There will be no Rapture!!!
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Because a fourth of the world's population will be wiped out in the first half. Some may not believe the chronology of Revelation, but I do...apart from the various perspective shifts between Heaven and earth, such as the dragon chasing the woman with child, that is spiritual imagery that has an earthly manifestation. Not necessarily chronological in the sense of shifts of perspective, but still chronological overall.
If we differ on that, then we differ.
MM
If we differ on that, then we differ.
MM
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The books you keep saying are heresy i.e. "AH" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Heresies_(Irenaeus)
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cv5 said:
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
AAAAAnnnnd you lose again. Yet another total epic fail on your part. As of now, you have been proven 100% wrong 100% of the time.
You cannot do any worse than that.
You are and have been batting zero buddy. 100% strikeouts.
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
AAAAAnnnnd you lose again. Yet another total epic fail on your part. As of now, you have been proven 100% wrong 100% of the time.
You cannot do any worse than that.
You are and have been batting zero buddy. 100% strikeouts.
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https://christianchat.com/threads/there-will-be-no-rapture.212356/post-5150914
cv5 said:
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
cv5 said:
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
the 144k are not even a point of focus [mentioned in Chapter 7] until Chapter 14
the 144k don't even Preach until the TWO WITNESSES are gone.
Two Witnesses are not Gone until midpoint Trib.
and the 144k Follow
and then we see those Saved from their preaching before the Throne of God
the others before God are the Beheaded
ALL happens AFTER midpoint trib
Act like you actually got a CLUE, cv5! ..even if you have to Pretend, like your pretend Doctrine!
the 144k don't even Preach until the TWO WITNESSES are gone.
Two Witnesses are not Gone until midpoint Trib.
and the 144k Follow
and then we see those Saved from their preaching before the Throne of God
the others before God are the Beheaded
ALL happens AFTER midpoint trib
Act like you actually got a CLUE, cv5! ..even if you have to Pretend, like your pretend Doctrine!
Make up your mind. Jews or gentiles or the Church. If you even have even the slightest comprehension of the text that is.
And YOU SAY that the Church is raptured BEFORE MID-TRIB WRATH? That is an insane conclusion.
cv5 said:
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the(se are) the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
And YOU SAY that the Church is raptured BEFORE MID-TRIB WRATH? That is an insane conclusion.
cv5 said:
Except there is ultra-super-mega-wrath focused upon the "saints" from Rev 13 to the SC.
Proof of which I have posted MULTIPLE TIMES. Rev13:7, 10 & 13 for example.
to which @The_Watchers_2017 replied:
the(se are) the Jews, of course. that was the Prophecy.
cv5 is placing the CHURCH before the Throne at Revelation 6.
but we know only 2 Groups are before the Throne, those Saved by the 144k and the Beheaded.
and the 144k don't even begin to preach until the Two Witnesses are gone, which don't happen until after mid trib [Revelation 14]
and those saved are not Standing before God until AFTER mid Trib.
and then the second group is mentioned 4 Chapters later, the BEHEADED!
talk about someone not only confused, but literally delusional!
but we know only 2 Groups are before the Throne, those Saved by the 144k and the Beheaded.
and the 144k don't even begin to preach until the Two Witnesses are gone, which don't happen until after mid trib [Revelation 14]
and those saved are not Standing before God until AFTER mid Trib.
and then the second group is mentioned 4 Chapters later, the BEHEADED!
talk about someone not only confused, but literally delusional!
What you are calling "wrath" in today's world is not the wrath of God. The word of God calls those "birth pangs" resulting from the destructive influences of sin upon creation. Even the heavens groan for release. As believing scientists, we recognize that as the playing out of the second law of thermal dynamics, which is a cause from sin, with the universe dying a slow and agonizing heat death.
Your claim that the Church will face the AC, that's a denial of what we know about the AC and the power OVER the remaining saints the AC to conquer them. If that were the Church, then God is a liar when He promised that the gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against the Church. Your system of belief hinges upon only a partial picture of what is revealed to us about AC and the Day of the Lord. Your definitions simply don't align with those of scripture.
Additionally, if the mid-trib thingy were true, then that too makes God a liar because if the Lord were to return at the middle, then EVERYONE can project to the day when He will come for the Church IF the Church were still here at that time, which it won't, and yet we are told it will come as a thief in the night to those who are not watching.
Sorry, but your system just doesn't match what's written.
MM
Your claim that the Church will face the AC, that's a denial of what we know about the AC and the power OVER the remaining saints the AC to conquer them. If that were the Church, then God is a liar when He promised that the gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against the Church. Your system of belief hinges upon only a partial picture of what is revealed to us about AC and the Day of the Lord. Your definitions simply don't align with those of scripture.
Additionally, if the mid-trib thingy were true, then that too makes God a liar because if the Lord were to return at the middle, then EVERYONE can project to the day when He will come for the Church IF the Church were still here at that time, which it won't, and yet we are told it will come as a thief in the night to those who are not watching.
Sorry, but your system just doesn't match what's written.
MM
Ah, ok. My point in all that was simply to say that I do not look to Irenaeus or any other of the ante, post, or any other era, but rather only to the writings of the apostles. I pointed out that Irenaeus did in fact teach a falsehood regarding "recapitulationism". He was fallible, and that false teaching of his proved that point.
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Say what lol? Everyone here knows and understands that I place the Church in HEAVEN......in Rev ch 4! Seen again in Rev ch 5!
BEFORE Revelation 6 every begins!
Church is long gone and have already been raptured, therefore not even on the earth between Revelation chapters 6 thru 18.
Get a clue buddy. Please PLEASE try and keep up.
BEFORE Revelation 6 every begins!
Church is long gone and have already been raptured, therefore not even on the earth between Revelation chapters 6 thru 18.
Get a clue buddy. Please PLEASE try and keep up.