Here are some thoughts/questions how this one small change in teaching can cause so many problems, and you really need to sit and ponder about each question asked below:-
1. If God is Jesus Christ, why did He create Himself and sent Himself down to earth to reveal Himself to mankind. Could He not have done it Himself without creating another image of Himself and sending Himself to earth? Joh 8:42; Joh 17:3, 21,23 My questions sound weird? Yes, because that is the impression you are creating when you are saying that Jesus is God. Here are some more.
2. Why did God instruct Himself to go to earth to teach mankind about Himself and to reveal who Satan is? Joh 14:31
3. If God is Jesus Christ, why did He call Himself Son of God when He was baptized and said, this is My Son in whom I am pleased? How could He have spoken from heaven to Himself on earth in such a way that all the disciples and people heard Him? Mar 1:11
4. Why did God refer to Himself as His beloved Son on the mountain before some of the disciples? Mat 17:5
5. Why did God go down on His knees to pray to Himself in heaven just before His crucifixion, asking that He Himself remove the cup from Himself but that His own will be done? Luk 22:41-42
6. Why did God say to Himself, My God, My God, why has Thou forsaken me? Mat 27:46; Mar 15:34
7. Why would the Bible teach us to thank God for everything in the Name of Jesus Christ if He was God? Eph 5:20
8. Why did God say to the people that He came to preach to them the kingdom of Himself and that He was sent by Himself? Luk 4:43; Luk 8:1
9. Why did God say that He will sit on His own right hand side if He is one and the same? Luk 22:69; Heb 2:16-17; Heb 8:1; 1 Pet 3:22 He also sits as the High Priest. Heb 5:5; Heb 8:1
10. Why would God receive the Holy Spirit God from God or Himself? Joh 14:10; Joh 16:13-15
11. God did not exist as God until He has been exalted by Himself? Joh 7:39
12. There is one God and He is the Mediator between Himself and mankind? 1 Tim 2:5; Joh 14:6
13. Why did God resurrect Himself, that cannot die, but did, and why was it necessary if He was alive but also dead? Col 2:12; Act 13:30,33; Psm 2:7
14. Why did God say to Himself whoever does not honour God Himself does not honour God who sent Himself? Joh 5:23
15. Why would God send Himself to this earth to die for our sins? 1 Joh 4:10
16. Why does the Bible teach that God died on the cross as man, as God cannot die? 1 Tim 2:5; Luk 23:47; Mark 15:39
There are many more texts I can provide from the Bible that will sound ridiculous to say the least, to substitute Jesus with God and to say that They are one and the same entity as you have done. The Bible has been given to us to study the Word of God and it has been confirmed by many across the world that that is all we need to find the Truth. There are no uncertainties who Jesus Christ is and who God is. They are two individual entities and once you have that understanding and accept it, will you be able to explain the problems texts that you now have above. Some texts you may read to see that They are indeed two individual entities are Mat 27:54; Joh 1:9,34-37; 1 Cor 8:6, 1 Cor 3:23 and not one God.
If you still believe that Jesus is God the Father, then you need to explain every text listed above to prove that your teaching is correct.
Incidentally, the Bible teaches us that the one who does not believe that Jesus is the Christ, is the antichrist and a liar. 1 Joh 2:22. The Bible does not teach that the one who does not believe that Jesus is God, is the antichrist and a liar.
It has been my experience that one who asks a multitude of questions in a post, is NOT trying to carry on a discussion but rather just trying to stir up dissension. By asking them the way you did, you make it very clear that you do not intend on listening to any of my answers, therefore it would not be my Lord's will for me to waste my time on a Scoffer, who has already hardened his heart.
Here is why you do not believe in the TRINITY:
1 Corinthians 2:10-16 (HCSB)
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10 [/SUP]Now God has revealed ⌊these things⌋ to us by the Spirit, for the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.
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11 [/SUP]For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man that is in him? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
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12 [/SUP]Now we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who ⌊comes⌋ from God, so that we may understand what has been freely given to us by God.
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13 [/SUP]We also speak these things, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual things to spiritual people.
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14 [/SUP]But the unbeliever does not welcome what comes from God’s Spirit,
because it is foolishness to him;
he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually.
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15 [/SUP]The spiritual person, however, can evaluate everything, yet he himself cannot be evaluated by anyone.
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16 [/SUP]For who has known the Lord’s mind, that he may instruct Him?
But we have the mind of Christ.
Now I will answer two questions, of my choice; and knowing you will not listen, so afterwards, it would be pleasing to my LORD to kick dust from my feet, stop reading your posts, and go on to someone who really wants to learn.
1. If God is Jesus Christ, why did He create Himself and sent Himself down to earth to reveal Himself to mankind?
BECAUSE, GOD IS AN ETERNAL SPIRIT and that includes the pre-incarnate Christ, He had to become a man to experience death, fulfilling HIS OWN REQUIREMENT to pay for sins. GOD is LOVE, and HE believes that there is NO GREATER LOVE than a man lay down HIS life for a friend. God therefore had to create in the womb of Mary a body that part of HIMSELF could enter and die for the sins of the world; or else GOD's LOVE is less than what a man can do. AN ETERNAL GOD cannot die, but when HE indwells the human body that the HOLY SPIRIT (also part of GOD) created, HE THEN CAN DIE becoming the ULTITMATE example of LOVE.
15. Why would God send Himself to this earth to die for our sins?
John 1:1 (HCSB)
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1 [/SUP] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
the Word was God.
John 1:14 (HCSB)
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The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Revelation 19:13 (HCSB)
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He wore a robe stained with blood, and His name is the Word of God.
John 3:16 (ESV)
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“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Hebrews 9:22 (NIV)
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22 [/SUP] In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and
without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Hebrews 9:24-26 (NIV)
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24 [/SUP] For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence.
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25 [/SUP] Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own.
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26 [/SUP] Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages
to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.
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For those who are just reading these posts, we were warned about those who would in these last days come to Scoff and to stir up division among the Brethren. I recommend that you just ignore this one's posts:
2 Peter 3:3 (HCSB)
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3 [/SUP] First, be aware of this:
Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
Titus 3:9-11 (NKJV)
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9 [/SUP] But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.
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Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition,
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11 [/SUP] knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned.
Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV)
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16 [/SUP] There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him:
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17 [/SUP] haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,
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18 [/SUP] a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,
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19 [/SUP] a false witness who pours out lies and
a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
