This forum is a MESS!can anyone debate without being rude?

[secularhermit]

I think you just made the OPs point.

I´m not sure (not worried either). It seems these forums are used to attack, to hurt... Instead of building or developing a Christian fellowship, that I have learned more about me and people´s mind.

Most of the times, if those words came from real pagans or unbelivers, I would think "I´m home", the place where I live in now but, sometimes, I wondered how come I would be granted an air ticket to get heaven or paradise: We´re behaving as enemies and not as friends...

 

[tourist]

Everyone on this forum shows why a lot of people do not like Protestants. So much disunity on this forum it's digusting. Everyone thinking their doctrines are the only truth and that everyone who disagrees is in danger of going to Hell. Do you really believe God is that shallow to send one to Hell for misinterperting a certain verse?grow up!

From my own personal observations here there is not a single denomination that is biblically acceptable in this forum. As the heading of the forum suggests, this is the bible discussion forum and not the bible doctrine resolution forum. Regardless, it provides a fascinating case study on why the members believe the way that they do. Btw, most of the respondents to this forum are grown-ups, albeit in different stages of spiritual development and understanding of the word of God. By being critical at the end of your post you have contributed to the chaos. It is best to remain calm and state your position(s) calmly, clearly and concisely.

 

[secularhermit]

Wow!

In here I see a college professor... Are you, Tour?

 

[VioletReigns]

The Bible Discussion Forum looks more like this to me than anything else.



When I first joined this site I was naïve and thought this forum was a literal "discussion about the Bible." heehee But I have since been enlightened. Mind you, there's the possibility of gleaning a wise tidbit or two here. But make no mistake, it's also a platform for several self-appointed "messengers" who can't capture an audience outside of their computer screen because they are mentally unhinged.

If you want a real Bible discussion, go to church.

 

[secularhermit]

No!

The Church I have seen have no place for "discussions".

Most of the places I´ve been said: "Follow me or you´ll be cast out"... So that´s one of the blessings CC and its people actually have.

 

[secularhermit]

@ Violet

Have you seen the movie "The Maze Runner"?

It be nice to learn some lessons it gives: Team work, loyalty, etc.

There are some things I will not mention about it, but life could be that maze.

 

[tourist]

Wow!

In here I see a college professor... Are you, Tour?

I graduated from the school of Hard Knocks.

 

[secularhermit]

I agree there are too many heated debates here, however: What does that have to do with Protestants? There are several Catholics on this forum ...

also, most other forums I have peeked into have been worse, believe it or not

Most of my real and best friends are Catholic. There´s one who BADLY insists on my "reconversion" to it and, the more I read and believe in Jesus, I understand these:

Mat 10:24-25 It is enough for the disciple that he may be as his master, and the servant as his lord. (...)

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not greater than his master, but everyone whose learning is complete will be like his master.

 

[yogosans14]

I am not a Protestant, I am a Landmark Baptist.

That's a Protestant!i consider myself baptist so I am Protestant.

 

[yogosans14]

Well I'm glad my generation doesn't spend time screaming heretics at everyone. I guess it's just the baby boomers...Welp.

 

[just-me]

That's what makes people keep coming back. Debating and arguing is entertaining. Everyone has their doctrines and that's as far as it goes. Most people are not here for learning. They think they must teach everyone else because they already know all there is about living a Christian life. My opinion is that many professing Christians are like the Girgashites that lived in Canaan land as Israel was directed to inhabit according to the will of God. Try starting a thread that is meaningful to edification. Those threads usually die.

Genesis 10:6-15
6 The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan.
7 The sons of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah and Sabteca. The sons of Raamah: Sheba and Dedan.
8 Cush was the father of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD."
10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar.
11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah
12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city.
13 Mizraim was the father of the Ludites, Anamites, Lehabites, Naphtuhites,
14 Pathrusites, Casluhites (from whom the Philistines came) and Caphtorites.
15 Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites,
16 Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites,

Joshua 3:10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites.

They made their own rules according to what worked for them and taught others according to their carnal mind. Most of the inhabitance of Canaan land were Nephilim.

 

[secularhermit]

That's a Protestant!i consider myself baptist so I am Protestant.

Good! I´m a protestant, even without a cause.

 

[Rudimental]

Everyone on this forum shows why a lot of people do not like Protestants. So much disunity on this forum it's digusting. Everyone thinking their doctrines are the only truth and that everyone who disagrees is in danger of going to Hell. Do you really believe God is that shallow to send one to Hell for misinterperting a certain verse?grow up!

1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
God chooses the foolish to put wise men to shame in all their "wisdom".

1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Even though we get it wrong. It still pleases God that we are teaching men of Him and about Him and His good news message.

Let us not argue and bicker. Christ never argued and bickered. He always gently said His piece then moved on to the next area.

Plant the seed. But let God provide the water.

 

[VioletReigns]

No!

The Church I have seen have no place for "discussions".

Most of the places I´ve been said: "Follow me or you´ll be cast out"... So that´s one of the blessings CC and its people actually have.

Yes, you have a point there secularhermit. I understand what you're saying. I was being facetious.

But you have to remember that this site is open to the entire world of people out there, some mature Christians, some babes in Christ, and some not Christians at all. The administrators here have enough work to do keeping this site running efficiently and cannot police all of the contentious quarrels and off-base scriptural interpretations.

We can do our part and report the worst cases to the administrators so the trouble makers and crazies can get banned. We can perhaps rally together and vote who to ignore, too. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

 

[secularhermit]

That's what makes people keep coming back. Debating and arguing is entertaining. Everyone has their doctrines and that's as far as it goes. Most people are not here for learning. They think they must teach everyone else because they already know all there is about living a Christian life. My opinion is that many professing Christians are like the Girgashites that lived in Canaan land as Israel was directed to inhabit according to the will of God. Try starting a thread that is meaningful to edification. Those threads usually die.

Genesis 10:6-15
6 The sons of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan.
7 The sons of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah and Sabteca. The sons of Raamah: Sheba and Dedan.
8 Cush was the father of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD."
10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar.
11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah
12 and Resen, which is between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city.
13 Mizraim was the father of the Ludites, Anamites, Lehabites, Naphtuhites,
14 Pathrusites, Casluhites (from whom the Philistines came) and Caphtorites.
15 Canaan was the father of Sidon his firstborn, and of the Hittites,
16 Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites,

Joshua 3:10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites.

They made their own rules according to what worked for them and taught others according to their carnal mind. Most of the inhabitance of Canaan land were Nephilim.

What you said, bro, reminded me the movie "Noah" (with Russel Crowe). I saw it this morning.

 

[3Scoreand10]

That's a Protestant!i consider myself baptist so I am Protestant.

No Landmark Baptist are not protestant.
Protestants came out of Catholcism.
We trace our beliefs and teachings to those who refused to be indoctrinated by their hericy and remained faithful to the truth that is taught by Jesus . We have been called by many names down through history.
Many of us died at the hands of Catholcism because of our stand for the truth.

 

[didymos]

Well I'm glad my generation doesn't spend time screaming heretics at everyone. I guess it's just the baby boomers...Welp.

There's nothing new under the sun (Eccl. 1:9)
(just grow up and find out for yourself.)

People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)...

[video=youtube;s-geX7D4hgM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-geX7D4hgM[/video]

 

[posthuman]

Because it's mostly Protestant denomations bickering with one another. I'm not catholic but it's pathetic to see Christians calling each other heretics...

what would you like to see?
more wishy-washiness, blind acceptance of every false teaching, all of us acting as if there is no truth and everyone is right no matter how contrary to scripture they might be? zero absolutes and universal pats-on-backs? open sails to every wind of doctrine? everyone give up conviction and no one search out to see what is right and what is not?

i have never looked, but i am sure there is a unitarian universalist forum out there somewhere, with fake smiles and soft, squishy foundations for everyone.

iron sharpens iron. sparks fly. some of the debating going on here between individuals has been going on for months and years, not confined to one thread, so disputes are not necessarily as hasty as they seem.

it's true too, that many tempers flare and posts and judgments are made in ways that are much less than meekness and gentleness. thank you for reminding us to be kind -- but please do understand that most people here - correct or mislead - argue strongly for the sake of the truth, because they are zealous for Him, and if we were to all forbid ourselves from calling out heresy, there could not exist any such thing as "sound doctrine."

if there ain't no wrong, then there ain't no right.

 

[secularhermit]

Yes, you have a point there secularhermit. I understand what you're saying. I was being facetious.

But you have to remember that this site is open to the entire world of people out there, some mature Christians, some babes in Christ, and some not Christians at all. The administrators here have enough work to do keeping this site running efficiently and cannot police all of the contentious quarrels and off-base scriptural interpretations.

We can do our part and report the worst cases to the administrators so the trouble makers and crazies can get banned. We can perhaps rally together and vote who to ignore, too. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Hi! I forgot to say "Hello".

When you said "...and vote who to ignore..." I remembered CC has an "Ignore bottom", and it could be used at people´s discretion (1)

But (2) if people are reluctant to go to church, to approach those believers you mentioned, how come they would be helped to know the Lord?

Pro 27:17 Iron makes iron sharp; so a man makes sharp his friend.

Perhaps there are many things you did not mentioned on here (it's also a platform for several self-appointed "messengers" who can't capture an audience...) but, as a matter of honesty, transparency, etc. I have found I don´t want to be labeled as Christian, untill I´ve found those who are those who they are and are not hiding who they were and who they are: Some are playing roles, using nicknames and, if I was asked: "Antonio! Do you want to go to heaven?" I would probably said: "Lord! Allow me to live longer the place I got as home, because here I know who is who".

 

[yogosans14]

what would you like to see?
more wishy-washiness, blind acceptance of every false teaching, all of us acting as if there is no truth and everyone is right no matter how contrary to scripture they might be? zero absolutes and universal pats-on-backs? open sails to every wind of doctrine? everyone give up conviction and no one search out to see what is right and what is not?

i have never looked, but i am sure there is a unitarian universalist forum out there somewhere, with fake smiles and soft, squishy foundations for everyone.

iron sharpens iron. sparks fly. some of the debating going on here between individuals has been going on for months and years, not confined to one thread, so disputes are not necessarily as hasty as they seem.

it's true too, that many tempers flare and posts and judgments are made in ways that are much less than meekness and gentleness. thank you for reminding us to be kind -- but please do understand that most people here - correct or mislead - argue strongly for the sake of the truth, because they are zealous for Him, and if we were to all forbid ourselves from calling out heresy, there could not exist any such thing as "sound doctrine."

if there ain't no wrong, then there ain't no right.

Nobody here is Universalist though. I was reading one thread and one guy was telling the other person hes going to hell for believing in "eternal security". Im sure God smiles when he sees his children saying things like that to another! (Sarcasm)