all that sounds good ladylynn but all of it isn't biblical
I totally agree, i'm not trying to work my way to heaven
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You can do all the works of the 10 commandments and get an A+ Goodnewsman but without Jesus Christ and His gift of righteousness, people are lost and condemned already. A transaction needs to occur and when we realize we are sinners in need of a Savior and ask Him to save us, it is then that the Holy Spirit comes into our being and we are born again.,made a new creation IN Christ.
again, I agree.....on a roll here. LOL
Once born into God's family, you are no longer outside but you become one of the sheep of His pasture. And no one (not even us) can reverse that transaction. We were bought with a price and are no longer our own. 
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!
here's is were we disagree, I've never read this nowhere in the bible, that I couldn't "reverse the transaction?"
look what happens if we are not willing to forgive:
Matthew 18:32-35 (KJV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
[SUP]33 [/SUP] Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
[SUP]34 [/SUP] And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
look at the sower:
Luke 8:11-13 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
these were saved, for a while and fell away in time of temptation.
this is all through the N.T (enough scripture to choke a texas mule against this OSAS)
The main thrust of this parable is that when people wrong us, we should remember God’s great mercy that He has shown to us and respond in kind (Ephesians 4:32). Any debt that could be owed to us is insignificant compared to the debt of which we have been forgiven. We should have compassion on others just as Christ had on us (Colossians 3:13 and James 2:13).
If we fail to forgive others just as we have been forgiven, then this parable teaches that we can once again become liable for the debt that has been forgiven. This could be illustrating the church discipline spoken of in Matthew 18:15-20. This man’s fellow servants brought him before his master for judgment similar to Christ’s instructions about how to discipline a brother
It is certain that not every part of this parable can be applied literally, because the lord of this servant commanded this man’s wife and children to be sold as part of the payment of this debt. This cannot be applied to the spiritual meaning of this parable in light of the Scriptures’ teaching that every man and woman will receive judgment for their own sins and not another’s (Deuteronomy 24:16, 2 Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:29-30, and Ezekiel 18:19-32).
Therefore, caution should be used when drawing conclusions about judgment from this parable. The main point emphasized is the necessity of forgiving others and the severe consequences if we don’t.
The first type of people that Jesus described are those who don’t understand God’s Word (Matthew 13:19). Before God’s Word can penetrate people’s hearts, they have to understand (not comprehend) what it’s saying. If the Word isn’t understood, then it will be like seed scattered on top of hard-packed ground (the wayside). The birds will eat the seed, and there will be no fruit.
Mark 4:15 and this verse make it clear that these birds represent Satan, and Mark said the devil comes immediately to steal away the Word. Satan did not have direct access to the Word in any of the other types of hearts that Jesus described. Satan cannot steal the Word from people if they will hide it in their hearts (Psalms 119:11). This first type of people simply heard the Word but didn’t receive it. They never applied it to their lives, and so they lost it.
Notice that Luke linked belief and salvation with the Word being sown in our hearts in the same way as Romans 10:14-17. If there is no Word, there cannot be any belief or salvation (1 Peter 1:23). We must preach the Word, not just morality or social issues.
Luke’s use of the word “saved” could include, but is not necessarily limited to, forgiveness of sins. Salvation includes much more than forgiveness of sins (see note 2 at Matthew 8:17 and note 32 at Matthew 6:10). This verse could describe people who didn’t receive the Word and, therefore, were eternally damned, or it could also be describing Christians who simply don’t receive the Word in certain areas of their lives and, therefore, don’t experience the victory that Jesus provided for them.
As has already been noted (see note 1 at Luke 8:8), good ground doesn’t just happen; it has to be cultivated. This is the reason only one out of four people in Jesus’ parable brought forth fruit. It takes a lot of effort and diligence to be a fruitful Christian. As also stated in this verse, it takes a lot of patience. The Christian life is not like a hundred yard dash but rather a twenty-six mile marathon. It takes time to become a fruitful Christian. It’s quicker and easier to raise weeds than it is to raise tomatoes or corn.
In this whole parable, it was the Word that produced fruit. The ground just gave it a place to grow. If we will simply put God’s Word in our hearts, protect it, and give it priority in our lives, the Word will produce fruit of itself. Satan has deceived many of us into thinking that we don’t have the talents or abilities to be fruitful Christians, but we are not the ones who bring forth fruit; it’s God’s Word. When we protect the Word sown in our hearts, it will do the rest.
Bible commentary.
