Understanding God’s election

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Rufus

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[QUOTE="cv5, post: 5430414, member: 277646"]Sniff sniff.
So you are telling me that you won't free the slaves without a fight? [/QUOTE]

Now, he's in want of a hanky...or a nose that works properly. But even worse, he wants to drag me into his delusions. :rolleyes:
 

Rufus

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Deleted by fire.
Was wood, hay, and stubble...
Which would be the fate of your foolish theory about the Isrealites being the only ones who will occupy the restored earth if you ever get back to us and tell us what you found in Rev 21-22.
 
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Plus, if being given to Christ were based upon free-will it would reduce the Father to merely the conduit of the process.
I think if we read Ephesians 1 and Romans 5 those verses sustains the reason why all the other passages tell us God must lead us to Jesus .
 

Genez

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Which would be the fate of your foolish theory about the Isrealites being the only ones who will occupy the restored earth if you ever get back to us and tell us what you found in Rev 21-22.
You keep getting it wrong....

Why?
 
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Yeah. Bring the world salad out and obfuscate the clear and intended meaning. Souls are at stake. That's what matters. Souls, they don't mean much in calvies theology. Their theology is what matters.
ALL people, EVERYWHERE at ANYTIME can Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation. Stop hindering this TRUTH from lost souls.
John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 12:32
And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.”

John 18:8-9
And He, when He comes, will convict the world regarding sin, and righteousness, and judgment:
regarding sin, because they do not believe in Me;

2 Cor 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Acts 16:31~~~Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved......

Equal privilege, equal opportunity for ALL.

SO sad.I mean SO SAD that CHRISTIANS deny this. We are in the end times.
Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
 

Rufus

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You keep getting it wrong....

Why?
The much better question would be: Why are you ignoring the two last chapters in Revelation? You don't like what you find in there, do you? In fact, you're a master at ignoring my questions altogether or at deflection.

You have ignored my questions about the "1,000-year earthly kingdom". Will that kingdom represent the new order of things or will the kingdom still be in the old order? Will there still be sin in the world? Will there still be death in the world or not?

You're acting like a dead person who has no ability to answer questions, especially tough ones (which big, bad "bullies" like myself are most prone to ask).
 

Rufus

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Oh...before I run off and forget....Happy New Year to One and to All. May the good Lord (the only Good there is in this universe) CAUSE each of to grow in Grace and Knowledge of Him throughout the upcoming year.
 
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Oh...before I run off and forget....Happy New Year to One and to All. May the good Lord (the only Good there is in this universe) CAUSE each of to grow in Grace and Knowledge of Him throughout the upcoming year.
Happy New Year, (since I will be doing well to stay awake to 10:00 :^)
 

Genez

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The much better question would be: Why are you ignoring the two last chapters in Revelation? You don't like what you find in there, do you? In fact, you're a master at ignoring my questions altogether or at deflection.

You have ignored my questions about the "1,000-year earthly kingdom". Will that kingdom represent the new order of things or will the kingdom still be in the old order? Will there still be sin in the world? Will there still be death in the world or not?

You're acting like a dead person who has no ability to answer questions, especially tough ones (which big, bad "bullies" like myself are most prone to ask).

Come on Rufus...

Let's deal with what you told me, about what you say I said....

Here are your words:

Which would be the fate of your foolish theory about the Isrealites being the only ones who will occupy the restored earth if you ever get back to us and tell us what you found in Rev 21-22.


I did not say, Israelites will be the only ones to occupy the restored earth.
I said they will occupy the New Israel with the New Jerusalem.

The rest of the new world will consist of nations occupied by gentiles who will survive the Tribulation.

And... at that time...

The Jews will have become once more God's role model for all the nations ...

Here is Scripture for that.


This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations
will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we
have heard that God is with you.’” Zechariah 8:23​


.......
 

cv5

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Here are your words:

Which would be the fate of your foolish theory about the Isrealites being the only ones who will occupy the restored earth if you ever get back to us and tell us what you found in Rev 21-22.


I did not say, Israelites will be the only ones to occupy the restored earth.
I said they will occupy the New Israel with the New Jerusalem.

The rest of the new world will consist of nations occupied by gentiles who will survive the Tribulation.

The Jews will have become once more God's role model for all the nations ...
.......
That's the program alright.
Rufus screwed up again did he? Pity.
 
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Yeah. Bring the world salad out and obfuscate the clear and intended meaning. Souls are at stake. That's what matters. Souls, they don't mean much in calvies theology. Their theology is what matters.
ALL people, EVERYWHERE at ANYTIME can Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation. Stop hindering this TRUTH from lost souls.
John 10:30
I and the Father are one.”

John 12:32
And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.”

John 18:8-9
And He, when He comes, will convict the world regarding sin, and righteousness, and judgment:
regarding sin, because they do not believe in Me;

2 Cor 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Acts 16:31~~~Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved......

Equal privilege, equal opportunity for ALL.

SO sad.I mean SO SAD that CHRISTIANS deny this. We are in the end times.
No word salad. Nothing is obfuscated. The passages I cited are quite clear.
 
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Oh...before I run off and forget....Happy New Year to One and to All. May the good Lord (the only Good there is in this universe) CAUSE each of to grow in Grace and Knowledge of Him throughout the upcoming year.
Amen, and may God continue to richly bless you, Rufus! Thank you for being
such a valiant defender of the once for all faith delivered to the saints...



Happy New Year 2025
:)
 

Rufus

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Happy New Year, (since I will be doing well to stay awake to 10:00 :^)
Now, that's funny. :LOL: I was up to about 10:30 last night which was past my usual bedtime which commonly is between 9 and 9:30. Of course, the fireworks had something to do with that.