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Dr. John Nelson Darby a Heretic – Father of Pretrib/Dispensational Teaching Denied Jesus’ Atonement!


Do you also deny Jesus' Atonement?
Lol. That is pretty standard fare from a rapture denier buddy. We are used to it.
 

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:from that same article:

There is much more on the Spurgeon Archive article, it is a must read if you’ve been sucked into the lies. Darby’s teachings are damnable heresies period!
I for one have not read one single word of Darby. Never needed to. Probably never will.
 
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If the Church Fathers found no proof of a pre-trib rapture, and they had better access to the "more original biblical materials," why do you doubt their understanding of Scripture for a version of Scripture that is a known translation of a translation?
 

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If the Church Fathers found no proof of a pre-trib rapture, and they had better access to the "more original biblical materials," why do you doubt their understanding of Scripture for a version of Scripture that is a known translation of a translation?
I don't doubt the apostle Paul's understanding. Nor my own. The early church fathers were all over the map.
 
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Spurgeon and eschatology? Well, evidently that was not his preaching style or speciality!
He probably wasn't pre-trib, But he was probably premillennial.

https://www.tms.edu/m/tmsj7g.pdf

I have no idea. I know many revere Spurgeon and I thought it was interesting he chose to address Darby's "False Doctrines."
 
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I don't doubt the apostle Paul's understanding. Nor my own. The early church fathers were all over the map.


The Apostle Paul also said we would remain until the "Last Trump" in 1 Corinthians. So maybe you should reread his Thessalonians better, especially the part that clarifies, those who are alive REMAIN!
 

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The Apostle Paul also said we would remain until the "Last Trump" in 1 Corinthians. So maybe you should reread his Thessalonians better, especially the part that clarifies, those who are alive REMAIN!
Lol. My friend you need a lot of study. Many more years of study! A pre-TRIB premillennial position is always at the end of the road for serious study.
 
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The Last Trump in 1st Corinthians is the 7th Trump in Revelations and matches the series of Events in Matthew 24.
 
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The wrath to come is Armageddon, not the Tribulation.
 

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That's a Doctrinal Myth. Jesus is not coming back to then come back 7 years later. That has never been scripture. That has been the design of a Heretic named Darby!
That denial comes from a heart filled with spite and ignorance.
 
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That denial comes from a heart filled with spite and ignorance.


Why would I be full of spite and hate for seeing what Paul claims, some of us will be alive until the LAST TRUMP, and he is talking about Believers, because the BEHEADED are DEAD already?
 
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Was Job spared from the Wrath of Satan?
Why should we be then?
But Job was definitely spared from the Wrath of God, like we will be.
 
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Absolutely completely wrong. Evidently you are a newbie.

The majority of people on Earth are SINNERS. This Tribulation is their heyday. This is Satan and his kingdom's heyday. This has nothing to do with God.
 

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