Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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When people do that - it is a sign of having a carnal mind and not really knowing the love of the Father for them. The answer is to preach the grace of God in Christ because it teaches us how to live godly in this present world.
There is also the discipline of the Lord too but all this has nothing to do with the false doctrine that our Father sends His beloved children to hell after they are saved by grace through faith and are sealed with the Holy Spirit whom Jesus aid will be in you forever. Unless He is now a liar. Eph. 1:13 & John 14:16
This false demonically inspired doctrine that our Father throws His beloved children into hell after Christ comes to live in them that the enemy has put into the mind of man has caused more damage to the body of Christ then any other foul doctrine.
It denies the work of Christ and nullifies the very grace of God we need from operating in our lives like it was meant to. It denies the love, grace and mercy of God in Christ and it denies the whole "why" of the gospel in the first place.
A drowning man needs a Savior - not 5 lessons on how to swim and if you don't learn them and hold onto them - you will drown. A Savior saves people from their sins.
There is also the discipline of the Lord too but all this has nothing to do with the false doctrine that our Father sends His beloved children to hell after they are saved by grace through faith and are sealed with the Holy Spirit whom Jesus aid will be in you forever. Unless He is now a liar. Eph. 1:13 & John 14:16
This false demonically inspired doctrine that our Father throws His beloved children into hell after Christ comes to live in them that the enemy has put into the mind of man has caused more damage to the body of Christ then any other foul doctrine.
It denies the work of Christ and nullifies the very grace of God we need from operating in our lives like it was meant to. It denies the love, grace and mercy of God in Christ and it denies the whole "why" of the gospel in the first place.
A drowning man needs a Savior - not 5 lessons on how to swim and if you don't learn them and hold onto them - you will drown. A Savior saves people from their sins.
Salvation is for a lifetime, UNLESS you deny God. Then you lose your salvation forever..
The word for "turn" in Jude 1:4 means to "replace" or "in place of" or " to transpose"...people are replacing the grace of God for something else.
It does not mean that people are "turning" grace into lewdness as the KJV seems to look like it is saying.
It has nothing to do with so-called grace/OSAS believers using grace as a license to sin which is constantly being accused of. Paul was slanderously accused of the very same thing when he taught grace.
Here are some scriptures where the exact same Greek word is used to see how it is used. You can readily see that the word means to transpose or to exchange from one place to another.
Acts 7:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "From there they were removed to Shechem and laid in the tomb which Abraham had purchased for a sum of money from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.
Galatians 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Hebrews 11:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Here is what the Greek word means:
"To transpose, put in another place and hence to transport, transfer"
Complete Word Study Dictionary, The - The Complete Word Study Dictionary – New Testament.
It does not mean that people are "turning" grace into lewdness as the KJV seems to look like it is saying.
It has nothing to do with so-called grace/OSAS believers using grace as a license to sin which is constantly being accused of. Paul was slanderously accused of the very same thing when he taught grace.
Here are some scriptures where the exact same Greek word is used to see how it is used. You can readily see that the word means to transpose or to exchange from one place to another.
Acts 7:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "From there they were removed to Shechem and laid in the tomb which Abraham had purchased for a sum of money from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.
Galatians 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Hebrews 11:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Here is what the Greek word means:
"To transpose, put in another place and hence to transport, transfer"
Complete Word Study Dictionary, The - The Complete Word Study Dictionary – New Testament.
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The only difference between lewdness and legalism is the legalism thinks he does not sin.
Both, in pride, think they are ok with God. when reality is they are not.
Jude also said those people were condemned already, they were not saved and lost it, They never had it.
So to use this to support loss of salvation is pretty sad and shows lack of understanding of Jude.
Both, in pride, think they are ok with God. when reality is they are not.
Jude also said those people were condemned already, they were not saved and lost it, They never had it.
So to use this to support loss of salvation is pretty sad and shows lack of understanding of Jude.
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No, You did not answer. (Do you think Jesus did not already know that girl would sin again?)
Why did God save you Give you eternal life, when he KNEw you already were going to commit that one sin, and probably many other sins.
Answer.. I am sick of you people never answering questions then trying to turn the tables..