What does the Bible Discussion Forum need?

[posthuman]

Greater participation by one and all. There is a huge disproportion between participants and viewers.

yes

but i think people are often intimidated to engage, because a lot of us ((myself in particular)) have little tact, are poor at gentleness, and wind up being much harsher with our replies than we actually mean ((or at least ought)) to be.

i understand that, that we are passionate about spiritual things, and are convinced in ourselves of truths, but well, we need humility and to accept one another in weakness "but not to doubtful disputations" -- which is a very awkward & potentially misleading rendition ((to modern English-speakers)) in the KJV of Romans 14:1

i've put some amount of prayer, study and discussion into those words, and i think the Berean Literal Bible translates this phrase in a way much more accurately understood:

Now receive the one being weak in the faith, not for passing judgment on reasonings.​

that strike any chords with anyone but me?

 

[joefizz]

What does the bible discussion forum need???
hmmm discussions,answers,and questions that "have points" would be a nice improvement.

 

[joefizz]

Having an "End" to a discussion would also be nice.

 

[posthuman]

how about less threads where people ask questions that they think they already know the answer to, posted just hoping someone will disagree with them so they can stab at them with their sword . . .

i study medieval longsword, and this can be likened to facing your opponent with your spiritual sword in the guard known as "alber" or "fool's guard"



which is just begging them to strike at your upper openings, because they look unguarded:



but this is a verführen - "deception" the intent is to entice the opponent to commit themselves forward towards your head with a strike from above, which because of body mechanics has a shorter reach and takes a longer time from the moment one acts to strike until impact than what is quickly and easily done from alber:



simply raise your sword from the ground and point it at the opponents face or at their neck from below the chin, with arms fully extended, so that they run into it and die. the blow they intended to strike can then be parried shortly by raising the elbows and angling up the hilt of your own sword.






is the analogy clear?

 

[Locutus]

how about less threads where people ask questions that they think they already know the answer to, posted just hoping someone will disagree with them so they can stab at them with their sword . . .

[video=youtube;VYPsoxpt0BU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPsoxpt0BU[/video]

 

[MarcR]

More civility

Expectation that someone is likely to disagree with you.

 

[G00WZ]

I notice a lot of people talking about the BDF mostly in "I don't go in here for this" and "I don't come in here for that person," etc etc. I will admit I don't frequent it often because I'm not well read in His word I'll admit. But y'all who frequent it, what do you think?

What do you think it lacks? What do you get from it? What does it need? What kind of people would you like to participate?

It doesn't really need anything, but people need to be educated on what it is though, some new people go in there to have a legitimate discussion about something, while others are in there only to argue/ debate.. Spiritual people and carnally minded people shouldn't really mix, because its like oil and water, the spiritual person is constantly trying to grow while the carnally minded one will just go in circles with opinions and try to lead others to do the same... But it is good for some though, but it isn't for everyone.

 

[OneFaith]

I notice a lot of people talking about the BDF mostly in "I don't go in here for this" and "I don't come in here for that person," etc etc. I will admit I don't frequent it often because I'm not well read in His word I'll admit. But y'all who frequent it, what do you think?

What do you think it lacks? What do you get from it? What does it need? What kind of people would you like to participate?

There is a bit of rudeness, but necessarily so. Those who call others answers "laughable" and say "poppycock!" Show a sign that they are not truly from Jesus, and most likely their words aren't either. "...but have not love, you gain nothing." This is not an entertainment forum. This is real life- the battle of truth vs lies. Some don't realize they've been taught lies. But this is the real stuff that effects where souls go after they die. We are all to search for the truth with all our hearts.

I didn't realize when I joined what I realize now. I imagined people sharing their thoughts about their own studies, and considering the thoughts of others. Instead I find questions meant to trip you up like "Can God make a rock so big He can't pick it up?" And a score system like "Haha I proved you wrong!" I have to state when I see something clearly don't match scripture, but I certainly don't have that attitude.

So there are roadblocks to get around, and some think it is not worth the trouble. But we are called to search for truth, and to share that truth with others- even if we must ignore the debris.

 

[followjesus]

I like it....I like the banter, heated discussions, exchanging sword blows with those that oppose any and all views held by whomever.....My view.....we live in an age when many are easily offended and when the rubber really meets the road which is coming soon on a planet near you....those who are strong in faith will be separated from those who are weak and easily offended.....if some cannot endure a little heat over what they believe....no way they can endure what is really coming

also alot of people i think take offense when none is intended, its the One thing about communicating on the internet you cant always properly take the tone of what someone is saying. you are very right about the society at least in america, it has become a greater ill that what someone says "offended me" than whether what they said is true or not. Love sometimes doesnt care if a kid is offended, its more concerned with keeping the Kid out of the speeding traffic.

Ive taken some whoopins in my day, alot of scoldings......But though it wasnt the most pleasant feeling, it was from Love and it turned me from danger. Id rather offend someone telling the truth, than comfort someone with a lie or omission.

 

[loveme1]

Hahahhaahahahaha I about spit my coffee all over the place when I seen you had written this.........

I would say less of this... there is banter and then there is uncalled for posts.. though I don't agree with DC ....I would not want anyone to add a post like this toward him either...


common courtesy would be nice.. because it is not the heat but the example we are to be to the world in Christ that shines His Light to those in the darkness..

 

[followjesus]

Having an "End" to a discussion would also be nice.

it should end where the scripture takes it, in this particular forum anyways.

 

[followjesus]

I feel like any mention of drinking, smoking, tattoos, piercings, or being a democrat will be met with much concern. But it would at my church too.

i think more acknowledgement of our own flaws and Honesty about our struggles would be a great thing. alot i feel dont mention things Like that, for fear of judgement and finger pointing.

 

[Locutus]

Another tongues thread.

 

[Desertsrose]

I notice a lot of people talking about the BDF mostly in "I don't go in here for this" and "I don't come in here for that person," etc etc. I will admit I don't frequent it often because I'm not well read in His word I'll admit. But y'all who frequent it, what do you think?

What do you think it lacks? What do you get from it? What does it need? What kind of people would you like to participate?

I would love to see someone who has the gift of teaching begin some actual bible studies in the BDF. Maybe the use of a study guide would be helpful and we all would follow along with discussion and questions and being taught what the word of God is saying.

I don't know if that's doable here, but I think it would have to be something sanctioned by the CC leadership and put into place by them as well.

It seems there needs to be some type of leadership that others would submit to and usually when a person is gifted, the gifting itself would illicit honor and respect. At least I think it would by true believers who will recognize them as being gifted.

So maybe my expectations are too high, I dunno........but that's what I'd love to see happen.

Ahwatukee is doing a blog on Revelation if anyone is interested in following along and commenting or ask questions.

 

[Desertsrose]

I notice a lot of people talking about the BDF mostly in "I don't go in here for this" and "I don't come in here for that person," etc etc. I will admit I don't frequent it often because I'm not well read in His word I'll admit. But y'all who frequent it, what do you think?

What do you think it lacks? What do you get from it? What does it need? What kind of people would you like to participate?

I have to also say this.

I'd love to see Christians act like grown-ups instead of kids. The works thread is one of the worst I've seen. So many ugly comments and slinging mud. Anyone can belittle, call names, make fun and accuse others of things not meant or implied. It's the ugliest thread that I've visited.

We are to love enough to want to help instead of hurt others. Even if a person is wrong, they don't deserve the treatment that some give others who are brothers and sisters in the Lord.

And even if one doesn't think they are a brother or sister in the Lord, where's the love and concern to help them come to know the Lord. Refute what they're saying if they're wrong with scripture instead of throwing names, poking fun at and the like at them. Care for them, love them into the kingdom. Do we want them to go to heaven? Or do we want to see them in hell?

To me, I think the Lord is concerned about our character and how we interact with others. Are we carnal and fleshly, or are we bearing the fruit of the Spirit in our walk and in our speech and in our interactions with others. Is Christ being revealed through what we say and how we act or is it us that they see........the old carnal yucky flesh.

 

[followjesus]

the crazy thing about the works thread is there is also so much amazing insight scattered in there (from both sides of the debate), but it gets drowned out by the same ongoing arguments. you can literally look ten pages later and the same points of discussion are raised and the same insults are slung, again by both sides of the ongoing argument.

i can never spend much time there because i too get involved in the same things never a name call or personal insult, but still the wrong presentation that probably needs to be done better with more care. there really is good value there from many people, even those i disagree often with raise good points and share good scriptures and insights, its just that the arguments and things you mentioned sort of become a bit toxic

 

[heartofdavid]

the option to edit without the 5 minute rule.
5 minutes is a bit ridiculous.

 

[loveme1]

the option to edit without the 5 minute rule.
5 minutes is a bit ridiculous.

You can always update your post with another post to edify anything that you may of worded wrong etc..

 

[BenFTW]

I would love to see someone who has the gift of teaching begin some actual bible studies in the BDF. Maybe the use of a study guide would be helpful and we all would follow along with discussion and questions and being taught what the word of God is saying.

I don't know if that's doable here, but I think it would have to be something sanctioned by the CC leadership and put into place by them as well.

It seems there needs to be some type of leadership that others would submit to and usually when a person is gifted, the gifting itself would illicit honor and respect. At least I think it would by true believers who will recognize them as being gifted.

So maybe my expectations are too high, I dunno........but that's what I'd love to see happen.

Ahwatukee is doing a blog on Revelation if anyone is interested in following along and commenting or ask questions.

We have plenty of teachers, we need students. We need listeners. We need humility. We need to be open minded, yet not so much so that we'd be deceived. We must understand the foundation that is Christ, and continue to grow in revelation of the truth. Humility both from the teachers and the audience reading. Meekness and respect.

I've chatted with people here and after a certain point you know when someone is receptive to the truth. Oftentimes the giveaway is that they are dismissive not trying to understand but just stuck in their ways unwilling to learn. Intent can be read, and unfortunately some aren't here to build up but tear down, breaking unity.

What does the BDF need? Humility, meekness and respect. However, and praise God, seeds can be sown. Truth chipping away at the walls of deception. May the Lord soften hearts and give us ears to hear that which we need to hear this day.

 

[Magenta]

Another tongues thread.

Are you sure we need another tongues' thread?

Here is a tongues' post instead:

































































































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