What does this mean: "I have said, Ye are gods..."

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i think im might understand your confusion.
do you think that if one acknowledges other gods exist, it means they bow down, pray and worship other gods?
No, it means you have other gods besides the one and only god. It means you are a polytheist who believes in the existence of more than oone god.
 
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Look at the NIV, NASB note for "before" it means "besides". Not in a hierachy lineup of other gods. It means you are to have no other god before His face. God is to be your only god.
notes are not scripture.
having another god is not the same is believing other gods exist. especially when the scripture mentions other gods many many many times.
 
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notes are not scripture.
having another god is not the same is believing other gods exist. especially when the scripture mentions other gods many many many times.
It is a translation note meaning the translators say can be translated as "besides". So yes, it is Scripture.
 
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No, it means you have other gods besides the one and only god. It means you are a polytheist who believes in the existence of more than oone god.
so if one believes the scriptures it means they are polytheist being as the scriptures mention other gods?
 
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notes are not scripture.
having another god is not the same is believing other gods exist. especially when the scripture mentions other gods many many many times.
And the Scripture also mentions they aren't real gods.
 
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so if one believes the scriptures it means they are polytheist being as the scriptures mention other gods?
You are a polytheist if you believe more than one gods exists. Paul says for us there is only one god because only one god exists.
 
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And the Scripture also mentions they aren't real gods.
Ex 12 12
For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord.

so in this passage the Most High is going to pass judgment on figments of our imagination?
 
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You are a polytheist if you believe more than one gods exists. Paul says for us there is only one god because only one god exists.
Paul says there is only one Most High. the other gods are not the Most High.
 
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Ex 12 12
For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord.

so in this passage the Most High is going to pass judgment on figments of our imagination?
You are not interpreting those in light of this:

We know that the false gods in this world don’t really exist and that no god exists except the one God. People may say that there are gods in heaven and on earth—many gods and many Lords, as they would call them.
1 Corinthians 8:4*-‬5 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/1co.8.4-5.GW
 

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What if you were to use the accepted meaning of elohim from the time of the writings?

The only Elohim Who is without beginning and without end is our Father, however when He used the word in His commandment it was accepted at the time that the meaning is this, "You shall have no mighty ones besides Me."

Since Hebrew does not give capital letters to anything for there are none, it cannot b e proven by this trace,however the then definition does........

Look it up in various sources, and you will find it was applied to men of honor, magistrates, strong men, valorous men etc, and even to those falsely deemed as what we consider a god, that is, an idol.

There is only one true Elohim, and He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This is why the plural, Elohim, is employed in this instance and not the singular, el howeer if we do say El it is to God as One, such as on the Cross.

Jesus said my God, my God, or Eli, Eli. The i suffix converts the noun to as having the first person possessive in English before El....my.
 
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Paul says there is only one Most High. the other gods are not the Most High.
Read this. There exists only one god.

We know that the false gods in this world don’t really exist and that no god exists except the one God. People may say that there are gods in heaven and on earth—many gods and many Lords, as they would call them.
1 Corinthians 8:4*-‬5 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/1co.8.4-5.GW

I'm done now. I pray you dig this passage out from the trash can where you tossed it after you tore it out from your bible and threw it away.
 
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You are not interpreting those in light of this:

We know that the false gods in this world don’t really exist and that no god exists except the one God. People may say that there are gods in heaven and on earth—many gods and many Lords, as they would call them.
1 Corinthians 8:4*-‬5 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/1co.8.4-5.GW
no worries, maybe i am understanding it all wrong. please explain to me how the Most High passes judgment on beings that do not exist.
 
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Read this. There exists only one god.

We know that the false gods in this world don’t really exist and that no god exists except the one God. People may say that there are gods in heaven and on earth—many gods and many Lords, as they would call them.
1 Corinthians 8:4*-‬5 GW
https://bible.com/bible/70/1co.8.4-5.GW


i agree with Paul, an idol has no real existence.

I'm done now. I pray you dig this passage out from the trash can where you tossed it after you tore it out from your bible and threw it away.
i have to admit that was pretty funny.
have a great Sunday and i hope i didnt make you blow a gasket.

Praise His name!
 

JaumeJ

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Praise God for this lively and most blessed dialogue, amen.
 

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There are no other gods
There is only one God

people, spirits, can claim they are “gods” all they want but they aren’t.

And it is clear to those to whom the WORD of GOD has come that these have not received THE TRUTH, and to them the Word of GOD has not come

and as such, they do not have eternal life
 

JaumeJ

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Not if you have read and understood my posts., and certain others'.
 

miknik5

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Not if you have read and understood my posts., and certain others'.
Oh I have understood
I have understood both points

psslm 82 is sarcastic

or in light of John 10 to whom the word of GOD has come, I understand more clearly to mean ye are “gods” not because there are any gods, or that we are gods, (apart from being in and remaining in CHRIST, the source and root of our “holiness) but because to us the word of GOD has indeed come and because we have received HIM and believe, we have eternal life
 
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miknik5

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Now it’s gone into a discussion of multiple gods which there are no other gods but the GOD and FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST

And if there are people and spirits suggesting they are gods they are nothing more than liars