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They worshipped him as one God
[h=3]1 Corinthians 8:6[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him
Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
All things are of the Father and all things by our Lord why are they not sharing with the holy spirit...There is no trinity
[h=3]1 Corinthians 8:6[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him
Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
All things are of the Father and all things by our Lord why are they not sharing with the holy spirit...There is no trinity
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Hi Catherine.... There is only One God. That's an ultimate Biblical truth. In the mean time if you look at the bible for who the Father is you would find, Father is that one and Only God, surprisingly you will get the same answer if you ask who the Son is or Holy Spirit is!!!! You may read my article on Godhead.... It's a new approach to explain Godhead.... you may read it here.. http://bit.ly/1lGSDJE
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Hi Br. Bowman.... Your question is simple and the answer is the simplest.... You may read my article on Godhead.... It's a new approach to explain Godhead.... you may read it here.. http://bit.ly/1lGSDJE
[h=3]1 Corinthians 15:24-28[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
- Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Trinity:-
1. A group or set of three people or things; Triad; Trio; Trine.
2. The state of being three; Threeness.
In the Holy Bible and it's sound doctrine knowledge teaches us that, yes, GOD is 'one'. But also in the New Testament, witnesses personally, even those who were beside HIM, testified and have been recorded, that we learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, that here on earth the Kingdom of GOD and GOD's manifestation was witnessed by many, even until today around the world, is seen only in the SON, by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT who is for the SON and they have accomplished Salvation, in order that all mankind may be reconciled, declaring Good news and peace, an escape from HIS wrath.
And further believe in HIS SON and the Teacher, the HOLY SPIRIT and through HIS 'abiding' servants and furthermore 'abide/continue/keep' HIS words and love, and be fruitful and their fruit must also 'abide'.
GOD did not act on HIS own, nor did the SON and nor did the HOLY SPIRIT, to disregard 'Trinity'.
1. A group or set of three people or things; Triad; Trio; Trine.
2. The state of being three; Threeness.
In the Holy Bible and it's sound doctrine knowledge teaches us that, yes, GOD is 'one'. But also in the New Testament, witnesses personally, even those who were beside HIM, testified and have been recorded, that we learn by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, that here on earth the Kingdom of GOD and GOD's manifestation was witnessed by many, even until today around the world, is seen only in the SON, by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT who is for the SON and they have accomplished Salvation, in order that all mankind may be reconciled, declaring Good news and peace, an escape from HIS wrath.
And further believe in HIS SON and the Teacher, the HOLY SPIRIT and through HIS 'abiding' servants and furthermore 'abide/continue/keep' HIS words and love, and be fruitful and their fruit must also 'abide'.
GOD did not act on HIS own, nor did the SON and nor did the HOLY SPIRIT, to disregard 'Trinity'.
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See there is only one God
John 16:13-16
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
John 14:18
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[h=3]John 10:27-31[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]I and my Father are one.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
- 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
John 16:13-16
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
John 14:18
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[h=3]John 10:27-31[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]I and my Father are one.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
The Gospel records to all believers who have come to CHRIST by the Help of GOD the HOLY SPIRIT, that written in the 'Transfiguration' of JESUS of Nazareth, the Living GOD from Heaven HIMSELF confessed in the presence of Moses and Elijah and James, Peter and John were made witnessed to all of this to believe and give an account to all even us today, including hearing GOD'S own voice who have already proclaim about HIS only chosen SON, JESUS, for all in Heaven and on earth to honor, that HIS fullness and likeness is only seen in the SON (even angels did not receive such a title).
GOD said;
"This is my dearly beloved begotten SON, in 'whom' I AM well pleased. Listen to everything HE says."
Only those who come through the SON, who is the 'door/gate' by the Helper's help, the HOLY SPIRIT, further believing in the SON's words and love, who is the only heart pleasing of the FATHER, given HE and brought JESUS, Grace and Truth of the Kingdom of GOD, making peace, sent as the 'Light for the world', in order for those who believe in HIM, further 'abide' in all of them that HE commanded and instructed and do them and be 'fruitful'. (That is why the church were persecuted for 'abiding' and their fruits who also 'abide' in all of them and continued for them. The true Kingdom of GOD always faced violent men who want to take it by force. But they even laid down their lives, even to their human enemies and this is truthfully considered as Living Truth established sound doctrine knowledge of 'Victorious Perseverance', one of true repentance and true love, without violence in return in order to save another who is doing them in ignorance)
The similarity of having faith and with works in all of them, as the truth tree and true fruits of HIS imitation, representing in the likeness and fullness of the SON, as how HIS 'abiding' chosen servants performed, as recorded in the Holy Bible for all of us to witness and be the same imitating witnesses. And this proves to those who are witnessing that we are 'one' with them and they are 'one' with us.
Then only the SON and the FATHER was truly in and with them and now also in us. No one and even those who claim as HIS gifted representatives, can take a short cut or go ahead or neglect or ignore all that is written in the New Covenant in whole. Those who do such things, JESUS says;
"Are robbers and thieves who have climb in and have not come through ME, the 'door/gate' to MY lambs and sheep."
GOD said;
"This is my dearly beloved begotten SON, in 'whom' I AM well pleased. Listen to everything HE says."
Only those who come through the SON, who is the 'door/gate' by the Helper's help, the HOLY SPIRIT, further believing in the SON's words and love, who is the only heart pleasing of the FATHER, given HE and brought JESUS, Grace and Truth of the Kingdom of GOD, making peace, sent as the 'Light for the world', in order for those who believe in HIM, further 'abide' in all of them that HE commanded and instructed and do them and be 'fruitful'. (That is why the church were persecuted for 'abiding' and their fruits who also 'abide' in all of them and continued for them. The true Kingdom of GOD always faced violent men who want to take it by force. But they even laid down their lives, even to their human enemies and this is truthfully considered as Living Truth established sound doctrine knowledge of 'Victorious Perseverance', one of true repentance and true love, without violence in return in order to save another who is doing them in ignorance)
The similarity of having faith and with works in all of them, as the truth tree and true fruits of HIS imitation, representing in the likeness and fullness of the SON, as how HIS 'abiding' chosen servants performed, as recorded in the Holy Bible for all of us to witness and be the same imitating witnesses. And this proves to those who are witnessing that we are 'one' with them and they are 'one' with us.
Then only the SON and the FATHER was truly in and with them and now also in us. No one and even those who claim as HIS gifted representatives, can take a short cut or go ahead or neglect or ignore all that is written in the New Covenant in whole. Those who do such things, JESUS says;
"Are robbers and thieves who have climb in and have not come through ME, the 'door/gate' to MY lambs and sheep."
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What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
Answer:
NOTHING!
The Bible does teach this... If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
If Father God and Son Jesus will come and make "OUR ABODE" with the one that keep His words, how do they do it? How does God the Father and Jesus the Son make "OUR ABODE" with a man that keep His words? Is this not the ONLY Way? 2 John 7:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
So we see Father God and Jesus are truly..... I and my Father are one.
Answer:
NOTHING!
The Bible does teach this... If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
If Father God and Son Jesus will come and make "OUR ABODE" with the one that keep His words, how do they do it? How does God the Father and Jesus the Son make "OUR ABODE" with a man that keep His words? Is this not the ONLY Way? 2 John 7:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
So we see Father God and Jesus are truly..... I and my Father are one.
John 6:43-45
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP]Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 12:31-33
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]This he said, signifying what death he should die.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP]Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 12:31-33
King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]This he said, signifying what death he should die.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
- 1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
i do not need according to the gift i have of wisdom of the Scripture, to quote. But to believers who have been taught by the HOLY SPIRIT know the Scripture well. i am merely an unworthy servant who reminds and stir up memories of the taught Scripture. You who are gifted in Scripture quoting, can assist to quote for the LORD JESUS CHRIST in service to HIM and not me. You are helping others as you are gifted and taught and not on your own, in order to build and edify.
Stop being proud, for the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT is distributed and i am no better than you and you are no better than me, but we all are accountable for not obeying GOD and doing HIS will, ourselves in our given lives, in order for others to witness the 'Light of this world' in us according to the Word in obedience and also it is written in the New Covenant regarding faith and works, even today our highlighted negligence to comply.
For this, it is already been written and established by "the author and finisher of our faith", for our own witnessing in our given lives first. Apart from this and continuing only in the gifts and not in the truth, will be liable to as it is written:
"...................................accumulating trouble for ourselves on judgement day."
Stop being proud, for the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT is distributed and i am no better than you and you are no better than me, but we all are accountable for not obeying GOD and doing HIS will, ourselves in our given lives, in order for others to witness the 'Light of this world' in us according to the Word in obedience and also it is written in the New Covenant regarding faith and works, even today our highlighted negligence to comply.
For this, it is already been written and established by "the author and finisher of our faith", for our own witnessing in our given lives first. Apart from this and continuing only in the gifts and not in the truth, will be liable to as it is written:
"...................................accumulating trouble for ourselves on judgement day."
i accept in humble and humility and being lower than you, your apology. We are called, when possessing the HOLY SPIRIT distributed gifts, to work together in unity and first of all, you can discern for yourself my utterance is also from Scripture, but spoken in the gift of wisdom.
Stephen in the book of Acts did not have a Torah or any present doctrine documents in his hands and ever quoted from them, in order to minister unto the ignorant Jews. But since it is written he was blessed with HOLY SPIRIT and Fire, he spoke plainly and openly, in wisdom, ministering to the Jews in a brief moment, beginning from the story of Abraham until Jesus of Nazareth whom they have crucified.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless and reward you, for your humble and humility towards HIS least important servant.
Stephen in the book of Acts did not have a Torah or any present doctrine documents in his hands and ever quoted from them, in order to minister unto the ignorant Jews. But since it is written he was blessed with HOLY SPIRIT and Fire, he spoke plainly and openly, in wisdom, ministering to the Jews in a brief moment, beginning from the story of Abraham until Jesus of Nazareth whom they have crucified.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless and reward you, for your humble and humility towards HIS least important servant.
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If Jesus is not God? Then God is an Idolater!
I am a little confused about some Bible texts: Yes I am not a novice in Bible study.
Matthew 1: 23 (ISV) says: “See, a virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son (Jesus), and they will name him (Jesus) Immanuel,”[a) which means, “God (ho theos) with us.”
Is Jesus name Immanuel? God with us! The greek word (ho theos) is used here. The beginning of John 1:1 says: In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Logos) was with God (ho theos)..." Same exact word to describe God! Jesus is the wORD because John 1:14 says "The Word became flesh..."
Help me understand? The rest of John 1:1 says: "...the Word (Jesus) was God (theos)'.
Stiil more confusion? Is not God only able to create? Is Jesus a created being or Creator?
Romans 1:25 says: "They exchanged God’s truth for a lie and worshipped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen". People who worship and serve created things, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God.
Why does Colossians 1:16 say Jesus Created ALL things? I thought only God can create?
Colossians 1:16 says: "For by him ALL things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
Still more confusion? Exodus 20 :3-5 - "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not bow down to them or worship them". NOT BOW DOWN OR WORSHIP!
Yet Philippians 2:9-11 says:" ...At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven, on earth, and under the earth".
This sounds like Idolatry if Jesus is a created being and not our Creator God. And of all things God is the Idolater. Breaking His own commands. The problem Malachi 3;6 says: “I am the LORD, and I do not change. God cannot change His mind and change His rules.
Still more confusion: Isaiah 42:8 says: “I am the LORD; that is my name my glory I give to no other…” God does not share His glory!
Yet we read in 2 Peter 1: 17: For he (Jesus) received honor and glory from God the Father when these words from the Majestic Glory were spoken about him: “This is my Son, whom I love. I am pleased with him.”
Again, this sounds like Idolatry if Jesus is a created being and not our Creator God. Jesus can only be same one God!
Can you help me out concerning these passages?
I am a little confused about some Bible texts: Yes I am not a novice in Bible study.
Matthew 1: 23 (ISV) says: “See, a virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son (Jesus), and they will name him (Jesus) Immanuel,”[a) which means, “God (ho theos) with us.”
Is Jesus name Immanuel? God with us! The greek word (ho theos) is used here. The beginning of John 1:1 says: In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Logos) was with God (ho theos)..." Same exact word to describe God! Jesus is the wORD because John 1:14 says "The Word became flesh..."
Help me understand? The rest of John 1:1 says: "...the Word (Jesus) was God (theos)'.
Stiil more confusion? Is not God only able to create? Is Jesus a created being or Creator?
Romans 1:25 says: "They exchanged God’s truth for a lie and worshipped and served the creation rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen". People who worship and serve created things, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God.
Why does Colossians 1:16 say Jesus Created ALL things? I thought only God can create?
Colossians 1:16 says: "For by him ALL things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
Still more confusion? Exodus 20 :3-5 - "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not bow down to them or worship them". NOT BOW DOWN OR WORSHIP!
Yet Philippians 2:9-11 says:" ...At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven, on earth, and under the earth".
This sounds like Idolatry if Jesus is a created being and not our Creator God. And of all things God is the Idolater. Breaking His own commands. The problem Malachi 3;6 says: “I am the LORD, and I do not change. God cannot change His mind and change His rules.
Still more confusion: Isaiah 42:8 says: “I am the LORD; that is my name my glory I give to no other…” God does not share His glory!
Yet we read in 2 Peter 1: 17: For he (Jesus) received honor and glory from God the Father when these words from the Majestic Glory were spoken about him: “This is my Son, whom I love. I am pleased with him.”
Again, this sounds like Idolatry if Jesus is a created being and not our Creator God. Jesus can only be same one God!
Can you help me out concerning these passages?
The problem with such numerical error stems from (intentional) mis-translation of the Hebrew word translated as one!
Dt 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
KJV
The Hebrew word translated as one is אֶחָֽד ׁ(Echad) ; which signifies composite unity.
The spies sent to examine Jericho brought back one אֶחָֽד ׁ(Echad) cluster of grapes [one cluster many grapes) (Nu 13:23).
A pod of 3 peas is still 1 pod of peas. A God of 3 distinct persons is still 1 God.
Dt 6:4
4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:
KJV
The Hebrew word translated as one is אֶחָֽד ׁ(Echad) ; which signifies composite unity.
The spies sent to examine Jericho brought back one אֶחָֽד ׁ(Echad) cluster of grapes [one cluster many grapes) (Nu 13:23).
A pod of 3 peas is still 1 pod of peas. A God of 3 distinct persons is still 1 God.