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my take on this… hmm, interesting points there… but, as i always say, i cannot possibly comment. its just too much. but i do agree that people have the capability of leaving Christianity because of the fact they weren't truly saved in the first place. but i have heard of holy spirit-filled christians who have totaly left the Lord. what is known as apostasy... anyway… i wasnt even suppose to comment 
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Gabriel, we are all wrong when it comes to understanding things perfectly. They say that one can read the word of God and understand it one way, then come back and read it again and understand it in another way.
Yes it can mean what you say it means, it can also mean what I say it means, and still it can mean something else
That's why it is called the living word of God, because it is alive.
Yes it can mean what you say it means, it can also mean what I say it means, and still it can mean something else
That's why it is called the living word of God, because it is alive.
Number 3. Hell theology: This theology has done so much damage to so many people, they can not stay with a God who would burn or hurt them or anyone else.
On the other hand, who would ever want to worship a God who allows will to be done to innocent people, and then say " no punishment necassary even though you raped and Killed this kid" hell has a great purpose its home for those who do the will of satan. and its extremely Just. whop would deserve to burn and suffer? look into the depth of mans darkness and you will see.
what does a just and righteous God do, when 2 grown men torture a Baby, take bites out of it, burn its body with cigareets, toss it to the ceailing and let it fall until she eventually dies without a name what Does God do with the beasts such as the stepfather and uncle of "Baby Brianna"?
i think any decent Human being, can understand there are some people who deserve the very worst imaginable punishment, and sure God is Good, thats why those who do evil will have to face the consequences. Hell doesnt scare people who do good, it scares those who Love evil because they Know they will not repent, therefore Hell must be unjust......
im assuming you are atheist. so this is basically a wasted minute typing this. lets say you were the authority.....would youtreat the victims of evil acts , and those who freely chose to do those terrible things the same way? probably 100s of millions of victimes and hundreds of millions of evil doers who raped, hurt, killed, tortured, and a hundred other things...
in what realm of Justice or Love, do the evil doers and the perpetrators treated as if they are both innocent. in bizarro world only. i for One am Glad theres ultimate and final Justice. a man may elude mans Justice on earth, but then they have to face the One who cant be hidden from. I Love that God will utterly destroy and punish Evil, its what Makes Him good, and what promises an eternity free of evil.
The word of God also say , get wisdom, then knowledge, and above all these, understanding. Those are free gifts from God for those that want it. your mind is taking you through a possibility cycle like a roulette machine, not knowing where it is going to stop. you waiver while seeking for answers. Leaning to your own understanding. It is about what sounds right to you.
Are you implying that the fault lies with Christianity?
That the churches are to blame, because they are lacking in someway.
And yet I say to you that those that are dissatisfied with a particular church,
if they truly are seeking God, will not leave Christianity for unbelief,
but rather they will go church shopping until they find their haven.
What does Jesus say about those who give up and walk away?
16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground;
who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward,
when affliction or persecution arises for the word's sake, immediately
they are offended.
18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of
other things entering in, choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Mark 4:
That the churches are to blame, because they are lacking in someway.
And yet I say to you that those that are dissatisfied with a particular church,
if they truly are seeking God, will not leave Christianity for unbelief,
but rather they will go church shopping until they find their haven.
What does Jesus say about those who give up and walk away?
16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground;
who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward,
when affliction or persecution arises for the word's sake, immediately
they are offended.
18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of
other things entering in, choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Mark 4:
Atheists and non believers have not left God.
Atheists come against God and try to prove him wrong.
Non believers are just that.
So neither can walk away from what they believe unless they come to Jesus.
Rather then focus on atheists maybe research atheists who came to faith. And see their very good reasons that led them to faith.
Your 5 reasons above.
Christians saying that or atheists and non believers?
Atheists come against God and try to prove him wrong.
Non believers are just that.
So neither can walk away from what they believe unless they come to Jesus.
Rather then focus on atheists maybe research atheists who came to faith. And see their very good reasons that led them to faith.
Your 5 reasons above.
Christians saying that or atheists and non believers?
Satan attacks our minds and our sins also lead us to stray out of finding God's will for our lives. I know...because I've been there and done it!
Look, if you aren't diligently reading His word, seeking Him, spending time in prayer, spending too much time with non-believers...in other words not coming out from among wordly things and increasing Him and decreasing self...how are you going to build a relationship with Him and come to realize what real perfect love and blessings are?
You must remember that
1. christians are fallible
2. the bible is not inconsistent....His word is perfect...but you have to read it, study it and allow the His Spirit guide you.
3. there is a hell...do you really want to find out for yourself? just like there's a hell...there's a heaven, which sounds awesome to me
4. God performs miracles everyday...open your eyes...but this is a fallen world we live in...bad things happen because of sin...best part of that is that God uses those bad things to draw people to Him....this is fact and I know...been there
5. God's character...goes back to not having a personal relationship...He wrapped Himself in flesh and was born, crucified, and raised from the dead because He loves us and wants to save us from the sin we inherited through Adam.
SATAN/SIN and our own stubborn, hard headed pride and lack of FAITH and TRUST in Christ....theres your reaasons!
Good Question...God bless...and much love
Look, if you aren't diligently reading His word, seeking Him, spending time in prayer, spending too much time with non-believers...in other words not coming out from among wordly things and increasing Him and decreasing self...how are you going to build a relationship with Him and come to realize what real perfect love and blessings are?
You must remember that
1. christians are fallible
2. the bible is not inconsistent....His word is perfect...but you have to read it, study it and allow the His Spirit guide you.
3. there is a hell...do you really want to find out for yourself? just like there's a hell...there's a heaven, which sounds awesome to me
4. God performs miracles everyday...open your eyes...but this is a fallen world we live in...bad things happen because of sin...best part of that is that God uses those bad things to draw people to Him....this is fact and I know...been there
5. God's character...goes back to not having a personal relationship...He wrapped Himself in flesh and was born, crucified, and raised from the dead because He loves us and wants to save us from the sin we inherited through Adam.
SATAN/SIN and our own stubborn, hard headed pride and lack of FAITH and TRUST in Christ....theres your reaasons!
Good Question...God bless...and much love
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