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You people have IgnoretheOPosis. BUT, okay, Israel is dwelling safely before Gog and Magog, not protected, with the occasional slip-up by God when the rockets rain down. Israel is not wondering everyday when the next war comes, where Ezekiel 38 per-Gog begins. Israel is at rest and safe. You gots me repeatin' mahself!
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lol.. That can not be so, Israel is still in sin.
Ez 39 makes it clear. that Israel repents BECAUSE of God and Magog (that particular war) It also says the gentiles now know God is the God of Israel, because he restores them to the nation, and takes them from the hand of the gentiles.
That is why it can not be a complete restoration. Most likely (like today) there are still alot of jews in gentile control because of her sin.
Ezek 39: [SUP]22 [/SUP]So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward. [SUP]23 [/SUP]The Gentiles shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity; because they were unfaithful to Me, therefore I hid My face from them. I gave them into the hand of their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. [SUP]24 [/SUP]According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I have dealt with them, and hidden My face from them.”’
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Therefore thus says the Lord God: ‘Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name— [SUP]26 [/SUP]after they have borne their shame, and all their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, when they dwelt safely in their own land and no one made them afraid. [SUP]27 [/SUP]When I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and I am hallowed in them in the sight of many nations, [SUP]28 [/SUP]then they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer.
Ez 39 makes it clear. that Israel repents BECAUSE of God and Magog (that particular war) It also says the gentiles now know God is the God of Israel, because he restores them to the nation, and takes them from the hand of the gentiles.
That is why it can not be a complete restoration. Most likely (like today) there are still alot of jews in gentile control because of her sin.
Ezek 39: [SUP]22 [/SUP]So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward. [SUP]23 [/SUP]The Gentiles shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity; because they were unfaithful to Me, therefore I hid My face from them. I gave them into the hand of their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. [SUP]24 [/SUP]According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I have dealt with them, and hidden My face from them.”’
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Therefore thus says the Lord God: ‘Now I will bring back the captives of Jacob, and have mercy on the whole house of Israel; and I will be jealous for My holy name— [SUP]26 [/SUP]after they have borne their shame, and all their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, when they dwelt safely in their own land and no one made them afraid. [SUP]27 [/SUP]When I have brought them back from the peoples and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and I am hallowed in them in the sight of many nations, [SUP]28 [/SUP]then they shall know that I am the Lord their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer.
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That does not fit either because the prince is in reference to the man of sin ( antichrist ).
The reason being is because Titus did not want the temple destroyed, his men disobeyed him in destroying it, so if Titus was the prince prophesied about then he would have ordered the destruction but he did not.
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The prince is the future leader of rome,
And daniel says he will destroy the city and sanctuary, What titus wanted does not matter, He did it, and fulfilled the prophesy, Titus and his army was the people, the prince who is to come is antichrist.
Then the flood of wars and desolation (or as Jesus called them, wars and rumors of wars) will continue until a time determined.
THEN someone confirms a covenant with many for one week, only to break that covenant in the middle with the abomination of desolation jesus spoke of.
And daniel says he will destroy the city and sanctuary, What titus wanted does not matter, He did it, and fulfilled the prophesy, Titus and his army was the people, the prince who is to come is antichrist.
Then the flood of wars and desolation (or as Jesus called them, wars and rumors of wars) will continue until a time determined.
THEN someone confirms a covenant with many for one week, only to break that covenant in the middle with the abomination of desolation jesus spoke of.
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Alright, then, the geography thing. If that best selling paperback book you can get for only $15 that says Gog and Magog is upon us, because Russia invaded Crimea, where are Israel's Muslim near neighbors in the Gog coalition? Could it possibly be that, with the millennium, Islam is done dead, period, not your Daddy's map, either, at the time of Gog and Magog?
why not talk about animal sacrifice in "Ezekiel's temple"? if anyone is placing this Armageddon after a "millennium" they have a problem. don't they. they have double trouble.
it's actually so simple. but it can't be explained to someone with their mind made up by someone else (false teachers). Revelation simply retells the same story over and over.
it's actually so simple. but it can't be explained to someone with their mind made up by someone else (false teachers). Revelation simply retells the same story over and over.
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Already mentioned the New Jerusalem and the presence of God statements in both Revelation and Ezekiel 39. It is impossible to see the following as not being a statement of tranquil peace and rest over the land of Israel, prior to Gog,
Ezekiel 38:11-12 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, to take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
In fact, in our pre-tribulation times, Israel is building walls, the constant restlessness of a high state of security exists, missile attacks, Iran threatening genocide, riots, no need to go further, this for now and the foreseeable future. But the end of the millennium? Safety and rest, for a long time, unwalled villages, no bars or gates, no security cares.
Ezekiel 38:11-12 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, to take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
In fact, in our pre-tribulation times, Israel is building walls, the constant restlessness of a high state of security exists, missile attacks, Iran threatening genocide, riots, no need to go further, this for now and the foreseeable future. But the end of the millennium? Safety and rest, for a long time, unwalled villages, no bars or gates, no security cares.
and:
- who is Gog
- what is time sequence (past or future)
truly. if you can read ezekiel and use only portions of his prophecies for 2014 or 3015 instead of during his lifetime and/or shortly afterward PLUS or MINUS the added prophecy of eternity like every other single prophet in scripture, please do it.
show who is Gog today.
- who is Gog
- what is time sequence (past or future)
truly. if you can read ezekiel and use only portions of his prophecies for 2014 or 3015 instead of during his lifetime and/or shortly afterward PLUS or MINUS the added prophecy of eternity like every other single prophet in scripture, please do it.
show who is Gog today.