WHAT ABOUT THE THEIF ON THE CROSS??

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No, not possible.

Are you sure about that?

Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

He was lifted up, so the second part of this is also true, He did draw all unto Him.
or else how could He have died for the sins of the Whole World?

2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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I forgot one, one of the most important,

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

This was acomplished in Christ on the Cross.


 
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Are you sure about that?

Joh 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw allmenunto me.

He was lifted up, so the second part of this is also true, He did draw all unto Him.
or else how could He have died for the sins of the Whole World?

2Co 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
all men, this is meaning Jew and Gentile.
 
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Yes, All men, were and is IN HIM.

But He is not IN All men not at this present time.

But will He be? YOU BET YA.

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all
 
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Folks are we saved by the grace of God?

I have never understood why folks will take a few select passages that they think promote their doctrine and hold to them whle ignoring the host of other Scriptures that contradict their belief. If God says something then it is a requirement and must be done. As for the thrif on the cross, what does it matter, Christ forgave the sins of many while he was on this earth and he had the power to do so. However, there were some special circumstances surrounding that event. One Christ was alive and not dead, second the thief was hanging there next to Him. Christ commanded baptism in Matthew 28:18-20, after his death, burial and resurrection, which by the way Paul speaks about in the book of Romans. I say this because so many want to skip to chapter 10 and conveniently overlook chapter 6. By the way in chapter 10, Paul is saying that whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, he is not telling us how to be saved, but telling us that anyone who desires to be saved can be. Salvation was first opened to the Jews and the Gentiles where given the opportunity later. Also, there is not Scripture keep in its proper context that teaches one to pray to God for salvation. "Calling on the name of the Lord" is not ever used in Scripture as a way to pray to God. Calling on the name of the Lord is equal to obedience. That is why Ananias told Paul to "Arise and be baptized washing away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Plus if praying to God to be saved was sufficient you would think that Paul would have already been saved and had his sins taken away, because he was praying (Acts 9:11) before Ananias arrived to tell him what he needed to do to be saved. Which is what Ananias told in Acts 22:16. In order to be saved he had to be baptized in order to have his sins washed away. Prayer cannot wash away sin. If it can show the verse.
 
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Folks are we saved by the grace of God?

I have never understood why folks will take a few select passages that they think promote their doctrine and hold to them whle ignoring the host of other Scriptures that contradict their belief. If God says something then it is a requirement and must be done. As for the thrif on the cross, what does it matter, Christ forgave the sins of many while he was on this earth and he had the power to do so. However, there were some special circumstances surrounding that event. One Christ was alive and not dead, second the thief was hanging there next to Him. Christ commanded baptism in Matthew 28:18-20, after his death, burial and resurrection, which by the way Paul speaks about in the book of Romans. I say this because so many want to skip to chapter 10 and conveniently overlook chapter 6. By the way in chapter 10, Paul is saying that whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, he is not telling us how to be saved, but telling us that anyone who desires to be saved can be. Salvation was first opened to the Jews and the Gentiles where given the opportunity later. Also, there is not Scripture keep in its proper context that teaches one to pray to God for salvation. "Calling on the name of the Lord" is not ever used in Scripture as a way to pray to God. Calling on the name of the Lord is equal to obedience. That is why Ananias told Paul to "Arise and be baptized washing away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Plus if praying to God to be saved was sufficient you would think that Paul would have already been saved and had his sins taken away, because he was praying (Acts 9:11) before Ananias arrived to tell him what he needed to do to be saved. Which is what Ananias told in Acts 22:16. In order to be saved he had to be baptized in order to have his sins washed away. Prayer cannot wash away sin. If it can show the verse.
Amen to that.