This Is Not Your Daddy's Gog and Magog

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JesusLives

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Around the end of the year here between cmas and new years, the VT state troopers are out in full force watching for drunk drivers.. "Click it or ticket" is the slogan here in Vermont.
Nice slogan in Florida it is Arrive Alive.....
 
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JesusIsAll

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Bla Bla Bla !!! ... on and on you go

Grow up and learn something

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The KJV translates Strongs H983 in the following manner: safely (17x), safety (9x),carelessly (3x), careless (2x), safe (2x), securely (2x), assurance (1x), boldly (1x), care (1x),confidence (1x), hope (1x), secure (1x), surely (1x).[/TD]
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Well how about that? You follow up false accusation with being your own private translator, God's singular, special little creature. Have fun stuffing that square peg into a round hole.

P.S. The Ignore feature works! Welcome!
 
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EG

No .... the nations today including Israel do not know who the Lord is today

Israel does not believe that Jesus Christ is their Messiah and King

And most of the 8 billion people on the earth know nothing about Him and do not care

And I have to tell you that a larger portion of professing Christianity has no idea either because they have blinded themselves with their religious traditions
 

JesusLives

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Tourist and JesusLives watches the battle raging in thread.....
 
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P.S. The Ignore feature works! Welcome!


Just as I thought ..... one who ignores the Lord's Word

Now I understand where you are coming from son

There are other avenues of social media that fit your gate .... but a Bible forum?

Pick another sandbox place to play in

So what is up with this "I love Jesus" stuff?
 
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tourist

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"So, Israel is enjoying safety and security, prior to Armageddon?"


They are .... and protected by the Lord for His purposes .... until He is ready to pressure them [Jeremiah 30}

The fact that the returned remnant Israel is surviving as long as they have is against all odds .... the Lord's hand is in the process


And you need to find your "Daddy" dude

You need some guidance on how to conduct your behavior on a public Christian message board

You are not only displaying juvenile nonsense .... you are actually mocking the Lord's Word

This will not bode well for you
This is obviously not your daddy's Gog and Magog. I will pour you a glass of eggnog with a splash of Jack to take the edge off.
 
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JesusIsAll

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reading 38.

I see Isreal, gathered in her land, in peace (protected) and a great army comes against her, And god himself destroys the army.

this causes the nations to know who is the real God, as their is no question after this.


so prior to this.

the nations must not yet know who God is (following another god or person)


this rules out the 1000 year reign at the end.. for the nations have seen god for 1000 years at this time. Unless God is saying they have forgotten by this time.
There is the presence of heathen in the millennium, it nowhere taught the entire globe in a state of obedient perfection (nor would a rod of iron be required, then),

Zechariah 14:17-19 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

There are other prophecies indicating such in the millennium, though not ready in memory at this time, but I could dig them up, if you like. Only, right now, gots sumthin' else pressin' ta' tend to!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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EG

No .... the nations today including Israel do not know who the Lord is today

Israel does not believe that Jesus Christ is their Messiah and King

And most of the 8 billion people on the earth know nothing about Him and do not care

And I have to tell you that a larger portion of professing Christianity has no idea either because they have blinded themselves with their religious traditions
agree, It will be that way up until the end of the tribulation, when Jesus comes to earth, then all isreal will be saved and all who endured tribulation will be saved also.

Not sure what that has to do with this topic though.
 
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You will pour me nothing dude

The Lord will take your edge off .... in one way or another .... wait and see
 
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eternally-gratefull

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There is the presence of heathen in the millennium, it nowhere taught the entire globe in a state of obedient perfection (nor would a rod of iron be required, then),

Zechariah 14:17-19 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

There are other prophecies indicating such in the millennium, though not ready in memory at this time, but I could dig them up, if you like. Only, right now, gots sumthin' else pressin' ta' tend to!
saying there are SOME heathen (which we will agree) and saying "the nations" are not the same. I believe Ez is talking about all nations, not just some.. Of course it is my opinion..lol until someone shows me something else.
 

JesusLives

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Being as our friend is 46 and you are 38 I think you are the son here son..... However we all do love the Son of God right? So why the fight? We were just taking a little intermission can I pour you a glass of Egg Nog.... tis the season.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Tourist and JesusLives watches the battle raging in thread.....
Sorry. Need to go wash off the dirt. Lord help me, sometimes I likes a good scrap. LOL!
 
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agree, It will be that way up until the end of the tribulation, when Jesus comes to earth, then all isreal will be saved and all who endured tribulation will be saved also.

Not sure what that has to do with this topic though


Much to do with His hand in the affairs of humanity .... He shows us by His prophetic Word what He intends

Understanding "gog and magog" is a very significant part of His plan
 
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"it was a joke..he was kidding..chill out!!"

Really .... how do you know this?

.... and let me remind you, you do not tell me how to react to this continued nonsense
 

tourist

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You will pour me nothing dude

The Lord will take your edge off .... in one way or another .... wait and see
I can only hope and pray that this happens seeing how I don't imbibe alcohol. Now, to avoid further confusion I am not saying that I don't enjoy alcoholic beverages but only that I no longer drink. You must never drink and drive. Please get a designated driver.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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agree, It will be that way up until the end of the tribulation, when Jesus comes to earth, then all isreal will be saved and all who endured tribulation will be saved also.

Not sure what that has to do with this topic though


Much to do with His hand in the affairs of humanity .... He shows us by His prophetic Word what He intends

Understanding "gog and magog" is a very significant part of His plan

1. It is not salvic. so not worth getting mad over, or causing contention. You do not need to know it to go to heaven
2. We will not know the exact fulfillment until after it is fulfilled.
3. We can guess, and it is fun to discuss. But to get angry and bent out of shape is a little satanic influence. and should not be done (yes I have been influenced before so not judging what I do not know)

and you still have not shown what you meant.. Nothing in the passage says Israel believed, It just says they were in safety (peace) protected..
 
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I already have One .... guess who?

You should take a turn and do the same
 

JesusLives

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Sorry. Need to go wash off the dirt. Lord help me, sometimes I likes a good scrap. LOL!
I am seeing a trend here Why is it the young people are the ones always getting so upset at a little bit of fun... I'll never understand. But then I am Blond....