Trinity Questions
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John 17v1: "Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come....
The Scriptures clearly teach that the Lord Jesus in His Incarnation was praying to His Father and NOT (in ANY way) to Himself!
If you go down the road (by twisting the Scriptures) that He was praying to Himself, then you are into the destructive heresy of, "Modalistic Monarchian," which the early Church indeed did condemn as "destructive heresy."
Any person holding such views were excommunicated by the early Church, so maybe you might want to go and do an honest study on The Trinity!
The Scriptures clearly teach that the Lord Jesus in His Incarnation was praying to His Father and NOT (in ANY way) to Himself!
If you go down the road (by twisting the Scriptures) that He was praying to Himself, then you are into the destructive heresy of, "Modalistic Monarchian," which the early Church indeed did condemn as "destructive heresy."
Any person holding such views were excommunicated by the early Church, so maybe you might want to go and do an honest study on The Trinity!
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Relax, champ. I'm just offering ideas.
The amount of Keyboard Warriors, here, is just staggering.
Now, do you ever talk to your body, saying something like, "Come on hands! Do what you're supposed to do!" Do you ever reference your body as you talk to others? When they ask, "How are you doing?" and you respond with, "Well, not so good. I've got a terrible headache."
When you're really happy, and someone asks, "How are you today?" Do you ever reply in reference to your mood and say, "I'm doing great! I feel so happy today!" Your mood is not your body.
So which one are you? Are you body, spirit, or mind? Right . . . you are all three, yet all three are totally, one hundred percent distinct from each other.
Like I said, I'm just offering ideas.
The amount of Keyboard Warriors, here, is just staggering.
Now, do you ever talk to your body, saying something like, "Come on hands! Do what you're supposed to do!" Do you ever reference your body as you talk to others? When they ask, "How are you doing?" and you respond with, "Well, not so good. I've got a terrible headache."
When you're really happy, and someone asks, "How are you today?" Do you ever reply in reference to your mood and say, "I'm doing great! I feel so happy today!" Your mood is not your body.
So which one are you? Are you body, spirit, or mind? Right . . . you are all three, yet all three are totally, one hundred percent distinct from each other.
Like I said, I'm just offering ideas.
Yeah, it definitely does. I think this is just a matter of semantics, as “Trinity” and “three PERSONs” cause confusion. Compared to that, “godhead” and “three aspects” are much better. I wrote a thread about the godhead in the first three verses of the whole Bible. Unfortunately, in history many Jews and also Muslims couldn’t wrap their heads around the concept of incarnation, that the word could ever become flesh, therefore you can see this attitude even during Jesus’s ministry, that He was widely revered by the Pharisees and the multitude as a prophet from God, but never the son of God, because “son of God” was blasphemy to them.
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I'm not playing games with you.
If you believe that Jesus disobeyed any of God's commandments, which was your initial question that you asked, then just simply say so.
If not, then you can continue to waste your time here listening to yourself talk.
I took the bait (and fearlessly, I might add)...hurry before I swim back out to sea.
I'm not playing games with you.
If you believe that Jesus disobeyed any of God's commandments, which was your initial question that you asked, then just simply say so.
If not, then you can continue to waste your time here listening to yourself talk.
I took the bait (and fearlessly, I might add)...hurry before I swim back out to sea.
