Was Jesus the only one born without sin?

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tooldtocare said:
No one is born with sin, period; not even the Polar Bear

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Hmm..................guessing Jesus was not "born?" He was FULLY man, and FULLY God.......He was subjected to everything man is subjected to..........yet He was WITHOUT SIN. Until, He "became sin" for us ON THE CROSS.

So..........da Polar Bear might have been born sinful, but Christ was not............and, unless one person can show me one DOCUMENTED CASE from Scripture describing a sin John the Baptist committed, well.........
 
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p_rehbein said:
Hmm..................guessing Jesus was not "born?" He was FULLY man, and FULLY God.......He was subjected to everything man is subjected to..........yet He was WITHOUT SIN. Until, He "became sin" for us ON THE CROSS.

So..........da Polar Bear might have been born sinful, but Christ was not............and, unless one person can show me one DOCUMENTED CASE from Scripture describing a sin John the Baptist committed, well.........
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Unless you can show where it is said John the Baptist was without sin, well...
 
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Mary was not born a sinner and who are you that dares to say so - Mary's wonderful God and Saviour saved her and most of us before we were born - just who do you think you are to say otherwise - of course it could be because you and others think you are more infallible than any Catholic including the Pope - it is not in the bible that Mary sinned and in fact exactly the opposite is the case - so you will one day have to answer why when presented with these two options you deliberately chose the one you did as an insult to Catholics and God and the mother of God - btw may just be that God is everything but human - wincam
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Its hard to believe people are so ignorant of biblical truth...
 
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p_rehbein said:
Hmm..................guessing Jesus was not "born?" He was FULLY man, and FULLY God.......He was subjected to everything man is subjected to..........yet He was WITHOUT SIN. Until, He "became sin" for us ON THE CROSS.

So..........da Polar Bear might have been born sinful, but Christ was not............and, unless one person can show me one DOCUMENTED CASE from Scripture describing a sin John the Baptist committed, well.........
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are you He that should come or look we for another? Luke 11.2

compare John 1.29.-36

His doubt was sin when he had previously KNOWN
 
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wincam said:
1 - Mary like us was saved before she was born and all that was required was acceptance at a later date as also was the case with the thief on the cross


2- Lk.1:43 - wincam
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too many communion wafers, buddy
 
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p_rehbein said:
Hmm..................guessing Jesus was not "born?" He was FULLY man, and FULLY God.......He was subjected to everything man is subjected to..........yet He was WITHOUT SIN. Until, He "became sin" for us ON THE CROSS.

So..........da Polar Bear might have been born sinful, but Christ was not............and, unless one person can show me one DOCUMENTED CASE from Scripture describing a sin John the Baptist committed, well.........
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ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God
 
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wincam said:
Mary was not born a sinner and who are you that dares to say so - Mary's wonderful God and Saviour saved her and most of us before we were born - just who do you think you are to say otherwise - of course it could be because you and others think you are more infallible than any Catholic including the Pope - it is not in the bible that Mary sinned and in fact exactly the opposite is the case - so you will one day have to answer why when presented with these two options you deliberately chose the one you did as an insult to Catholics and God and the mother of God - btw may just be that God is everything but human - wincam
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Talk about an insulting post -- to Jesus.
 
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Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

In 1854 The Pope of the Catholic Church declared that Mary was born without sin. I find it a little hard to believe that after 1500 years of studying the Scriptures, the Catholics suddenly discover that Mary was born sinless.

What i believe is this is when Satan finally receive total control over the Catholic Church. This is when the Catholics walked away from God to serve and Worship Satan as their God. And Yes i do believe today that Satan is the god of the Catholics today.

May God have mercy on their Souls.
 
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I feel sorry for you. Satan has blinded your eyes and you don't know the truth. The Roman Catholic Church has been teaching false doctrines for centuries. Satan doesn't want people to get saved and learn the truth from God's Word. There is no such thing as purgatory. To think that you can pray someone out of hell is crazy! And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement.Hebrews 9:27 New King James Version Roman Catholic Church follows tradition and man made rules. Martin Luther got kicked out of the Catholic Church because he exposed there false doctrines. He found out they were teaching things that were not in the Bible. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Jesus is the only way. Buddha can't save you, Allah can't save you, the Pope can't save you, neither can Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses only Jesus can save. Come out from among them an be ye separate.Ask God to open up your eyes so you can learn the truth from God's Word. Satan wants to keep you confused so you can go to hell. I pray that you get born again and leave the Catholic Church. Preacha24-7
 
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MikeHenderson said:
Or was it Jesus and Mary that was the one's born without sin like the Catholics teach? IF Mary was born without sin could there be others also who were born with sin?

I believe only Jesus was born without sin! What do you believe?
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All of us, except Jesus Christ, have sinned.
 
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Preacha24-7 said:
I feel sorry for you. Satan has blinded your eyes and you don't know the truth. The Roman Catholic Church has been teaching false doctrines for centuries. Satan doesn't want people to get saved and learn the truth from God's Word. There is no such thing as purgatory. To think that you can pray someone out of hell is crazy! And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement.Hebrews 9:27 New King James Version Roman Catholic Church follows tradition and man made rules. Martin Luther got kicked out of the Catholic Church because he exposed there false doctrines. He found out they were teaching things that were not in the Bible. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Jesus is the only way. Buddha can't save you, Allah can't save you, the Pope can't save you, neither can Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses only Jesus can save. Come out from among them an be ye separate.Ask God to open up your eyes so you can learn the truth from God's Word. Satan wants to keep you confused so you can go to hell. I pray that you get born again and leave the Catholic Church. Preacha24-7
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Luther got kicked out- in fact kicked himself out to preach and teach nonsense and heresy and attribute this nonsense and heresy to inspiration via the HS - look around now and see the results and fruits - wincam
 
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MikeHenderson said:
Or was it Jesus and Mary that was the one's born without sin like the Catholics teach? IF Mary was born without sin could there be others also who were born with sin?

I believe only Jesus was born without sin! What do you believe?
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Only Jesus Christ was born sinless.
 
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wincam

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PaulMack said:
Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP]for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Romans 5:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

In 1854 The Pope of the Catholic Church declared that Mary was born without sin. I find it a little hard to believe that after 1500 years of studying the Scriptures, the Catholics suddenly discover that Mary was born sinless.

What i believe is this is when Satan finally receive total control over the Catholic Church. This is when the Catholics walked away from God to serve and Worship Satan as their God. And Yes i do believe today that Satan is the god of the Catholics today.

May God have mercy on their Souls.
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so it seems you are claiming to know better than any Catholic, including the Pope and stating that Christ's prayer failed and so did Peter.s faith - wincam
 
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GuessWho said:
Only Jesus Christ was born sinless.
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no doubt but exactly how did He manage that as fully human as us who are all conceived in sin from our mother.s womb - wincam
 
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wincam said:
no doubt but exactly how did He manage that as fully human as us who are all conceived in sin from our mother.s womb - wincam
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I'm pretty sure the virgin birth was about more than just making the Christmas story more interesting. Dontcha think?
 
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p_rehbein said:
I know............but, how many people from the New Testament were prophesied of? John the Baptist was NOTHING, if not filled with humility..........but, EVEN MORE filled with the Holy Ghost right? Just saying :)
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Saint Mary bore Jesus Christ (who is God incarnated) in her womb and gave birth to him...

p_rehbein said:
As I said, a case can be made........and maybe John wasn't as "special" a person as I believe him to have been. But, what OTHER person was spoken of as was John...............OTHER THAN CHRIST HIMSELF?
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I think that bearing God incarnated in your womb has no comparison. I don't think one can be closer to God than Saint Mary was.

Yet, both of them (Saint Mary and Saint John) were born sinners.


 
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FreeNChrist said:
I'm pretty sure the virgin birth was about more than just making the Christmas story more interesting. Dontcha think?
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many have turned the good news/gospel into not so good and are preaching another gospel not aware that thier gospel is another gospel - wincam
 
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wincam said:
no doubt but exactly how did He manage that as fully human as us who are all conceived in sin from our mother.s womb - wincam
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Jesus Christ is both God and man. He sanctified Saint Mary's womb because He is God.

Being a sinner is the condition of us, humans. God incarnated in man in order to defeat death (the consequence of our sin) and change our way of existence.

There is no doubt that God could have make us all saints at the snap of a finger, whitout going through the troubles of incarnation and especially, crucification. However, if God did that, if He would have made us holy at the snap of a finger, He would have taken us the gift of freedom. We have freedom, that's why we are in trouble.

If Saint Mary would have been declared not sinner, God would have taken her freedom. God did not cancel her freedom. When angel Gabriel comes to her, we don't get the impression that she is being forced to accept her faith. The conditions sine qua non to follow God are freedom and love.
 
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wincam,

do you see God as the type of person that would wear a glove before shaking the hand with you? Do you see Him spraying anti-bacterial substance on your hand out of fear that He might get dirty by you?

If you don't see Him like this (and I hope you don't) then think about Mary in the same way. The sinful condition of Mary did not affect God's holyness in any way. On the contrary, His holyness affected Saint Mary.
 
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