To comfort those who speak in tongues
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I take it you speak tongues in church. Don't you think that if your church is full of unbelievers that perhaps you need to take a long hard look at what your preacher is saying from the pulpit? How many years must one have to witness to unbelievers before one realizes that they should start believing at some point?
With that statement I have clearly illustrated why your understanding of tongues is wrong.
As for the highlighted, the bible doesn't say that. You are adding your own words to the bible and calling it scripture again.
How many times must you be warned about that for it to stop?
If the rest of your congregation is like you, I'm beginning to understand why you have to keep talking in tongues - there comes a point in time to grow and mature in the word.
Aren't you old enough, haven't you been around the word long enough, for that to start happening?
With that statement I have clearly illustrated why your understanding of tongues is wrong.
As for the highlighted, the bible doesn't say that. You are adding your own words to the bible and calling it scripture again.
How many times must you be warned about that for it to stop?
If the rest of your congregation is like you, I'm beginning to understand why you have to keep talking in tongues - there comes a point in time to grow and mature in the word.
Aren't you old enough, haven't you been around the word long enough, for that to start happening?
28 years born again, baptised in the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues, moving in ministry.
I do NOT disagree (as you do) with what God says that speaking in tongues is a sign for unbelievers. That is not the only purpose as Paul says but for the sake of this conversation, speaking in tongues publicly is one of the signs for unbelievers.
1 Cor 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
If you want to change the word of God that is your option, and it cannot be done without penalty. YOUR CHOICE.
It is interesting that you highlighted "the rebellious and those who trust in the arm of the flesh"...because that is what you are demonstrating here. Again, it cannot be done without penalty.
You want me to think you are mature because you misquote and misunderstand... and worse... discard Bible verses?
I don't think so.
One day when you realize you need to come to Jesus as a little child, and put away all your puffed-up nonsense and false authority, He may bless you with a gift.
But meanwhile,
Matt 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Now THAT is a warning.
I do NOT disagree (as you do) with what God says that speaking in tongues is a sign for unbelievers. That is not the only purpose as Paul says but for the sake of this conversation, speaking in tongues publicly is one of the signs for unbelievers.
1 Cor 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
If you want to change the word of God that is your option, and it cannot be done without penalty. YOUR CHOICE.
It is interesting that you highlighted "the rebellious and those who trust in the arm of the flesh"...because that is what you are demonstrating here. Again, it cannot be done without penalty.
You want me to think you are mature because you misquote and misunderstand... and worse... discard Bible verses?
I don't think so.
One day when you realize you need to come to Jesus as a little child, and put away all your puffed-up nonsense and false authority, He may bless you with a gift.
But meanwhile,
Matt 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Now THAT is a warning.
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"This being the case" Ben, would you be kind enough to give us an example of one of these occasions (I'm assuming there were many given that you used the word language in the plural sense ..i.e... other languages) where you suddenly and unbeknownst shared the gospel message in an earthly language to another that you had no previous knowledge of or expertise in ? On the street somewhere ? In a grocery store perhaps ? Where and when ? 
This request is extended to others on this thread as well
This request is extended to others on this thread as well 1 Corinthians 14:6-19
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching?
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;
[SUP]19[/SUP] yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
Even Paul said Tongues are not that Important.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching?
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
[SUP]9 [/SUP] So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say "Amen" at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all;
[SUP]19[/SUP] yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue.
Even Paul said Tongues are not that Important.
There are many people today in the Church that seek out the Gift of Tongues not to edify God but to elevate themselves above all others. They are like the Pharisees of the old days, standing on the corner elevating themselves in the eyes of the people.
Do not misunderstand what i am saying. Tongues is a good gift but there are better Gifts than tongues!
There are many Churches which insist you have not received Salvation until you speak in Tongues. Its so sad when people try using the Gift of Tongues from the Holy Spirit to make themselves greater in the eyes of everyone else.
Do not misunderstand what i am saying. Tongues is a good gift but there are better Gifts than tongues!
There are many Churches which insist you have not received Salvation until you speak in Tongues. Its so sad when people try using the Gift of Tongues from the Holy Spirit to make themselves greater in the eyes of everyone else.
"This being the case" Ben, would you be kind enough to give us an example of one of these occasions (I'm assuming there were many given that you used the word language in the plural sense ..i.e... other languages) where you suddenly and unbeknownst shared the gospel message in an earthly language to another that you had no previous knowledge of or expertise in ? On the street somewhere ? In a grocery store perhaps ? Where and when ? This request is extended to others on this thread as well
This request is extended to others on this thread as well
Personally, I haven't been presented with such an opportunity, or at the very least stepped out in faith to do it. I am willing to do it however, as the Lord does operate in the gift and if He so desires to share the Gospel with a passerby that doesn't speak english He has given me the gift that can minister it to them.
As I said, do a little digging and you'll realize there are people within the body of Christ who speak in tongues and can share testimonies of them speaking in languages perfectly that they have never studied. Usually testimonies of someone listening in on them and being baffled that the person is speaking in some dialect perfectly. I recall recently I was watching Sid Roth (from Sid Roth, It's Supernatural) sharing a testimony of such, that it confirmed to him that he operated in the gift because he was speaking in tongues and a person pointed out he was speaking in a particular language perfectly. That day forward, he was confident he had the gift because of that experience.
"This being the case" Ben, would you be kind enough to give us an example of one of these occasions (I'm assuming there were many given that you used the word language in the plural sense ..i.e... other languages) where you suddenly and unbeknownst shared the gospel message in an earthly language to another that you had no previous knowledge of or expertise in ? On the street somewhere ? In a grocery store perhaps ? Where and when ? This request is extended to others on this thread as well
This request is extended to others on this thread as well
From: "In Our Own Tongues": A Defense of Miraculous Speech Based on Eyewitness Testimony
An example...
Missionary John DeCock picked up a hitchhiker somewhere between Paramaribo and Moengo, the two largest cities in Suriname. He tried unsuccessfully to strike up a conversation with the man. He attempted to speak to him in multiple languages — including French, German, Dutch, and English — but the stranger just stared back blankly.
Finally, DeCock cried out to the Lord, wondering whether he had made a mistake by picking up this hitchhiker.
The missionary sensed God saying: “Didn’t I give you another language?”
Yes, but …
“Well, why don’t you use it?”
Thinking there wouldn’t be any harm, DeCock began speaking in tongues. To his amazement, the hitchhiker’s expression immediately changed, and he started talking back. From then on, John spoke in tongues and gave the man time to respond.
They conversed for about 15 minutes. John couldn’t understand a word, but he could tell the man was deeply touched.
As they approached Tamanredjo, a Javanese community, the man motioned for DeCock to stop there. Before getting out, the hitchhiker started crying. He took both of DeCock’s hands in a gesture of thanks.
DeCock didn’t know what his new friend said, but he had an inner assurance that he would see him again one day in heaven.
and another
Kathy Buckles went on a short-term missions trip to Costa Rica with some members of her church. Once she arrived, Kathy prayed, “Please Lord, let me pray in tongues in the language the people here understand.”
One evening, as Buckles prayed with a distressed woman, her prayers turned into tongues. She kept praying with the woman until she felt a release from the Lord. When Buckles walked away, the thought came to mind that she had actually spoken in Spanish when praying for the upset woman.
The next morning, the resident missionary, Rick Ryan, told Buckles he was standing nearby as she prayed in tongues the night before. He told her she spoke in fluent Spanish, and because of her prayer, the Lord delivered the woman from an evil spirit, saved her, and baptized her in the Holy Spirit.
When Buckles asked the Lord to let her pray in the local language, she had no idea how He would answer her prayer. She simply trusted the Lord, and the Holy Spirit did a marvelous miracle.
The book: Global Witnesses to Pentecost: The Testimony of “Other Tongues
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this 'client nation' business is something I have never heard of before CC....it seems the idea behind this concept is or has limited acceptance, in fact, on the site where I found info on it, the intro runs like this:
yeah, so, it is SO specialized, that not many have heard of it
you can view here for yourself
CLIENT NATIONS1. A client nation is a national entity under the benevolent support of God. It isassigned the responsibility for the communication, and fulfillment of the canonof Scripture. [ formation, preservation (Jewish) ]2. A client nation is a synonym for a priest nation. 1 Pet 2:9, "But you are an elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out from darkness into His marvelous light."3. A Client nation to God is a nation under divine protection,Because it has a large pivot of mature believers. These mature believershave blessing by association to those around them and historical blessing totheir nation. 4. A client nation is responsible to do five things. a. It must evangelize its own population at home. b. It must communicate Bible doctrine to the believers in the nation. c. It is responsible for the custodianship of Bible doctrine. d. It provides a haven for the Jews. e. It is responsible to send out missionaries to evangelize other nations.5. Negative Volition to Bible doctrine destroys a client nation.
Apparently, some folk believe the US is now a client nation
yeah....ok then
yeah, so, it is SO specialized, that not many have heard of it
you can view here for yourself
CLIENT NATIONS1. A client nation is a national entity under the benevolent support of God. It isassigned the responsibility for the communication, and fulfillment of the canonof Scripture. [ formation, preservation (Jewish) ]2. A client nation is a synonym for a priest nation. 1 Pet 2:9, "But you are an elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out from darkness into His marvelous light."3. A Client nation to God is a nation under divine protection,Because it has a large pivot of mature believers. These mature believershave blessing by association to those around them and historical blessing totheir nation. 4. A client nation is responsible to do five things. a. It must evangelize its own population at home. b. It must communicate Bible doctrine to the believers in the nation. c. It is responsible for the custodianship of Bible doctrine. d. It provides a haven for the Jews. e. It is responsible to send out missionaries to evangelize other nations.5. Negative Volition to Bible doctrine destroys a client nation.
Apparently, some folk believe the US is now a client nation
yeah....ok then
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what most don't know about me, is that I really do not go about seeking God out of my emotions...however, God is not logical in the sense that we get to have all our duckies lined up and then make them quack
while emotions are most certainly involved I don't want them to rule over my head...that can be a struggle at times but God knows, I need to satisfy my brain before how I feel...feelings change all the time, but what is fact, what is truth, in God, does not
ultimately, we cannot figure God out with our brains....faith is not something you can sit on the mantle and look at...it is unattainable for some and like salvation, also from God
we do not always know what we have in our own hearts...the heart is a tricky thing and only God can expose it to us in a way that changes us from the inside
while emotions are most certainly involved I don't want them to rule over my head...that can be a struggle at times but God knows, I need to satisfy my brain before how I feel...feelings change all the time, but what is fact, what is truth, in God, does not
ultimately, we cannot figure God out with our brains....faith is not something you can sit on the mantle and look at...it is unattainable for some and like salvation, also from God
we do not always know what we have in our own hearts...the heart is a tricky thing and only God can expose it to us in a way that changes us from the inside
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not really...here is the scripture from I Cor 14 you seem to refer to:
[SUP]19[/SUP] yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue
what Paul was actually saying here is that if no one understands what you are saying then it really is not helpful
Paul was correcting the misuse of tongues, he was not disparging tongues ...in fact he also said FORBID NOT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES which seems to be handily forgotten, and he also said that he spoke in tongues more than anyone
I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; I Cor 14:18
so, if we are going to take a look at that chapter without prejudice, we are going to see that Paul didn't want people abusing a gift that had/has meaning and purpose
he had an expectation that God has a purpose in this gift, THEREFORE it did not make sense if in a church setting, no one understood...so, he concluded that better to speak few words with understanding then many with none
To clairfy his position on tongues, in case anyone would wrongly assume he was saying just shut up already, he also stated that tongues should NOT be stopped and he also said that he used tongues more than anyone AND he thanked God for that!
[SUP]19[/SUP] yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue
what Paul was actually saying here is that if no one understands what you are saying then it really is not helpful
Paul was correcting the misuse of tongues, he was not disparging tongues ...in fact he also said FORBID NOT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES which seems to be handily forgotten, and he also said that he spoke in tongues more than anyone
I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; I Cor 14:18
so, if we are going to take a look at that chapter without prejudice, we are going to see that Paul didn't want people abusing a gift that had/has meaning and purpose
he had an expectation that God has a purpose in this gift, THEREFORE it did not make sense if in a church setting, no one understood...so, he concluded that better to speak few words with understanding then many with none
To clairfy his position on tongues, in case anyone would wrongly assume he was saying just shut up already, he also stated that tongues should NOT be stopped and he also said that he used tongues more than anyone AND he thanked God for that!
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I was seeking those with a personal, first-hand experience of speaking in an earthly dialect unknown and/or unlearned by them previously for the gospels sake ... but thanks for replying. I'd take anything that comes from Sid Roth's show with a (big) grain of salt. Guests claiming everything from gold dust falling on them from heaven to heaven and hell visitations "in the spirit" fairly regularly. Rarely would he entertain anyone absent a sign and wonder. His credibility doesn't move the needle on my meter. People will say many things for a variety of reasons. One thing is certain though. The following verse addresses those who think they were believing and acting according to God's Word in Christ ... but clearly were not His own. Examine our hearts in the light of God's truth in Christ.
Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
I refer to you my second post in reply to you: http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...t-those-who-speak-tongues-25.html#post2251838
Unless of course you mean you wish to speak with someone who has firsthand experience. In any case there is sufficient evidence to show that it is in operation today.
Unless of course you mean you wish to speak with someone who has firsthand experience. In any case there is sufficient evidence to show that it is in operation today.
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Have been on both sides of this issue and am still learning about the gift of speaking and singing in tongues. A peace settles on my heart and mind and person. While driving to work or just working around the house I'm learning to speak and sing in tongues. My stress level goes down and I'm strengthened for the hours a head at work and for dealing with people in a right attitude. This gift is a blessing and I'm still just learning about it. The joy of worship and being in God's presence becomes foremost in thought and purpose. Strength for the inner man and joy in the HolySpirit. I can attest to this as a Christian woman and encourage you to stir up this gift by using it and not neglecting time with the Lord.
Speaking in tongues is totally in our control and not like I thought it was something that takes over your body. No., you are given this gift when you ask for the baptism of the HolySpirit. You just begin and stop just like we do when we speak or sing and we can do it anywhere at anytime. It's a gift to be used as much as possible. It is given for a reason and allows us to pray from our inner man. For me it is like singing but there is a peace and refreshing that comes from deep inside just like the Bible says about it coming from your belly. It combats stress and washes it away the more I learn about it and use it. God gives us wonderful gifts for our walk with Him. Thank You Lord.
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For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, to whom He said, “This is the rest with which you may cause the weary to rest,” and, “This is the refreshing”... [/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] To counter stress, many people resort to tobacco, alcohol or tranquilizers. These things, besides having harmful side effects, are costly and often lead to addictions.
God has something better for us. It is powerful, costs us nothing and has no harmful side effects. He calls it “the rest” and “the refreshing”. What is He referring to? Speaking in tongues—“For with stammering lips and another tongue…”
One of our church members was on medication for nine long years for a host of problems: severe depression, suicidal thoughts, insomnia, chronic sinusitis, gastritis and panic attacks. Every day, he had to take up to 30 tablets to keep these conditions under control.
He suffered from such bad sinusitis that he had to visit the hospital regularly to drain the mucus. He could not sleep much—at most three hours—even with sleeping pills. And because of his panic attacks, he could not go to work and seldom left his house. His wife had to look after him and their three kids. The side effects of the long-term medication also caused his physique to balloon.
One day, he felt God prompting him to pray in tongues as often as he could. He obeyed. The moment he started to pray in tongues, even though it was just a few syllables, he felt a rest, a peace. This encouraged him to pray in tongues more. And the more he prayed in tongues, the more rest and peace he felt.
His sinuses began to clear up and he was healed of gastritis. Slowly, the fears and panic attacks left him too. He also started to have quality sleep without the sleeping pills! The Lord even taught him how he was to eat—two meals a day, but to eat whatever he wanted. Today, he is back to his normal weight!
Through praying in tongues regularly, God delivered this man from a host of long-term illnesses. My friend, this is the rest and the refreshing which God has promised us. So start praying in tongues regularly, and let His rest and peace saturate your entire being!
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Speaking in tongues is totally in our control and not like I thought it was something that takes over your body. No., you are given this gift when you ask for the baptism of the HolySpirit. You just begin and stop just like we do when we speak or sing and we can do it anywhere at anytime. It's a gift to be used as much as possible. It is given for a reason and allows us to pray from our inner man. For me it is like singing but there is a peace and refreshing that comes from deep inside just like the Bible says about it coming from your belly. It combats stress and washes it away the more I learn about it and use it. God gives us wonderful gifts for our walk with Him. Thank You Lord.
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For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, to whom He said, “This is the rest with which you may cause the weary to rest,” and, “This is the refreshing”... [/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] To counter stress, many people resort to tobacco, alcohol or tranquilizers. These things, besides having harmful side effects, are costly and often lead to addictions.
God has something better for us. It is powerful, costs us nothing and has no harmful side effects. He calls it “the rest” and “the refreshing”. What is He referring to? Speaking in tongues—“For with stammering lips and another tongue…”
One of our church members was on medication for nine long years for a host of problems: severe depression, suicidal thoughts, insomnia, chronic sinusitis, gastritis and panic attacks. Every day, he had to take up to 30 tablets to keep these conditions under control.
He suffered from such bad sinusitis that he had to visit the hospital regularly to drain the mucus. He could not sleep much—at most three hours—even with sleeping pills. And because of his panic attacks, he could not go to work and seldom left his house. His wife had to look after him and their three kids. The side effects of the long-term medication also caused his physique to balloon.
One day, he felt God prompting him to pray in tongues as often as he could. He obeyed. The moment he started to pray in tongues, even though it was just a few syllables, he felt a rest, a peace. This encouraged him to pray in tongues more. And the more he prayed in tongues, the more rest and peace he felt.
His sinuses began to clear up and he was healed of gastritis. Slowly, the fears and panic attacks left him too. He also started to have quality sleep without the sleeping pills! The Lord even taught him how he was to eat—two meals a day, but to eat whatever he wanted. Today, he is back to his normal weight!
Through praying in tongues regularly, God delivered this man from a host of long-term illnesses. My friend, this is the rest and the refreshing which God has promised us. So start praying in tongues regularly, and let His rest and peace saturate your entire being!
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While reading over some of the previous posts., it's important to note that there are 2 different kinds of speaking in tongues. I have not been speaking in tongues long and have not ever prayed or spoken in tongues with another believer. It's been only during my alone times with God and in my daily living when going about my day. Below is a good explanation of the differences.
Note 13 at Mr 16:17: Speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit discussed in 1Co 12-14. It is one of the first miraculous manifestations that accompanies receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost (Ac 2:4, 10:46, and 19:6).
There are two different kinds of speaking in tongues. 1Co 13:1 says we can speak with the tongues of man or of angels. The tongues of men is speaking of known languages such as what took place on the Day of Pentecost (Ac 2:4-6). This is the gift to supernaturally speak a known language without having been taught it, and it comes for the purpose of witnessing, as on the Day of Pentecost. There is also a gift of tongues that is speaking in a heavenly language (what 1Co 13:1 calls the tongues of angels). This is a language that is not known to the speaker (1Co 14:2 and 14) but allows the believer to communicate directly with the Lord through the Spirit. There is another kind of speaking in tongues that equals prophecy if it is interpreted (1Co 14:5).
Not every believer will speak in known languages, as on the Day of Pentecost, or prophesy in the assembly through a message in tongues and an interpretation (1Co 12:30), but every believer who receives the baptism of the Holy Ghost can speak in the tongues that are for the purpose of edification (1Co 14:4).
Bible commentary.
Note 13 at Mr 16:17: Speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit discussed in 1Co 12-14. It is one of the first miraculous manifestations that accompanies receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost (Ac 2:4, 10:46, and 19:6).
There are two different kinds of speaking in tongues. 1Co 13:1 says we can speak with the tongues of man or of angels. The tongues of men is speaking of known languages such as what took place on the Day of Pentecost (Ac 2:4-6). This is the gift to supernaturally speak a known language without having been taught it, and it comes for the purpose of witnessing, as on the Day of Pentecost. There is also a gift of tongues that is speaking in a heavenly language (what 1Co 13:1 calls the tongues of angels). This is a language that is not known to the speaker (1Co 14:2 and 14) but allows the believer to communicate directly with the Lord through the Spirit. There is another kind of speaking in tongues that equals prophecy if it is interpreted (1Co 14:5).
Not every believer will speak in known languages, as on the Day of Pentecost, or prophesy in the assembly through a message in tongues and an interpretation (1Co 12:30), but every believer who receives the baptism of the Holy Ghost can speak in the tongues that are for the purpose of edification (1Co 14:4).
Bible commentary.
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Hi Lynn
What do you think of this stuff? 1. Reformation Study Bible
while the addition “and of angels” may be a deliberate exaggeration (similarly with “understand all mysteries” and “remove mountains”). Whether the Corinthians claimed to use angelic speech is impossible to determine (12:10 note).
12:10 various kinds of tongues. The proper description of this gift has generated much debate. According to one view, it refers to some kind of ecstatic speech, possibly related to “the tongues . . . of angels” mentioned in 13:1. On the other hand, the New Testament gives explicit and unequivocal evidence that the Holy Spirit granted to the early Christians the ability to speak in foreign, human languages (Acts 2:4–11). Though objections can be raised against this view as well (14:2 note), it can at least be supported by biblical precedent.
2. NIV Application Commentary
“Tongues of angels” probably refers to the Corinthians’ estimation of this gift.
3. Matthew Henry's Commentary (does not specify what "tongues of angels" means, but instead focuses on the main theme of the passage: these gifts, without love are nothing)
Could a man speak all the languages on earth, and that with the greatest propriety, elegance, and fluency, could he talk like an angel, and yet be without charity, it would be all empty noise, mere unharmonious and useless sound, that would neither profit nor delight.
4. Asbury Bible Commentary
The singular point of this paragraph is that no spiritual gift nor any other human achievement, for that matter, is evidence of the Spirit-filled life; Christian love is.
Ch. 13 presents in three parts the excellence of Christian love personified by comparison to every gift and all other human values. The first (13:1-3) explains love's necessity; the second (vv. 4-7) describes its activity; the third (vv. 8-13) affirms its eternity and superiority to all other values.
5. Dictionary of Bible Themes
[h=3]7972 tongues, gift of[/h]The divine enabling of a believer to use a language, unknown to the speaker. The gift of tongues may be used to praise God or to utter a message from God that, supplemented by the gift of interpretation of tongues, edifies other believers. Note that “tongues” can simply mean “other languages” at times.
[h=4]Tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit[/h]It is given to individual believers Ac 2:4 See also 1Co 12:11,30 it is not universal among Christians
It was foretold in the OT 1Co 14:21; Isa 28:11
It is a divine gift in response to faith Mk 16:17
It may be given through the laying on of hands Ac 19:6
It is a sign of the presence of the Holy Spirit Ac 10:44-46
[h=4]Tongues in relation to other gifts[/h]The need for love 1Co 13:1
The need for prophecy 1Co 14:4-6
The need for intelligibility See also 1Co 14:9,13,16-19,23
The need for interpretation 1Co 12:8-10; 1Co 14:12-13
The transience of tongues 1Co 13:8
[h=4]The use of tongues within the church[/h]In prayer and praise See also Ro 8:26; 1Co 14:14-15,26,28;Eph 6:18; Jude 20
For the benefit of believers 1Co 12:7-10 See also 1Co 14:5,16-17,26
In public it needs to be augmented by the gift of interpretation 1Co 14:26-28 See also 1Co 12:30; 1Co 14:5,13