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Yes...let's see what PAUL has to say...
The NT, just like the OT, is clear that we need to worship God as He has revealed Himself – which is Triune.
Paul clearly distanced himself from his unbelieving Jewish brethren by his following belief declaration:
But I confess this to you that according to the Way, which they say is a sect, so I worship the ancestral God believing all things according to that having been written in the Law and the Prophets, having hope toward God, which these themselves also admit, of a resurrection being about to be of the dead, both of just and unjust ones.(Acts 24.14)
Clearly, Paul builds upon the previous Hebrew prophets and is now able to worship God properly ‘according to The Way’ and according to that which had previously been written in the Torah and the prophets.
Obviously, Paul is able to see what his Jewish brethren have missed.Jews have been in denial of proper worship of God – and ‘The Way’ has laid the foundation for proper worship to God.
Proper worship of God:
But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father also seeks such, the ones worshiping Him. God is spirit, and the ones worshiping Him must worship in spirit and truth.
(John 4.23 - 24)
This proper worship is as a Triune entity:
- Father
- Son (Truth)
- Spirit
Further, the Book of Revelation shows us clearly the deity interchangeability between Father, Son and Spirit and amply demonstrates that each receives worship as the one God.
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[h=1]Matthew 16:13-17King James Version (KJV)[/h]13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Re: Watch and learn, sis...
Is YOUR Bible the words mandated by God himself?
What about 1John 5:7???
7"" For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."'
If you are using a KJV then this is in your Bible.
But you know that 1John 5:7 has been throughly trashed by scholars as being a spurious verse.
The manuscripts that are used to translate our Bibles date hundreds of years after Jesus walked the earth.
How do we know that there aren't other spurious verses such as 1John 5:7 and Matthew 28:19 which were edited into the Bible by zealous trinitarians?
We have to remember that for about 1600 years the Roman Catholic Church was the keeper of the New Testament Scriptures.
The monks copied the texts and destroyed the older texts and very few people knew how to read, or even read Greek, so no one was watching if the monks made any corrections.
The Roman Catholic Church was the inventor and distributer of Trinitarian thought with a little help from the Emperor Constantine at the council of Nicea.
Here is proof that the Roman Catholic Church sponsored forgery.
Donation of Constantine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is YOUR Bible the words mandated by God himself?
What about 1John 5:7???
7"" For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."'
If you are using a KJV then this is in your Bible.
But you know that 1John 5:7 has been throughly trashed by scholars as being a spurious verse.
The manuscripts that are used to translate our Bibles date hundreds of years after Jesus walked the earth.
How do we know that there aren't other spurious verses such as 1John 5:7 and Matthew 28:19 which were edited into the Bible by zealous trinitarians?
We have to remember that for about 1600 years the Roman Catholic Church was the keeper of the New Testament Scriptures.
The monks copied the texts and destroyed the older texts and very few people knew how to read, or even read Greek, so no one was watching if the monks made any corrections.
The Roman Catholic Church was the inventor and distributer of Trinitarian thought with a little help from the Emperor Constantine at the council of Nicea.
Here is proof that the Roman Catholic Church sponsored forgery.
Donation of Constantine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I didn't overlook it.
A man is 3 parts according to 1Thess 5:23 A spirit soul and body.
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
If only Jesus' body died then Jesus was only 33% dead.
If a person dies as a sacrifice wouldn't you expect him to die completely?
A man is 3 parts according to 1Thess 5:23 A spirit soul and body.
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
If only Jesus' body died then Jesus was only 33% dead.
If a person dies as a sacrifice wouldn't you expect him to die completely?
Gen 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
The Christian assumption is that “us” refers to the trinity, the Father , son, and holy ghost.
But is there any evidence to believe that this is the correct interpretation?
Perhaps there are other explanations for the use of a plural pronoun “us”
The word “God” in this verse is the plural word “elohim” In only four places in the Bible does “elohim” use a plural pronoun , but in hundreds of places “elohim” uses a singular pronoun. Is this a scribal error here at Gen 1:26? Or were the first Hebrews polytheists who believed in “gods” and only later began to believe in one god and this verse is a carry over from the days when the Hebrews were polytheists.
Another possibility is that God is speaking to his army of angels in this verse. We know God is a spirit, man is not, Jesus had not yet been born as a man, and angels have often been mistaken for men in the Bible.
At the site of Jesus’ tomb in Matthew’s gospel the women speak to an angel. But in Mark’s gospel the women speak to a young man.
The Jews are monotheists and this verse did not seem to upset their theology. Perhaps they have an explanation that does not involve a trinity.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
The Christian assumption is that “us” refers to the trinity, the Father , son, and holy ghost.
But is there any evidence to believe that this is the correct interpretation?
Perhaps there are other explanations for the use of a plural pronoun “us”
The word “God” in this verse is the plural word “elohim” In only four places in the Bible does “elohim” use a plural pronoun , but in hundreds of places “elohim” uses a singular pronoun. Is this a scribal error here at Gen 1:26? Or were the first Hebrews polytheists who believed in “gods” and only later began to believe in one god and this verse is a carry over from the days when the Hebrews were polytheists.
Another possibility is that God is speaking to his army of angels in this verse. We know God is a spirit, man is not, Jesus had not yet been born as a man, and angels have often been mistaken for men in the Bible.
At the site of Jesus’ tomb in Matthew’s gospel the women speak to an angel. But in Mark’s gospel the women speak to a young man.
The Jews are monotheists and this verse did not seem to upset their theology. Perhaps they have an explanation that does not involve a trinity.
Re: Watch and learn, sis...
Yes.
1 John 5.7 is not part of the original text, as any serious scholar already knows.
So...?
The Trinity does NOT reside upon one verse....it is an epithet describing the WHOLE of scripture.
You Trinity-deniers are all alike.
Stamped-out in cookie-cutter fashion...
By examining the extant manuscripts.
By your reasoning, then Moses' description of creation is entirely incorrect because he was not there to witness it....but only wrote about it billions of years AFTER the event took place.
Come on....
I'm not Catholic.
Yes.
1 John 5.7 is not part of the original text, as any serious scholar already knows.
So...?
The Trinity does NOT reside upon one verse....it is an epithet describing the WHOLE of scripture.
You Trinity-deniers are all alike.
Stamped-out in cookie-cutter fashion...
By examining the extant manuscripts.
By your reasoning, then Moses' description of creation is entirely incorrect because he was not there to witness it....but only wrote about it billions of years AFTER the event took place.
Come on....
I'm not Catholic.
Now you know that I do not have time to answer every point you make in your post.
But let me choose one to answer as a representative of your poor scholarship.
The Malek Elohim ‘The Messenger of God’ (Gen 21.17; 31.11)
Genesis 21:17
God heard the lad crying; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter with you, Hagar? Do not fear, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Genesis 31:11
Then the angel of God said to me in the dream, ‘Jacob,’ and I said, ‘Here I am.’
Are you saying that Jesus is an angel? If one of Jehovah's witnesses made that claim you would be all over him saying "Jesus is not an Angel."
Hebrews 1:5
For to which of the angels did He ever say,“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
But let me choose one to answer as a representative of your poor scholarship.
The Malek Elohim ‘The Messenger of God’ (Gen 21.17; 31.11)
Genesis 21:17
God heard the lad crying; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter with you, Hagar? Do not fear, for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Genesis 31:11
Then the angel of God said to me in the dream, ‘Jacob,’ and I said, ‘Here I am.’
Are you saying that Jesus is an angel? If one of Jehovah's witnesses made that claim you would be all over him saying "Jesus is not an Angel."
Hebrews 1:5
For to which of the angels did He ever say,“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
John 10:30New American Standard Bible (NASB)
30 I and the Father are one.”
John 17:20-22New American Standard Bible (NASB)
20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word; 21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.22 The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
Are Jesus and his disciples also one?
Individuals can be of one as being in agreement intellectually.
Matthew 26:36-44New American Standard Bible (NASB)
36 Then Jesus *came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and *said to His disciples, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.” 37 And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be grieved and distressed. 38 Then He *said to them, “My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death; remain here and keep watch with Me.”
39 And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” 40 And He *came to the disciples and *found them sleeping, and *said to Peter, “So, you men could not keep watch with Me for one hour? 41 Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
42 He went away again a second time and prayed, saying, “My Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done.” 43 Again He came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. 44 And He left them again, and went away and prayed a third time, saying the same thing once more.
If Jesus were God why would he be praying to God?
36 Then Jesus *came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and *said to His disciples, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.” 37 And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be grieved and distressed. 38 Then He *said to them, “My soul is deeply grieved, to the point of death; remain here and keep watch with Me.”
39 And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.” 40 And He *came to the disciples and *found them sleeping, and *said to Peter, “So, you men could not keep watch with Me for one hour? 41 Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
42 He went away again a second time and prayed, saying, “My Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done.” 43 Again He came and found them sleeping, for their eyes were heavy. 44 And He left them again, and went away and prayed a third time, saying the same thing once more.
If Jesus were God why would he be praying to God?