers that let you know "we" had arrived?

And who is this "we all" that is mentioned as needing to be in this unity?


Awaiting your replies with love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

stonesoffire

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#2
Some questions for your consideration....

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV) says "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

Have you considered what "the unity of the faith" actually IS? (It is a reflective question.)

The verses prior to it tell us things God has given us to help us get to this state, but do you know what it will look like? or How we will know when it is reached?

On the other hand, do you think we've already reached it? If so, when, and what made you think we've all come into this unity? What were the markers that let you know "we" had arrived?

And who is this "we all" that is mentioned as needing to be in this unity?


Awaiting your replies with love in Jesus,
Kelby
I felt that I was to look at this in the complete Jewish bible and am glad I did.

Furthermore, he gave some people as emissaries, some as prophets, some as proclaimers of the Good News, and some as shepherds and teachers

. 12 Their task is to equip God’s people for the work of service that builds the body of the Messiah,

13 until we all arrive at the unity implied by trusting and knowing the Son of God, at full manhood, at the standard of maturity set by the Messiah’s perfection.

The we all would be His body.
 

Waggles

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#3
And who is this "we all" that is mentioned as needing to be in this unity?
All of your OP is exclusively referring to the body of Christ - the church of God > the Pentecostal Bible obedient scripture believing
church of the saints wherein these signs shall follow them that believe.
For in the first century there was only ONE church with one doctrine > Mark 16:15-20 and Acts 2:38
and where all the saints enjoyed the Bible evidence of praying in tongues.
The Spirit-filled church that is blessed with all nine gifts of the Holy Spirit for the edification and admonishment of the saints.
 

JaumeJ

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#4
Some questions for your consideration....

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV) says "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

Have you considered what "the unity of the faith" actually IS? (It is a reflective question.)

The verses prior to it tell us things God has given us to help us get to this state, but do you know what it will look like? or How we will know when it is reached?

On the other hand, do you think we've already reached it? If so, when, and what made you think we've all come into this unity? What were the markers that let you know "we" had arrived?

And who is this "we all" that is mentioned as needing to be in this unity?


Awaiting your replies with love in Jesus,
Kelby
When we come to believe Jesus, Yeshua, we are new members of His Body. He is the Head. Just as we are living stones of the Temple, and He is the Chidf andthe Corner Stone rejected of men and taken up to His throne, until He returns we cannot be perfect,. Yet we are being perfected every moment by that Work begun in eaach of us by our blessed Maker.

We will not attain perfection until He has come back to put the "Stones " together. Then we will be just as He, though we will not be Yeshua, we will be jusst like He is, and that is an awesome future for us to await. God bless all the children, boys and girls of the family, amen.
 

Guojing

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Jan 12, 2019
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Some questions for your consideration....

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV) says "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

Have you considered what "the unity of the faith" actually IS? (It is a reflective question.)

The verses prior to it tell us things God has given us to help us get to this state, but do you know what it will look like? or How we will know when it is reached?

On the other hand, do you think we've already reached it? If so, when, and what made you think we've all come into this unity? What were the markers that let you know "we" had arrived?

And who is this "we all" that is mentioned as needing to be in this unity?


Awaiting your replies with love in Jesus,
Kelby
Ephesians is about the mystery that was revealed to Paul, where Gentiles are equally accepted in the eyes of God. That was a huge deal during his time.
 

stonesoffire

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Wasn’t the question (have we considered what the unity of the faith means)?

I can’t give an answer because I always thought it meant that at some point we would all think the same. Well that was disappointing after coming to forums.

Right now I see unity in the blood sacrifice and that’s about it.
 

stonesoffire

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Always be humble, gentle and patient, bearing with one another in love, 3 and making every effort to preserve the unity the Spirit gives through the binding power of shalom.