What are the noahide laws?

[Abiding]

No one has to accuse anyone of anything. This person's fruit is on display for all to see.

I've proven I can co-exist with anyone, EVEN YOU, however, respect is a two way street. If you treat people like garbage eventually someone will call you out on it.

The issue here is not a difference is beliefs but rather a lack of respect. Unfortunately, there are many in the church world who preach the grace of God yet refuse to believe that God's grace can save someone who believes somewhat differently than themselves. They can't seem to accept the fact that they may not possess and / or understand every aspect of God's redemptive plan.

Not once have I denied this man's salvation or insinuated that he was a heretic as he has accused others. I simply stated that I don't see a lot of love of God in his actions which implies that he's acting out of the flesh. Who knows, maybe his poor behavior is a result of high blood pressure also?

Anyways, any time you want to talk to me Abiding, you know where to find me.

true i prolly will have a sitdown someday with you. and yes im into respect also. and i agree of all we are called to do, taking a wild guess at someone salvation isnt one of them duties.

heritic tho as much as i dont like seeing that word thrown around simply means someone who divides.
and staying on someones heels giving tit for tat...then trying to display with their reaction their lack of
fellowship with God to me is plain wrong. Actually i have an even larger opinion on that that ill keep to myself.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

unlike most of the anti semitic conspiracy theorists...i have actually read the entire section of the talmud regarding the noachide laws...it is long and full of obscure examples and overall pretty boring...

but the talmud contains all of that boring exposition on the noachide laws in order to specify exactly what constitutes a violation of each of the noachide laws...

in the case of the noachide prohibition of idolatry...the talmud clearly defines idolatry as the act of literally bowing down to a physical graven image... simply believing in the divinity of jesus christ does not qualify as idolatry by the talmudic noachide definition...

so the noachide law against idolatry is -not- anti christian

 

[Abiding]

hmmm your for me or against me...gathering or scattering....dont mean much i spose.
harmless stuff...im sure they have my best interest in mind.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

unlike most of the anti semitic conspiracy theorists...i have actually read the entire section of the talmud regarding the noachide laws...it is long and full of obscure examples and overall pretty boring...

but the talmud contains all of that boring exposition on the noachide laws in order to specify exactly what constitutes a violation of each of the noachide laws...

in the case of the noachide prohibition of idolatry...the talmud clearly defines idolatry as the act of literally bowing down to a physical graven image... simply believing in the divinity of jesus christ does not qualify as idolatry by the talmudic noachide definition...

so the noachide law against idolatry is -not- anti christian

I agree it gets complicated. The first reading might look like it only about a literal idol (e.g. a statue, cross, perhaps tree or other physical object. The discourse goes on to elaborate that any claim that ties (conjoins) the name of heaven with something else is to be destroyed (p185 below). As with all legal interpretation there is much to study, and perhaps too much of this sort of discourse is also prohibited. I excerpted (with references) parts of the text for the interested reader.

A common law principle involves the concept of 'notice', that being "constructive notice" (it's in a book somewhere) and "actual notice" *(you have been personally told, required to take a class, given a manual, had a sign posted, and etc.) This also gets a bit deeper. The convoluted, complicated meandering which we see in the discourses, like much of today's secular law, takes it outside the realm of most person's abilities to understand the law (knowing still that ignorance is no excuse). The usual remedy for such a problem is not to engage in any way so as to avoid committing an infraction. So, everyone stops doing things, all commerce comes to a standstill, all work and income related taxes end, the social structure falls, and the Pharisees must (again) go ... this is the Tao.

This is a simple discussion of some general principles, not a legal discourse. Only a lawyer can give legal advice. This discussion is simply as if someone were talking to you about your income tax return on general terms, knowing that a professional still must be involved to properly implement the legal practices involved.


Reference Link: -->> Babylonian Talmud, Book 8, tr. Rodkinson: Tract Sanhedrin: Chapter VII

MISHNA VII.: He is considered an idolater who worships

p. 178

it with its proper 1 worship; and even if he only sacrifices, smokes incense, or pours wine. He is also so considered if he bows himself to it, or accepts it as a god, even without any other act. And also if he only says: Thou art my god.


p184 ...
"And also if he only says, 'Thou art my god.'" R. Na'hman in the name of Rabba b. Abuhu, quoting Rabh, said: As soon as he has said, "Thou art my god," he is culpable.

goes on to explain more about actions ...

p185
Said R. Simeon b. Johai to them: This is still worse, as there is a tradition: He who conjoins the name of Heaven with something else is to be destroyed; and therefore the Vav in "he-elukha," which makes the word plural, shows that they were fond of many gods.
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From the scriptural text Authorized by the King - King James:

Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.Phillipians 2:4-11 KJV​

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

This quote is slightly off topic, in that it pertains to Sharia - Islamic law, but I have already asserted here, that the rise of Islam, for example it's affirmation by Prince Charles (a would-be successor to King James), Rick Perry Governor of Texas and John McCain, Senator from Arizona, is a gateway to Talmudic Pharisaical law.

The Use of Blasphemy Laws in Pakistan (excerpted from the article referenced below)

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More disturbingly, the study found that the blasphemy laws were often used to settle personal scores. The mere accusation produces such a fierce reaction that an accused person stands little chance of being cleared.

"The use of the blasphemy law has become a quick way of resolving disputes arising from business rivalry, honor disputes, disputes over money and property," the report said.

The majority of those accused of blasphemy in Pakistan are actually Muslims who belong to various Muslim sects.

In one case featured in the report, an 85-year old Muslim man in Faisalabad named Haq Nawaz claimed he was falsely implicated in a blasphemy case by a Muslim neighbor to whom he refused to hand over a government-allocated plot of land. Nawaz was accused in January of 2011, and remains in jail awaiting court proceedings.

In another case, a 54-year-old Muslim resident of Jhelum named Muhammad Ashraf claimed he was accused of blasphemy after demanding a cousin repay money he borrowed to build his home. The cousin, he said, was unable to pay and "a scuffle ensued." Ashraf found himself jailed on blasphemy charges in September 2010. He was sentenced to death in March 2011, and his appeal is pending.

William said that while the reaction to blasphemy accusations -- as seen in Rimsha's community -- has become "routine" in recent months, this wasn't always the case.

"If you look at the cases two or three years back, we didn't see such reactions," William said. "Now we see society is becoming more and more intolerant, and such incidents are increasing at an alarming rate. There is an extreme mindset, and the intolerance is increasing. People are not open to talk about it."

Despite this and the flurry of international headlines about Rimsha's case, Pakistan's leaders stop short of calling for reform.

Reference Link -->> Pakistani Christians live in fear after girl's blasphemy arrest - World News


It's human nature to use law for power, control, status, and gain, altogether too common in the USA and the world over, human nature being what it is.