I do not deny that I had Hebrews 12:6 in mind when I pronounced the blessing on him that the Lord receive him as a son.
But I will leave it up to him to respond, as to whether or not he intended that I be blessed on the earth but be cursed in eternity.
When I give a scripture (such as Psalms 62:4), I consider that the scripture in question may or may not apply.
His reaction told me that it did apply; but I could be wrong in my assessment.
For instead of simply saying that the scripture in question did not apply to him, he protested that it does apply to me;
But I will leave it up to him to respond, as to whether or not he intended that I be blessed on the earth but be cursed in eternity.
When I give a scripture (such as Psalms 62:4), I consider that the scripture in question may or may not apply.
His reaction told me that it did apply; but I could be wrong in my assessment.
For instead of simply saying that the scripture in question did not apply to him, he protested that it does apply to me;
if / when we cannot get through to someone.... even with much speaking... even perhaps from the Spirit itself -- speaking through us (and / if we were to know that it does /or even just think that it does)... but hearts or minds seem to remain closed to us (and/or to the Spirit ?)... the best we can / might do might be to wish them /another well on their journey... in this life.
journeys in the hereafter? God knows.
For that is what Matthew 7:1-5 tells us; and that is what Luke 6:41-42 tells us; that when a person judges someone else, it is because they are guilty of the same thing.
And, I do not deny that I am guilty of "cursing inwardly" in the blessing that I have pronounced; for I considered that he had cursed me first.
At least the blessing and curse that I pronounced would amount to eternal blessing though a temporal cursing; while it seemed to me that his blessing was temporal and his cursing eternal.
But, perhaps I misread what he was saying and he only intended a blessing that is both temporal and eternal.
And, I do not deny that I am guilty of "cursing inwardly" in the blessing that I have pronounced; for I considered that he had cursed me first.
At least the blessing and curse that I pronounced would amount to eternal blessing though a temporal cursing; while it seemed to me that his blessing was temporal and his cursing eternal.
But, perhaps I misread what he was saying and he only intended a blessing that is both temporal and eternal.
yes, you may be seeing curses when there were really only a blessing and / or farewell ? if we judge others by our own beliefs, we can forget / not bring to mind that the other does not think or believe like us... always or of necessity -- the other before us anywhere -- always an individual and unique and different. from us.
"For that is what Matthew 7:1-5 tells us; and that is what Luke 6:41-42 tells us; that when a person judges someone else, it is because they are guilty of the same thing."
you may be seeing judging -- by applying your beliefs and ideas, feelings -- to them, when they do not think always or much like you and were not intending according to the other (yourself), but according to their own mind / beliefs ... and also intent, which I think (speaking for myself... so maybe applies in general or to many, though not all) can be mixed. but not all are as mixed as many might be -- intending well, or thinking they do, but conflicted also... at times.
some [God knows each heart] are [maybe] shining more and more unto the day that is coming, or already do shine quite bright perhaps.. or in ways, or at times.
and so to read some people's writings through the filter of our own heart can dim the other's intent / meaning down quite a lot... even to the point of total misunderstanding -- for the Light is quite different, than the Dark... the darkness in ourselves 'shines' out to the one who can sense it. and some are not very much in the Dark, while many will be... and stumbling... but the Light (Spirit) sees.