Was Adam and Eve a newer creation than genesis 1?

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Child0fYAHUAH said:
Do a simple test take a sheet of paper & draw a line down the middle. On the left side Genesis 1 day by day, then Genesis 2 day by day on the right & you will see the differences clearly.
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I think I see the differences. For a long time now.
 
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Adam simply means man.... mankind was created 1st, male & female & was not made from the dust & were told to be fruitful & multiply. THE man, Adam was formed from the dust & had the breath of life breathed into him by God & became a living soul. Then God placed him in the Garden to take care of it. These 2 creations of 2 distinct types of man were on different days. Technically there are 3 creations since Eve was created from Adam's rib & also did not have the breath of life from God!
 
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Child0fYAHUAH said:
Read it for yourself, it is plainly written
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Genesis 2 brings into focus the same creation of man that was given in Genesis 1, in the same way that the appearance of Christ brings into focus the mercy and salvation of God that had been described in the law & the prophets.

Genesis 2 is not a 'second creation of man' any more than Jesus is a 'different' God manifest in the flesh.
 
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calibob said:
I believe that Genesis 1 and gen. 2 were two different creations. The NIV is a translation, not a paraphrase.

KJV 1611; Genesis 1:29-31 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.2Genesis 2:1-9 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

NIV 1974; Genesis 1:29-31 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every green plant for food." And it was so. 31God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning-the sixth day.2:1-9 1Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. 4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. 5Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 8Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground-trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Adam was a newer, more special creation than before. Created for the purpose of tending to Gods garden with new rules. Adam & Eve and their descendants may have replaced the earlier primates that were later destroyed by the flood.
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it overlaps chapter one is like an overview of what God did to create everything . In the first chapter it’s comprehensive we see the creation of the universe the stars the earth the atmosphere , the animals , people ect

chapter two zooms in on mans creation to start giving us understanding of our makeup and design showing the two parts flesh and spirit .

it zooms on like this because it applies to us ( mankind) and is important to the understandings we learn later in scripture .

the two chapters are actuakly
Ot supposed to be divided where they are so it makes it confusing

Chapter one should end here

“Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then two should begin here

“These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

See how that brings you back to the beginning ? And then you see a closer view of mans creation and then the story begins to focus on on mankind’s relationship with God , and what happened that we now need to be saved

see here also it brings you back on time to before they were done

“And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that point is when he decided this

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and then you have the zoomed in view of how he formed and made us
 
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calibob said:
I believe that Genesis 1 and gen. 2 were two different creations. The NIV is a translation, not a paraphrase.

KJV 1611; Genesis 1:29-31 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.2Genesis 2:1-9 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. 9And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

NIV 1974; Genesis 1:29-31 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every green plant for food." And it was so. 31God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning-the sixth day.2:1-9 1Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. 2By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. 4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. 5Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 8Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground-trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Adam was a newer, more special creation than before. Created for the purpose of tending to Gods garden with new rules. Adam & Eve and their descendants may have replaced the earlier primates that were later destroyed by the flood.
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The NIV should be seriously doubted .
 
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