Was Jesus the only one born without sin?
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Who are we going to answer to the other Mary that you call Mary as a anti ?
You simply have another authority other than the living abiding word of God called the law of the fathers or what you call apostolic succession..By it you make His Tradition of faith without effect.
The Mary of the scripture is a asleep. The saints that leave this realm under the Sun never have anything to do with things here forever more. Now is the time God accepts our love for one another that we offer in His name (not her name ).
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.Ecc 9:5
You simply have another authority other than the living abiding word of God called the law of the fathers or what you call apostolic succession..By it you make His Tradition of faith without effect.
The Mary of the scripture is a asleep. The saints that leave this realm under the Sun never have anything to do with things here forever more. Now is the time God accepts our love for one another that we offer in His name (not her name ).
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.Ecc 9:5
So what does "All" mean in Rom 3:23? Those using Rom 3:23 probably want to emphasize that the verse clearly indicates "all" people - there are no exceptions - but will likely quickly make exceptions...
Does "all" mean:
•All humans conceived? That would include aborted humans who get robbed of a chance to be born. They are sinners and get no chance to repent, since they are dismembered before birth.
•All who have been conceived and are born/birthed into the world at about 9 months? That would include babies and toddlers, some who die before they are make any choices to sin.
•All who reach the "age of accountability"?
In 1854 The Pope of the Catholic Church declared that Mary was born without sin. I find it a little hard to believe that after 1500 years of studying the Scriptures, the Catholics suddenly discover that Mary was born sinless. Any of the seemingly few RC who knows his/her church history will tell you that they have believed it for long before 1854, but they finally made it dogmatic in that year to officially "carve in stone" something they've long believed. It wasn't, then, an 1854 discovery. Martin Luther, a former RC, apparently agreed with the RCC 300 years earlier, even after protesting other RC beliefs.
Does "all" mean:
•All humans conceived? That would include aborted humans who get robbed of a chance to be born. They are sinners and get no chance to repent, since they are dismembered before birth.
•All who have been conceived and are born/birthed into the world at about 9 months? That would include babies and toddlers, some who die before they are make any choices to sin.
•All who reach the "age of accountability"?
In 1854 The Pope of the Catholic Church declared that Mary was born without sin. I find it a little hard to believe that after 1500 years of studying the Scriptures, the Catholics suddenly discover that Mary was born sinless. Any of the seemingly few RC who knows his/her church history will tell you that they have believed it for long before 1854, but they finally made it dogmatic in that year to officially "carve in stone" something they've long believed. It wasn't, then, an 1854 discovery. Martin Luther, a former RC, apparently agreed with the RCC 300 years earlier, even after protesting other RC beliefs.
I missed this earlier. It is refuted by the fact that "In Adam, all die" (1 Cor. 15:22). If children are born sinless, then those who are miscarried, aborted, stillborn, or who die before the age of accountability, or because of limitations never reach accountability, have no need of a Saviour. They would appear before the Father on their own. Sorry, this is not biblically sound. Every single one of us needs to be washed in the blood of Christ. If we allow that some don't, we must allow that what God calls a sin nature isn't a reality. "For ALL have sinned...."
They do not believe she was born without sin (actually, about Luther I am not that sure). The EOC teaches that she has been sanctified by God, not that she was born without sin. Also, the EOC believes she died (death is consequence of sin) and that she has been resurrected by God. The catholics believe she didn't die (since they believe she was born sinless) and Luther does not have a clear position on this. He held her very highly and believed that saints continue living after death.
I would disagree "All" according as scriptures infallibly informs us means; "as many" as the father gave, they alone will come.
Joh 17:2 As thou hast given him power "over" all flesh, that he should give "eternal life" to as many as thou hast given him.
That authority/power to believe God that he has over (not under) flesh (earthen vessel)of course includes the flesh of our blessed by the great mercy of God, sister in the Lord, Mary. Just as it was not of blessed Mary it is not of any of His blessed born again children
2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Mary to show she lived in a corrupted body it aged in a process of dying leading to destruction of the body that returns to the lifeless, spiritless dust, as the elements of this corrupted world. She is like any other Christian as a lively stone used that makes up the spiritual house of God as His eternal bride. God is no respect of the clay He form Christ in.It comes from the same dust.
Because as it would seem the Catholics follow another gospel or I would think are in dark place . The as many to them ,it would seem would be all that are pronounced sainthood by their what they must call Holy Father ,Holy Papa, Holy See as a daysman according to the scriptures ,called by them Pope. No man Holy Father on earth..This is even though scripture, the authority of God clearly warns them not to call any man on earth your father For one is our Father of spirits in heaven to.Their are 3500 and rising disembodied workers with as familiar spirit that the pew Catholic under the authority of their kind of fathers must call patron saints. Doing some research we can the legion picking up speed increasing in number
Thanks for that precious thought. Great way to look at it I believe.
I was reminded of a Psalm that speaks of His wonderful works as a labor of His love in the affairs of men. I am sure he began the good work of salvation in Mary who he blessed by having mercy on her soul . I love the last part about waking up given us another opportunity
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He promises us he who begins the work of salvation in us he will finish it as his faith increases in us . It is my confidence and I believe most Christians. He reveals his mysteries to His children in parables as below..
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. Psa 139:13