What are the noahide laws?

[cenallen]

2. Regan was what? He was a man who feared God, and who took this country back to values and helped it be what it was for many years.

OH good grief.
Reagan was an HOLLYWOOD B actor.
they groomed him to do exactly what he did. The North American Free Trade Agreement, for example.
a good little dumbed down globalist who did what he was told.

Iran–Contra affair
Iran

get real - a CHRISTIAN? they were OCCULTISTS.
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"Virtually every major move and decision the Reagans made during my time as White House Chief of Staff was cleared in advance with a woman in San Francisco who drew up horoscopes to make certain that the planets were in a favorable alignment for the enterprise."

Donald Regan (Reagan's former chief of staff),
For the Record: From Wall Street to Washington

Reagan's VP George H. W. Bush (father Prescott funded and partnered with Hitler; HW is a member of Luciferian power cult Skull and Bones, CFR, Trilateral Commission (Rockefeller/Kissinger); is one of world's top opium and cocaine kings - hence Nicaragua, Columbia, Mena, Afghanistan, Iraq: see book Compromised: Clinton Bush and the CIA)
Reagan's Secretary of State Alexander Haig (Knights of Malta; Master's degree from Jesuit Georgetown Univ; honorary law degree from Jesuit's Loyola University (you DO know who the Jesuits are by now, right?), and B'nai B'rith's Ben Gurion Univ - yes, Ben Gurion was a Freemason)
Israeli PM Shimon Peres (33rd degree Freemason, murderer of Rabin, puppet of French masonry.)
Israeli PM Mosche Dayan (Freemason)
Joseph Lieberman (Cabalist)
Jack Kemp (33rd degree Freemason, Rev Moon partner, covert Council for National Policy, Empower America, Heritage Foundation, Washington Family Council)
President Harry S. Truman (33rd degree Freemason)

and on and on...............but you swallow the koolaid they give you.

 

[cenallen]

If I am guilty of one thing it is this: believing the Bible says what it means and means what it says thus standing on faith that the Word of God is indeed true.

you wish.
you do nothing of the sort. its obvious you've gotten your script from others. not study.
certainly not the Holy Spirit.
he would NEVER lead anyone to support the Synagogue of Satan.

BTW - According to scripture, the great apostasy that you speak of occurs before the son of perdition (Antichrist) is revealed.

and?

The Antichrist rises up, is dealt with and is tossed into the lake of fire BEFORE THE MILENNIUM ever starts thus if we are indeed living in the Milennium then the great falling away has already come and gone.
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cough.
a thousand years after the second coming, meaning the REAL (fake) end comes in a moment of time which can be calculated to the second.
and has animal sacrifices and a return to shadows.
all because you can not discern the spiritual.
big talker though.

you moan that Jesus can't be King now, for the wheat and tares grow together (which Jesus said they would) - then you go ahead and have a fullscale satanic revolt with all of the world fighting against the Lord IN PERSON.

jewish fables.
nice work whoring for the SoS.

 

[cenallen]

three simple words for anyone to search for a few minutes: ORDER OUT OF CHAOS.

ORDO AB CHAO

A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. A motto of the Thirty-third Degree, and having the same allusion as lug e tenebris, which see in this work. The invention of this motto is to be attributed to the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish petite at Charleston, and it is first met with in the Patent of Count de Grasse, dated February 1, 1802.

- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

a 5 year old can understand that in order to bring about a CHANGE of the old order (christianity), you have to create chaos and then offer a solution. TALMUDIC LAW.

marxist hegelian dialectic:

The Frankfurt School (German: Frankfurter Schule) refers to a school of neo-Marxist interdisciplinary social theory,[1] associated in part with the Institute for Social Research at the University of Frankfurt am Main. The school initially consisted of dissident Marxists who believed that some of Marx's followers had come to parrot a narrow selection of Marx's ideas, usually in defense of orthodox Communist parties. Meanwhile, many of these theorists believed that traditional Marxist theory could not adequately explain the turbulent and unexpected development of capitalist societies in the twentieth century. Critical of both capitalism and Soviet socialism, their writings pointed to the possibility of an alternative path to social development.[2]

Frankfurt School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



ignorance beyond belief and more evidence of the apostasy in full swing.


Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Approved March 20, 1991.
Signed by George Bush,
President of the United States of America

The Establishment Clause is the first of several pronouncements in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, stating,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

Together with the Free Exercise Clause ("... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"), these two clauses make up what are called the "religion clauses" of the First Amendment.[1]
The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another. The first approach is called the "separation" or "no aid" interpretation, while the second approach is called the "non-preferential" or "accommodation" interpretation. The accommodation interpretation prohibits Congress from preferring one religion over another, but does not prohibit the government's entry into religious domain to make accommodations in order to achieve the purposes of the Free Exercise Clause.

Establishment Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The entry NoachidÊ, found in the ENCYCLOPDIA OF FREEMASONRY1 states the following:

"The descendants of Noah. A term applied to Freemasons on the theory, derived from the 'legend of the craft,' that Noah was the father and founder of the Masonic system of theology. And hence the Freemasons claim to be his descendants, because in times past they preserved the pure principles of his religion amid the corruptions of surrounding faiths. Dr. Anderson first used the word in this sense in the second edition of the Book of Constitutions: 'A Mason is obliged by his tenure to observe the moral law as a true Noachida.' But he was not the inventor of the term, for it occurs in a letter sent by the Grand Lodge of Calcutta in 1735, which letter is preserved among the Rawlinson MSS. in the Bodleian Library, Oxford. (See Ars Quartuor Coronatorum, xi., 35.)

Presidential Recognition of this Ancient Code of Ethics

President George Bush signed an historic resolution of both Congressional Houses, recognizing the Noachide Laws as the "bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization". He urged the United States to take a lead in "returning the world to the ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws". This historically significant document is recorded as House Joint Resolution 104, Public Law 102-14.

As Masons, we believe that as good citizens and promoters of all good and virtuous causes, we should take a leading role in this worthy enterprise. By so doing, we would be fulfilling the Old Charges and returning to the founding ideals of our order.

Noachites

 

[cenallen]

Reagan's VP George H. W. Bush (father Prescott funded and partnered with Hitler; HW is a member of Luciferian power cult Skull and Bones, CFR, Trilateral Commission (Rockefeller/Kissinger); is one of world's top opium and cocaine kings - hence Nicaragua, Columbia, Mena, Afghanistan, Iraq: see book Compromised: Clinton Bush and the CIA)
Reagan's Secretary of State Alexander Haig (Knights of Malta; Master's degree from Jesuit Georgetown Univ; honorary law degree from Jesuit's Loyola University (you DO know who the Jesuits are by now, right?), and B'nai B'rith's Ben Gurion Univ - yes, Ben Gurion was a Freemason)
Israeli PM Shimon Peres (33rd degree Freemason, murderer of Rabin, puppet of French masonry.)
Israeli PM Mosche Dayan (Freemason)
Joseph Lieberman (Cabalist)
Jack Kemp (33rd degree Freemason, Rev Moon partner, covert Council for National Policy, Empower America, Heritage Foundation, Washington Family Council)
President Harry S. Truman (33rd degree Freemason)

and on and on...............but you swallow the koolaid they give you.

Freemasonry and B’nai B’rith

Freemasonry and B'nai B'rith

 

[eternally-gratefull]

OH good grief.
Reagan was an HOLLYWOOD B actor.
they groomed him to do exactly what he did. The North American Free Trade Agreement, for example.
a good little dumbed down globalist who did what he was told.

Iran–Contra affair
Iran

get real - a CHRISTIAN? they were OCCULTISTS.
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"Virtually every major move and decision the Reagans made during my time as White House Chief of Staff was cleared in advance with a woman in San Francisco who drew up horoscopes to make certain that the planets were in a favorable alignment for the enterprise."

Donald Regan (Reagan's former chief of staff),
For the Record: From Wall Street to Washington

Reagan's VP George H. W. Bush (father Prescott funded and partnered with Hitler; HW is a member of Luciferian power cult Skull and Bones, CFR, Trilateral Commission (Rockefeller/Kissinger); is one of world's top opium and cocaine kings - hence Nicaragua, Columbia, Mena, Afghanistan, Iraq: see book Compromised: Clinton Bush and the CIA)
Reagan's Secretary of State Alexander Haig (Knights of Malta; Master's degree from Jesuit Georgetown Univ; honorary law degree from Jesuit's Loyola University (you DO know who the Jesuits are by now, right?), and B'nai B'rith's Ben Gurion Univ - yes, Ben Gurion was a Freemason)
Israeli PM Shimon Peres (33rd degree Freemason, murderer of Rabin, puppet of French masonry.)
Israeli PM Mosche Dayan (Freemason)
Joseph Lieberman (Cabalist)
Jack Kemp (33rd degree Freemason, Rev Moon partner, covert Council for National Policy, Empower America, Heritage Foundation, Washington Family Council)
President Harry S. Truman (33rd degree Freemason)

and on and on...............but you swallow the koolaid they give you.

And we listen to men?

Thanks, you just lost any amount of credability on anything you may say. Stop reading the tabloids and conspiracy reports. And try to look at reality. Have a nice day!

 

[Crossfire]

you wish.
you do nothing of the sort. its obvious you've gotten your script from others. not study.
certainly not the Holy Spirit.
he would NEVER lead anyone to support the Synagogue of Satan.



and?



cough.
a thousand years after the second coming, meaning the REAL (fake) end comes in a moment of time which can be calculated to the second.
and has animal sacrifices and a return to shadows.
all because you can not discern the spiritual.
big talker though.

you moan that Jesus can't be King now, for the wheat and tares grow together (which Jesus said they would) - then you go ahead and have a fullscale satanic revolt with all of the world fighting against the Lord IN PERSON.

jewish fables.
nice work whoring for the SoS.

Jesus was Lord before He ever physically stepped foot on planet earth (John 1). The Reformed Church is not the only Church who understands and recognizes the Christocentric nature of the Old Testament.

Again, you are presuming that I am both a Zionist and a Dispensationist. Apparently, you have not heard or are ignoring the fact that the (historic) Premillennialism has existed since the first century a.d. and was adhered to by several of the early Church fathers through the 2nd - 4th centuries.

It appears that you are not as familiar with Church history as well you'd like to believe. So much for those biased Reformed history books you are so fond of.

 

[Crossfire]

Any Premilennial theologian worth his salt understands that we are headed toward the establishment of a unitarian / universalist one world religion where moderate Judaism, Islam and Catholicism will join hands promising peace, in Jerusalem in particular. However, many underestimate the determination of radical orthodox Judaism and Islam thus Middleastern violence will not subside which will embarrass and force the hand of the powers that be to assume control over the City and the Temple Mount thus the son of perdition will make himself known to the population of the world by proclaiming himself as God. However, such an act will only serve to prove to a remnant of Jews that the New Testament is indeed true and that the Messiah is in deed Jesus Christ.

I don't have a problem with those who attempt to show how Judaism will play a role in end time events. However, I do take issue with those who attempt to demonize Jews above all others when in truth many Muslims and Christians will be deceived and will agree to take part in the universalist agenda for world peace.

 

[cenallen]

Jesus was Lord before He ever physically stepped foot on planet earth (John 1). The Reformed Church is not the only Church who understands and recognizes the Christocentric nature of the Old Testament.

that's good to hear.

so what was prophesied about Him (in either Testament) that has NOT been fulfilled?

Again, you are presuming that I am both a Zionist and a Dispensationist. Apparently, you have not heard or are ignoring the fact that the (historic) Premillennialism has existed since the first century a.d. and was adhered to by several of the early Church fathers through the 2nd - 4th centuries.

ya ya. i know the spiel.
you post the list.
then i post the list of thier quotes in context that show they really didn't; or weren't certain; or the later ones were influenced by judaism.

or. you could you just post a clear description of what happens during the millennium and why its is required.
(you can't - so you'll make a huffy remark about something or other and ignore it).

It appears that you are not as familiar with Church history as well you'd like to believe. So much for those biased Reformed history books you are so fond of.

what biased reformed history books?

it appears you don't even know basic human history, even American history as far back as 10 years (or 2 for that matter). if you'd like to, you ought to start before long so you can stop appealing to the fake history the propagandists have spoonfed you (as they laugh you to scorn for being such a sucker, helper to their cause).

 

[cenallen]

Any Premilennial theologian worth his salt

there is no such thing.

understands that we are headed toward the establishment of a unitarian / universalist one world religion where moderate Judaism, Islam and Catholicism will join hands promising peace, in Jerusalem in particular. However, many underestimate the determination of radical orthodox Judaism and Islam thus Middleastern violence will not subside which will embarrass and force the hand of the powers that be to assume control over the City and the Temple Mount thus the son of perdition will make himself known to the population of the world by proclaiming himself as God. However, such an act will only serve to prove to a remnant of Jews that the New Testament is indeed true and that the Messiah is in deed Jesus Christ.

hahahahaha....
that's funny.
and would the bad boy be a pope or a politician?
does he confirm a peace treaty for 7 years?

which 'Premilennial theologians' work can you cite here?
(again, you won't...you'll find a reason to not cite your sources)
thanks for the laugh.

also: ..what remnant of jews?

I don't have a problem with those who attempt to show how Judaism will play a role in end time events. However, I do take issue with those who attempt to demonize Jews above all others when in truth many Muslims and Christians will be deceived and will agree to take part in the universalist agenda for world peace.

oh how PC of you.

ya. and the so-called christians who are deceived are people who believe what you do - the set-up is so transparent but you've spent so many years on your own ultraspiritual (read: pride) crusade, you'd have to humble yourself to stop your apostasy. and you're just too right to ever do that.

Talmudic Judaism is the synagogue of satan, its adherents have been manipulating events for 2000 years (God is using it for the good of His true people, and for His Glory), including easily inserting your laughable 'theology' in through 'bibles', seminaries and commentaries established during your favorite 'church' period.

sorry for you that you've been used like a harlot.
but it takes 2 to tango.

maybe the false signs and wonders parlor tricks were a good trade for accepting the koolaid.

 

[cenallen]

And we listen to men?

Thanks, you just lost any amount of credability on anything you may say. Stop reading the tabloids and conspiracy reports. And try to look at reality. Have a nice day!

all that was to offer others (not you) starting points to prove Reagan wasn't a christian and his administration was one of the most corrupt in american history.
but, you prefer mythology and propaganda to truth.
an insufficient love for the truth is the clearest marker of apostates.

 

[cenallen]

High Council of B’nei Noah
Main article: High Council of B'nei Noah
A High Council of B’nei Noah was endorsed on January 10, 2006 by a group established in Israel in 2004 that claims to be 'the new Sanhedrin'; this Council was set up to represent B'nei Noah communities around the world.[7][8]

Acknowledgment of B'nei Noah

The Chabad-Lubavitch movement has been the most politically active in Noahide matters, believing that there is spiritual value for non-Jews in simply acknowledging the seven laws. In 1991 they had a reference to these laws enshrined in a congressional proclamation: Presidential Proclamation 5956,[9] then-President George H. W. Bush, recalling Joint House Resolution 173, and recalling that the ethical and moral principles of all civilizations come in part from the Seven Noahide Laws, proclaimed March 26, 1991 as "Education Day, U.S.A." Subsequently, Public Law 102-14, formally designated the Lubavitcher Rebbe's birthday as "Education Day, U.S.A.", with Congress recalling that "without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos", and that "society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society".[10]

In April 2006, the spiritual leader of the Druze community in Israel, Sheikh Mowafak Tarif, met with a representative of Chabad-Lubavitch to sign a declaration calling on all non-Jews in Israel to observe the Noahide Laws as laid down in the Bible and expounded upon in Jewish tradition. The mayor of the Galilean city of Shefa-'Amr (Shfaram) — where Muslim, Christian and Druze communities live side-by-side — also signed the document.
In March 2007, Chabad-Lubavitch gathered ambassadors from six different countries to take part in a gathering to declare, in the name of the states they represent, their support of the universal teachings of Noahide Laws. They represented Poland, Latvia, Mexico, Panama, Ghana, and Japan. They were part of a special program organized by Harav Boaz Kali.[11]

In April, the Abu Gosh mayor Salim Jaber accepted the seven Noahide laws as part of a mass rally by Chabad at the Bloomfield Stadium in Tel Aviv.

In May, the newly elected president of France, Nicolas Sarkozy, met with a Chabad-Lubavitch rabbi, Dovid Zaoui, who presented him with literature on the universal teachings of the Noahide Laws.[12]

Noahidism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cenallen]

From their website, NoahideNations:

Who are Noahides? (Just an excerpt)

Briefly, just what is B’nai Noah?

Most simply put, B’nai Noah, or “children of Noah,” is the Talmudic way of referring to all humankind. According to the Bible we are all descendants of one man, namely Noah, after the Flood, and are thus “Children of Noah” (Genesis 10).

You say this concept is in the Talmud. Is it also in the Bible?

Yes, but not by that name.

Is this a religious Faith one can believe and follow?

Not in itself, there is more. Connected to the idea of being a descendant of Noah are the Noahide Laws which express the basic outlines of a full and dynamic relationship with God.

You say the Noahide concept involves a whole Way of life. Can you explain this more?

Following these laws, even if they are expanded into whole categories, does not sound like enough to satisfy the spiritual needs of people? What about prayers, worship, holydays, customs and traditions? Do the Noahites have these?Definitely yes. Noahites are involved, in co-operation with leading rabbis in Israel and the United States in developing prayers, ceremonies, and rituals which are appropriate to them as Gentiles who have attached themselves to the One God of Israel. They are not seeking to begin a new religion. This is forbidden in the Torah. But neither are they seeking to simply “imitate” the Jewish practices. This would only confuse matters further. Most Noahites have turned away from some of the standard holy days of the West, such as Christmas and Easter, with their pagan associations. There is much in the Sacred Calendar of Judaism that is applicable to all humankind. The Sabbath day is first mentioned in Genesis 2, where it is sanctified as a day of rest, a memorial of the creation for humankind. Israel’s Sabbath observance, according to later halacha is another matter. Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, is certainly a day when all human beings, Jew or Gentile, can assemble in a spirit of repentance and reconciliation. Indeed, all the festivals of Israel can be remembered and honored in ways appropriate for Gentiles, but in solidarity with the Jewish people. The Noahites, with orthodox rabbinic input, are developing marriage ceremonies, prayers, and holy day rituals which are appropriate for all humankind.

Frankly, what is happening in our day in somewhat new. We are in a new situation, one we hope, through the grace of HaShem, will lead to Messianic times. In other words, much of this is right now being worked out in many nations in co-operation between Jewish Torah scholars and committed Gentile Noahites. This is in the spirit of Isaiah 2 and 11, which tells of the nations coming to Jerusalem to learn the “Way of HaShem,” leading to Messianic times when the earth is filled with the knowledge of HaShem as the waters cover the sea (see Zech 14:9). Obviously the whole world is not to literally become Jewish. But all nations can be taught of God and learn the Way of God for this planet. The Noahide concept is a beginning of that great goal.

So, does that mean that this Noahide movement is actually rather new? Is it even, perhaps, what we might call a cult or sect?

No, it is quite old! After all, recall, this is the Faith of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Job, and even Abraham (before his circumcision). You could not find a religious Faith on this planet with older roots than the Noahide one! You would hardly call the religion of these Patriarchs a “cult.” It is the very foundation of Western ethical and moral values.

Also, from an historical point of view, the early Gentile participants in the movement that arose around Jesus the Nazarene were actually participating in a version of the B’nai Noah concept. In other words, early Gentile “Christianity,” might be more accurately classified as a messianic B’nai Noah movement, despite the later heretical developments within Christianity which made Jesus a second deity.

Noahide Nations World Conference « Sola Dei Gloria


It is the very foundation of Western ethical and moral values.

sound familiar?

 

[cenallen]

From their website, NoahideNations:

Who are Noahides? (Just an excerpt)

Also, from an historical point of view, the early Gentile participants in the movement that arose around Jesus the Nazarene were actually participating in a version of the B’nai Noah concept. In other words, early Gentile “Christianity,” might be more accurately classified as a messianic B’nai Noah movement, despite the later heretical developments within Christianity which made Jesus a second deity.

Noahide Nations World Conference « Sola Dei Gloria


It is the very foundation of Western ethical and moral values.

sound familiar?

1 Corinthians 3 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

 

[cenallen]

This report was written to demonstrate that the sources used by the Hebraic Roots Movement (Talmud, Mishnah, Midrash, Halakah and Haggada) evolved into and purvey the same occult teachings as the Kabbalah/Zohar, the preeminent compendium of Jewish mysticism. Schools of Kabbalah generally require a knowledge of these Rabbinic sources:

"But the Scripture alone can not show the meanings within. Rabbinic hermeneutics could find a wealth of meaning in the subtlest details of the text, a characteristic that Kabbalistic writing took over. To be able to deal with Kabbalistic texts, and at least be conversant with the literary forms they take, and the references they make to material which their authors assumed 'everyone' would know, the student should at a minimum be at least marginally familiar with the following items...the Talmud (Mishnah and Gemara)...The Midrash... The Siddu, or Prayerbook... Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo ben Yitzchak)... and Rambam (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon or Maimonides)."

That these sources are stepping stones to the occult is a fact of which every student of the Hebraic Roots view of Christianity should be apprised, but all seem to be totally unaware. It is our prayer that the Holy Spirit will reveal to disciples of the Hebraic Roots organizations the truths of Christian liberty expressed in the book of Galatians and lead them out of this movement, which otherwise will eventually deliver them into the Luciferic initiation, the dreadful bondage of the Noahide Laws and the global Kabbalist/Freemasonic New World Order.

The Hebraic Roots Movement

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Last time I checked GE was a publically traded company that only cares about it's bottom line.

In the course of his career as TV spokesman for General Electric and then as US Commander-In-Chief, Ronald Reagan epitomized the tight marriage of interests at the heart of the military-industrial-complex. Reagan was GE's poster boy between 1954 and 1962, the very years when Japan was being force-fed GE's military technology in the name of "Atoms for Peace"

Reagan referred to his GE years as his “post-graduate education in political science” and observed that “it wasn’t a bad apprenticeship for someone who’d someday enter public life.” He spoke of his “self-conversion” during these years, and that he ended up “preaching sermons” about his strongly-held beliefs. His speechwriters at the White House frequently admitted using the speeches of the GE years as the basis of their own efforts.

 

[RedTent]

These are cut and pasted from Cenallen’s posts:

“Reagan was an HOLLYWOOD B actor.”
“and on and on...............but you swallow the koolaid they give you. “
“you do nothing of the sort. its obvious you've gotten your script from others. not study.”
“he would NEVER lead anyone to support the Synagogue of Satan.”
“all because you can not discern the spiritual.”
“nice work whoring for the SoS” (I wonder why Cenallen is so fold of that word?)
“marxist hegelian dialectic:”
“can stop appealing to the fake history the propagandists have spoonfed you (as they laugh you to scorn for being such a sucker, helper to their cause)".

I don’t think someone who talks in accusations and derogatory labels can be taken seriously or believed.

I have noticed that Christians filled with the Holy Spirit often have a kind, pleasant, pleasing look. I wonder what the picture of this person would look like?

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

A conspiriacy is not fact. You have not proven any facts, only presuppositions

The fact is the governor of New York is a Jew (at least an 'ethnic' Jew).

The fact is, this same governor signed homosexuality into law.

The facts pertaining to Reagan and Bush are simple, observable and verifiable, they signed proclamations regarding the Noahide Laws (not 'as' law, but as an affirmation of the Noahide laws as an observation of 'Education Day"). Ditto that Congress's affirmation.

NONE of this is intended, at this point to claim or show a 'conspiracy' as each of these items stand only for themselves. A show of conspiracy would require much more information (factual information) that ties these simple facts to a much broader framework that is tied by a matrix of interactions. Again, no intent here to offend, but only 'speaking the truth in love'. Deeper information may be found on other threads as I encouraged the interested student to pursue in the early opening posts of this forum.

 

[cenallen]

These are cut and pasted from Cenallen’s posts:

I don’t think someone who talks in accusations and derogatory labels can be taken seriously or believed.

I have noticed that Christians filled with the Holy Spirit often have a kind, pleasant, pleasing look. I wonder what the picture of this person would look like?

it doesn't matter what the judaizers say or think of me.
that would be you who follows RAMBAM over Jesus.

RAMBAM said gentiles are monkeys and donkeys.
and christians are idolators.

so why should i speak kindly to a deceiver?
of course you'll try to deflect from the substance of what i posted. it points right to you and your judeo-christianity (a false religion)

 

[systemdown101]

What does "THEREFORE" mean?

I'm not implying any 'conspiracy' in saying that Presidents and Congress have affirmed these laws. I am simply saying that they have affirmed them, which they have. Further I am not saying that these laws have been written into law as they have been affirmed only for "Education Day" which we will try to keep that way, and which we will indeed try to educate on.

All they did was note in the preamble to the laws that they exist, and that only in reference to Rabbi Whatzisname. The preamble to a law has no binding legality, it's essentially a way to sound nice. But the law actually starts when the preamble ends.

what part of this don't you get?
what part of LAW by PRECEDENT don't you understand?
what part of CONGRESS agreeing that supposedly the bedrock of SOCIETY SINCE THE DAWN OF CIVILIZATION HAS BEEN THESE SATANIC NOAHIDE LAWS? dont you get?
can you read?

Switch to decaf. But okay, let's play it your way with another part of the preamble.

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991

Is this part of the law now too? Can you look in your law books and point to where it says that we all acknowledge that on March 26, it's this guys birthday? Does the law MAKE us acknowledge this? Is anyone being thrown in jail because we aren't? Is it?

Of course it isn't, because the preamble to a law isn't the law at all. This is the law:

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as Education Day U.S.A The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

But again: Prove me wrong. The Noahide Laws say that Sexual Immorality must be punished. So do it. Prove to me that Lindsay Lohan has been punished for being promiscuous. Prove to me that every stand-up comedian who has taken the name of the Lord in vain has been arrested. Stop with the conspiracies, stop with mentioning this sinister cabal, just show me where we're rounding up all these violators of the Noahide Laws.

The only doctrine being discussed here that resembles a "cult" is Amilennialism. After all, every cult that has attempted to piggy back on Christianity's back over the centuries believes that we are currently living in the millennium and that they alone are God's chosen people (ie. Catholicism, Mormonism & Jehovah's Witnesses to name a few...)

No one here is endorsing Zionism. We are simply stating that the Amilennial view of a Noahide conspiracy contradicts scripture if indeed we are living in the millennium as Amilennials claim.

It goes a bit deeper than that. You remember last year when the Amillenialists were running amok? There was a definite Cult of Personality going on there. And it gets worse with the True Believers who can't make three sentences without using the words Zionism, Israel, AIPAC, Jews, Freemasons, or an analog to "THEY made or told (fill-in-the-blank) to do it ... !" And the next thing you know, you've got someone throwing around a million names and connecting dots to some huge conspiracy, much like that guy in "A Beautiful Mind" where you saw the descent of a brilliant man into paranoid schizophrenia. And then the next thing you know these people stop following God and start following conspiracy websites ... and anyone who doesn't is a dupe, a pawn, or worse ... must be IN on it ...! *cue sinister laughter*

And NEVER FORGET! True or not, a rattling good conspiracy theory requires the following qualities:

1 it must be difficult, better still, impossible, to understand at first glance.
2 it must contain a spaghetti-heap of leads, all of which cannot be followed up. There must always be one more lead left to chase.
3 The story should speak to a `wider' truth about our society, through a series of disconnected or unconnected or unfalsifiable propositions.
4 There should be no easy way of verifying it.

 

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In the course of his career as TV spokesman for General Electric and then as US Commander-In-Chief, Ronald Reagan epitomized the tight marriage of interests at the heart of the military-industrial-complex. Reagan was GE's poster boy between 1954 and 1962, the very years when Japan was being force-fed GE's military technology in the name of "Atoms for Peace"

Reagan referred to his GE years as his “post-graduate education in political science” and observed that “it wasn’t a bad apprenticeship for someone who’d someday enter public life.” He spoke of his “self-conversion” during these years, and that he ended up “preaching sermons” about his strongly-held beliefs. His speechwriters at the White House frequently admitted using the speeches of the GE years as the basis of their own efforts.

EXCELLENT.
but they won't accept it.
the conditioning to reject the truth at any cost has taken nicely.



General Electric Funds Hitler

Among the early Roosevelt fascist measures was the National Industry Recovery Act (NRA) of June 16, 1933. The origins of this scheme are worth repeating. These ideas were first suggested by Gerard Swope of the General Electric Company ... following this they were adopted by the United States Chamber of Commerce .... (Herbert Hoover, The Memoirs of Herbert Hoover: The Great Depression, 1929-1941, New York: The Macmillan Company, 1952, p. 420)

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_03.htm

'Shoah victims - reincarnated sinners'
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Shas spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef has argued that those murdered in the Holocaust were a reincarnation of sinners from past generations, Ma'ariv reported on Sunday.

In his weekly Saturday evening sermon, whose subject was the period between the 17th of Tamuz and Tisha Be'av fasts, the rabbi explained that on Tamuz 17, a number of calamities had occurred, including the breaching of Jerusalem's walls which led to the destruction of the Temple on Tisha Be'av, as well as the sin of the golden calf which led to the shattering of the Tablets of Stone.

"There is no calamity that the people of Israel suffer that isn't part of [the punishment for] the sin of the golden calf. The tragedies we've endured throughout generations - the Inquisition, the Holocaust - they are all part of the sin of the golden calf," Rabbi Yosef explained.

"After all, people are upset and ask why was there a Holocaust? Woe to us, for we have sinned. Woe to us, for there is nothing we can say to justify it," he said.

"It goes without saying that we believe in reincarnation," continued Yosef. "It is a reincarnation of those souls. Our teacher The Ari said that there are no new souls in our generation…all the souls were once in the world and have returned.

"All those poor people in the Holocaust…we wonder why it was done. There were righteous people among them. Still, they were punished because of sins of past generations."



this gem of a teachings says reincarnated jews died in the holocaust to pay for the sins of the nation.



AskThe Rabbi

Question:
I was told about 600,000 Jewish souls & that there are only 600,000 Jewish souls. Is this a fact & could you explain it. I don't understand how only 600,000 souls are possible with so many more Jewish people in the world. Please explain and thank you.

AskTheRabbi.org answered:
Your question is fascinating and I will try to share some of what I have learned on the subject.

According to the Kabbalists, there were 600,000 Jewish souls that stood at Sinai to receive the Torah. They comprise the "Body" of the unified Jewish People. Together they represented the complete creation of Mankind (before the sin) by God on the sixth day of Creation.

You ask: What about today and the millions of Jews that live today in the world? How do the numbers fit?

The answer is that each Jew has a Jewish soul, but not necessarily an entire soul of someone who stood at Sinai. We each have at least part of one of the the souls of the people there, and possibly various parts of different people who stood at Sinai. Pieces of souls. However, the pieces that we have were given to us by God in order that we have a unique purpose in our lives.

This may sound strange, and I admit that it is beyond my comprehension, but it is our tradition, and the classical Jewish sources and teachings - from generation to generation - back this up. I personally do not feel it is something to dwell on, except to the extent that it will help us come closer to understanding God and our purpose in our lives.

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