There have been many claimants to the title of the Messiah as predicted in the Torah. How can we know Jesus is the right one?

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p_rehbein

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(......here we go again....sigh)

Tell ya what...........YOU GO FIRST!
 
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'what p meant is = since you are questioning if Jesus is Messiah or not, give your thoughts.

just go with why YOU think so , or not.
I ask for the thoughts of others. Give if you so wish.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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I only have a minute, so this will have to be very brief:

Consider the following:

Daniel 9:24a , 25 , 26a (where a very specific "time-prophecy" is given):

24 Seventy weeks are decreed for your [Daniel's] people and your [Daniel's] holy city [...]

25 Know and understand this: From the issuance of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Messiah, the Prince, there will be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks. It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of distress.

26 Then after the sixty-two weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing.

Then the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. [...]



The 69 Weeks [/'sevens'] total (7 + 62) were concluded on the very day that Jesus DID the Zech9:9 thing (re: "Jerusalem" / "the
city") and SAID the Luke 19:41-44 thing (also re: "Jerusalem" / "the city"--see also Lk21:23,20 and Matt22:7 re: the city... in the events of 70ad, which followed the Cross [32ad], just as the SEQUENCE in the Dan9 passage shows to unfold).


Hope this helps you in your quest. :)
 
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Just to be sure of what you want, could you give, say, a half dozen claimants who were predicted in the Torah. Thanks.
I thought there was predicted to be only one Messiah?
 

Corban

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I thought there was predicted to be only one Messiah?
Well then your title, and following question is grammatically misleading.

"There have been many claimants to the title of the Messiah" ... How many?
"as predicted in the Torah". ... Where are the many claimants predicted?
"How can we know Jesus is the right one?" ... This confirms the "many" claimants for Jesus is one of them.

And, pray tell us, what is "a logical fallacy"? Just so we can answer with no traps.
 
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Well then your title, and following question is grammatically misleading.

"There have been many claimants to the title of the Messiah" ... How many?
"as predicted in the Torah". ... Where are the many claimants predicted?
"How can we know Jesus is the right one?" ... This confirms the "many" claimants for Jesus is one of them.

And, pray tell us, what is "a logical fallacy"? Just so we can answer with no traps.
I'm not sure that is is.

'There have been many claimants to the title of Messiah as predicted in the Torah'

is distinct from

'There have been claimants to the title of Messiah, as predicted in the Torah'

List https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
 

Dino246

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No logical fallacies please.
Matthew 11 tells us that when he was in prison, John ('the Baptist') sent word to Jesus: "Are You the Expected One, or shall we look for someone else?" Jesus responded, "The blind receive sight and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them." All these 'signs' were done by Jesus, and all were prophesied in the Old Testament. Nobody else has done similar things and also fulfilled the many other prophecies of the Messiah.
 
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Matthew 11 tells us that when he was in prison, John ('the Baptist') sent word to Jesus: "Are You the Expected One, or shall we look for someone else?" Jesus responded, "The blind receive sight and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them." All these 'signs' were done by Jesus, and all were prophesied in the Old Testament. Nobody else has done similar things and also fulfilled the many other prophecies of the Messiah.
Could you evidence your claiming that he fulfilled many other prophecies?
 

TheDivineWatermark

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As a brief blurb to go along with Dino246's Post #14, consider this:

[4:16-min video]


"Jesus Historically fulfilled over 300 Prophecies...Accidentally?"
 

Nehemiah6

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No logical fallacies please.
In that case you should do what I told you to do. Read and study the Gospels, and simply believe them. They make it crystal clear that Jesus of Nazareth was not only the Messiah/King of Israel but the Savior of the world.
 
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In that case you should do what I told you to do. Read and study the Gospels, and simply believe them. They make it crystal clear that Jesus of Nazareth was not only the Messiah/King of Israel but the Savior of the world.
That's a 'begging the question' fallacy.