What Does It Teach Us?

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Cameron143

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Romans 1:20 tells us that the invisible things of God can be understood by the things that are seen.
In John 3 Jesus tells Nicodemus that he must be born again.
Does physical birth teach anything concerning spiritual birth? If so, what?
 

Magenta

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Yes it did. I did not see it coming.
It's straight from the Bible!

“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter
his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
Nicodemus to Jesus in John 3:4

:D
 

Cameron143

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It's straight from the Bible!

“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter
his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”
Nicodemus to Jesus in John 3:4

:D
Yes, I understand it's a natural question to ask. It was such a quick turn to the comical rather than the serious that I was referring to.
 

Magenta

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I don't know. I fell asleep watching the movie.
I do not recall the ending either .:unsure:

Yes, I understand it's a natural question to ask. It was such a quick turn to the comical rather than the serious that I was referring to.
Asking about the fictional character of Benjamin Buttons is being serious? .:unsure::giggle:
 

Cameron143

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I do not recall the ending either .:unsure:


Asking about the fictional character of Benjamin Buttons is being serious?
No. It certainly isn't. So I now congratulate myself for the fastest derailing in history of one's own thread.
 

Magenta

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That's what I said but my therapist uses the term self-destructive.
Is this supposed to be about whether we can or cannot lose our salvation?

When Jesus says He will lose none of whom the Father gives Him, and Paul iterates that nothing
can separate us from the love of God, is this not an affirmation that salvation cannot be lost?
 

Cameron143

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Is this supposed to be about whether we can or cannot lose our salvation?

When Jesus says He will lose none of whom the Father gives Him, and Paul iterates that nothing
can separate us from the love of God, is this not an affirmation that salvation cannot be lost?
That certainly would be one aspect of the discussion. We cannot undo being born. Likewise, we do not possess the ability to make ourselves unborn spiritually.
But there's probably much more there.
 

Magenta

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That certainly would be one aspect of the discussion. We cannot undo being born.
Likewise, we do not possess the ability to make ourselves unborn spiritually.
But there's probably much more there.

Philippians 1:6
:)
 

Mem

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If the Bible were written during our time, how many times would Jesus have had to said, "No, I didn't say that!
I said this!"?
 

Mem

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The OP threw me into a wondering loop about the significance of The Father saying, "This day I have begotten Thee" after the Holy Spirit alit upon Jesus... It seems certain that there's a connection there, somewhere, to being born (again)?