Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection
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To be "remitted" means to be forgiven. Acts 10:43 tells us HOW they are forgiven.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Through faith in Christ. The words "through His name" is claimed to be a reference to water baptism but that is incorrect. The believing here is defined by "through His hame". iow, it is believe IN His Name that brings forgiveness (remittance).
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FreeGrace2 said:
To be "remitted" means to be forgiven. Acts 10:43 tells us HOW they are forgiven.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Through faith in Christ. The words "through His name" is claimed to be a reference to water baptism but that is incorrect. The believing here is defined by "through His hame". iow, it is believe IN His Name that brings forgiveness (remittance).
And Acts 10:43 isn't even about water baptism. It is about believing in the Name of Jesus for forgiveness.
Acts 2:38 was to a special group of Jews who had SEEN Jesus' miracles yet participated in His crucifixion as a criminal.
Most likely the baptism mentioned here would be John's baptism, in which EVERYONE would have been familiar with.
They would be identifying with a change of mind (repentance) in what THEY DID TO JESUS.
Acts 2:38 has NO BEARING on the church age.
To be "remitted" means to be forgiven. Acts 10:43 tells us HOW they are forgiven.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Through faith in Christ. The words "through His name" is claimed to be a reference to water baptism but that is incorrect. The believing here is defined by "through His hame". iow, it is believe IN His Name that brings forgiveness (remittance).
And Acts 10:43 isn't even about water baptism. It is about believing in the Name of Jesus for forgiveness.
Acts 2:38 was to a special group of Jews who had SEEN Jesus' miracles yet participated in His crucifixion as a criminal.
Most likely the baptism mentioned here would be John's baptism, in which EVERYONE would have been familiar with.
They would be identifying with a change of mind (repentance) in what THEY DID TO JESUS.
Acts 2:38 has NO BEARING on the church age.
Acts 10:43- says those who believe in Jesus will receive forgiveness of sins. How? Through His name. Scripture shows water baptism was consistently administered in the name of the Lord Jesus. For what? For the remission of sin. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:10:43-48, 19:1-6, 22:16)
The NT church was birthed on the Day of Pentecost after Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. Jesus actually stated His name would begin to be used in Jerusalem in connection with repentance and remission of sin and spread into all nations. (Luke 24:47) His statement confirms the message given on the Day of Pentecost was not exclusive to the Jews as some suppose. Further confirmation is seen in the detailed accounts of all groups of people. They too were commanded to be baptized in the name of the Lord. These baptisms are in fact water baptisms. How can this be known? God is the one who baptizes with the Holy Ghost. Whereas mankind is given the command and must choose whether to submit to water baptism.
The NT church was birthed on the Day of Pentecost after Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. Jesus actually stated His name would begin to be used in Jerusalem in connection with repentance and remission of sin and spread into all nations. (Luke 24:47) His statement confirms the message given on the Day of Pentecost was not exclusive to the Jews as some suppose. Further confirmation is seen in the detailed accounts of all groups of people. They too were commanded to be baptized in the name of the Lord. These baptisms are in fact water baptisms. How can this be known? God is the one who baptizes with the Holy Ghost. Whereas mankind is given the command and must choose whether to submit to water baptism.
The NT was not ratified until Jesus' blood was applied to the mercy seat:
After Jesus' resurrection He told Mary not to touch Him because He had not yet ascended to the Father:
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17) Relevance? This scripture speaks of His blood having yet to be applied to the mercy seat in heaven.
",,,but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Heb. 9
After Jesus' resurrection He told Mary not to touch Him because He had not yet ascended to the Father:
"Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17) Relevance? This scripture speaks of His blood having yet to be applied to the mercy seat in heaven.
",,,but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." Heb. 9
FreeGrace2 said:
To be "remitted" means to be forgiven. Acts 10:43 tells us HOW they are forgiven.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Through faith in Christ. The words "through His name" is claimed to be a reference to water baptism but that is incorrect. The believing here is defined by "through His hame". iow, it is believe IN His Name that brings forgiveness (remittance).
And Acts 10:43 isn't even about water baptism. It is about believing in the Name of Jesus for forgiveness.
Through FAITH in His Name, specifically, as so many other verses clearly communicate.
This is irrelevant to the verse. It is faith in His Name that results in forgiveness of sin. If water baptism was a requirement, this verse WOULD HAVE PLAINLY SAID SO. But it makes no mention of water. You are just grasping at straws.
Acts 3:16 - And his name—by faith in his name—has made this man strong whom you see and know, and the faith that is through Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you all.
To be "remitted" means to be forgiven. Acts 10:43 tells us HOW they are forgiven.
All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Through faith in Christ. The words "through His name" is claimed to be a reference to water baptism but that is incorrect. The believing here is defined by "through His hame". iow, it is believe IN His Name that brings forgiveness (remittance).
And Acts 10:43 isn't even about water baptism. It is about believing in the Name of Jesus for forgiveness.
Through FAITH in His Name, specifically, as so many other verses clearly communicate.
This is irrelevant to the verse. It is faith in His Name that results in forgiveness of sin. If water baptism was a requirement, this verse WOULD HAVE PLAINLY SAID SO. But it makes no mention of water. You are just grasping at straws.
Acts 3:16 - And his name—by faith in his name—has made this man strong whom you see and know, and the faith that is through Jesus has given the man this perfect health in the presence of you all.
Peter states those who believe in Jesus will receive remission of sin through Jesus' name. It is after the people believe in Jesus that they are commanded to be water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. This is a direct parallel to the initial message. Wherein according to Peter everyone is to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sin. (Acts 2:38)
You are mistaken.
Peter commanded Cornelius and others:
"Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Acts 10:47-48
Peter commanded Cornelius and others:
"Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." Acts 10:47-48
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ALL that followed was for MORE Blessings from ABOVE as PROMISED.
The Thief on the cross next to the New Covenant died by Faith under the New Covenant.
Anyone who says other is exalting their words above the LORD'S which is very bad to do and forbidden by GOD.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:-5-6
You need to have the same Faith as the Thief who was Saved by the New Covenant.
The Thief on the cross next to the New Covenant died by Faith under the New Covenant.
Anyone who says other is exalting their words above the LORD'S which is very bad to do and forbidden by GOD.
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:-5-6
You need to have the same Faith as the Thief who was Saved by the New Covenant.
As I noted in my previous response the word command is used as seen in Acts 10:47-48. In addition, even though the specific word "command" was not specifically stated in other accounts it is clear the hearers were told of the necessity to submit to water baptism as confirmed by their obedience
Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 22:14-16 (Paul's water baptism)
And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
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Acts 8:12-17 (Samaritans-half Jewish-half Gentile)
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:2-6 (Disciples who did not realize they had to water baptized in Jesus name)
He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 22:14-16 (Paul's water baptism)
And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
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You are mistaken thinking that water baptism has effects.
They were ALREADY saved and ALREADY received the Holy Spirit. So what's left.
As to Peter's command, since there were 6 believers with him, you cannot prove that his command wasn't to them to do it.
iow, having NOTHING to do with making Cornelius get baptized.
They were ALREADY saved and ALREADY received the Holy Spirit. So what's left.
As to Peter's command, since there were 6 believers with him, you cannot prove that his command wasn't to them to do it.
iow, having NOTHING to do with making Cornelius get baptized.
I do have faith. And realize every word of God is flawless. The biblical record confirms God gave believers specific commands in both the OT and NT. The thief died prior to the resurrection and glorification of Jesus. Therefore, the NT commands were not in effect. That occurred when the Holy Ghost was poured out after Jesus was glorified. (Acts 2)
The initial message to the NT church is outlined in Acts chapter 2. It includes the need to believe in Jesus death, burial and resurrection and stated requirements. Peter gave specific instructions to individuals who asked what they must do. They were told to repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sin, and receive the Holy Ghost. Peter later commanded the Gentiles to get baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus after they received the Holy Ghost. (Acts 10) And assisted in the Samaritans conversion as well. (Acts 8)
The initial message to the NT church is outlined in Acts chapter 2. It includes the need to believe in Jesus death, burial and resurrection and stated requirements. Peter gave specific instructions to individuals who asked what they must do. They were told to repent, and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus for the remission of sin, and receive the Holy Ghost. Peter later commanded the Gentiles to get baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus after they received the Holy Ghost. (Acts 10) And assisted in the Samaritans conversion as well. (Acts 8)