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The Christian life is not a school and you get no prize for effort. By the way, immolate means to kill or offer as a sacrifice by burning. I don't plan to do that.

The Christian life is rest, not striving. When we walk in the Spirit, it is Christ in us who empowers us. We need to rest in the finished work of Christ in His death and resurrection. It's new life in Christ, not trying to live up to an impossible standard. The new covenant of grace was necessary because the old covenant of Laws was ineffective. We read in the Bible that we are the problem, not the Law. You will also find that the Law is shallow compared to what God really expects from us. Only Jesus kept and fulfilled the Law. God is only pleasd with Jesus. When you live in total and humble dependence on Him, you will find that the burden of trying is replaced with the joy of trusting. Everything is easy if someone else is going it for you. Let Jesus live out His life in you and through you. You will have to ask Him, it's not automatic. I have zero confidence in my ability to please God. I have every confidence in Jesus, who is my Lord, my Life, my Righteousness and Holiness. It does not get any better than that.
can you show me, the actual 4 Commandments, that can technically be considered part of the LAW?

the First 4 are definitely Commands to not commit offense to God and His Creation.

So, since 6 of the Commandments, have NOTHING to do with the Law, why is it wrong to observe them?
 

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can you show me, the actual 4 Commandments that can technically be considered part of the LAW?

the First 4 are definitely Commands to not commit offense to God and His Creation.

So, since 6 of the Commandments, have NOTHING to do with the Law, why is it wrong to observe them?
You can do a dance in front of your local supermarket if you want. The question is not of observation of law but the spiritual benefit of doing so. If you are walking in the Spirit, you are walking in love, joy, peace, self control, kindness, gentleness goodness etc. There is no law against the fruit of the Spirit. God is not interested in outward observance of rules. He looks at the heart. If He sees Jesus shining out of us, He is pleased. If not, He is displeased.

Jesus rebuked the most righteous law observers and accepted the humble and broken sinners. He ministered to the Samaritans who were no longer covenant people. The parable of the prodigal son is a rebuke for the self righteous pharisee as well as portraying the Father's love for sinners. The Law leads us to Christ. It is now obsolete. It is the shadow, Jesus is the reality. I don't care about the Law because its done its job and now I am in Christ.
 

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can you show me, the actual 4 Commandments, that can technically be considered part of the LAW?

the First 4 are definitely Commands to not commit offense to God and His Creation.

So, since 6 of the Commandments, have NOTHING to do with the Law, why is it wrong to observe them?
Why don't you think they are part of the law?
 
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You can do a dance in front of your local supermarket if you want. The question is not of observation of law but the spiritual benefit of doing so. If you are walking in the Spirit, you are walking in love, joy, peace, self control, kindness, gentleness goodness etc. There is no law against the fruit of the Spirit. God is not interested in outward observance of rules. He looks at the heart. If He sees Jesus shining out of us, He is pleased. If not, He is displeased.

Jesus rebuked the most righteous law observers and accepted the humble and broken sinners. He ministered to the Samaritans who were no longer covenant people. The parable of the prodigal son is a rebuke for the self righteous pharisee as well as portraying the Father's love for sinners. The Law leads us to Christ. It is now obsolete. It is the shadow, Jesus is the reality. I don't care about the Law because its done its job and now I am in Christ.
no, your doctrine is showing, not your knowledge of God's Word.

those are not the LAW.

let me ask...you push this Grace Crap.

how much Grace is there for when you commit idolatry by having other things before God?

ever say to God, I know this is Your first Commandment, and it is Not Part of the Law, but i have Grace, because i follow a fake man made Doctrine?
 
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being Saved by Grace, means, Jesus Died for our sins and we believe that.

it's not a condition.

if we had a condition called Grace, we would never go through a Valley.
 

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because the Law has nothing to do with them. only 4 of them are actually specifically mentioned in the Law.
I've seen some ridiculous assertions on this site, but yours is the winner for today.

It is impossible for any of the ten commandments to be absent from the Law, because the ten commandments are part of the Law. All of them are "specifically mentioned".
 
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I've seen some ridiculous assertions on this site, but yours is the winner for today.

It is impossible for any of the ten commandments to be absent from the Law, because the ten commandments are part of the Law. All of them are "specifically mentioned".
i am Jewish, we know what is Law and what is not, unlike YOU!
 

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no, your doctrine is showing, not your knowledge of God's Word.

those are not the LAW.

let me ask...you push this Grace Crap.

how much Grace is there for when you commit idolatry by having other things before God?

ever say to God, I know this is Your first Commandment, and it is Not Part of the Law, but i have Grace, because i follow a fake man made Doctrine?
You should try reading the Bible. Everything I've said is in God's word. If you have a problem, I suggest that you take it up with God. "Grace crap"? That's how we are saved. If you think that is "crap", then I have to wonder about your salvation.
 
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from the Yiddish Website:

Are the Ten Commandments part of the law?


The first four prove that the Commandments are religious rules, not civil law. So as a starting point, only the latter six could possibly be nominees as possible sources of our governing laws. Moreover, two of the remaining six can be immediately ruled out.
 
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What is the difference between the commandments and the Mosaic law?


First, The Ten Commandments are found in one specific book of the Bible, when God gave them to Moses. They are physically passed down to the people. The other Mosaic Laws are spread throughout the first five books of the Bible through traditions and stories.
 

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being Saved by Grace, means, Jesus Died for our sins and we believe that.

it's not a condition.

if we had a condition called Grace, we would never go through a Valley.
I have no idea what you are talking about. By the way, there is far more to the Christian life than being forgiven. Jesus preached the gospel of the Kingdom of God and commanded His disciples to do the same. You won't experience kingdom life by simply observing the 10 commandments. The pharisees did that, at least outwardly. They were far from God's kingdom.
 

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from the Yiddish Website:

Are the Ten Commandments part of the law?


The first four prove that the Commandments are religious rules, not civil law. So as a starting point, only the latter six could possibly be nominees as possible sources of our governing laws. Moreover, two of the remaining six can be immediately ruled out.
Don't the first 4 show our responsibility before God and the remaining 6 govern our relationships with men? In sum they fulfill the 2 great commands to love God and love others?
 
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What is the difference between the commandments and the Mosaic law?


First, The Ten Commandments are found in one specific book of the Bible, when God gave them to Moses. They are physically passed down to the people. The other Mosaic Laws are spread throughout the first five books of the Bible through traditions and stories.



they are Separate from one another.

the fact none of you know this, is ALARMING
 

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from the Yiddish Website:

Are the Ten Commandments part of the law?


The first four prove that the Commandments are religious rules, not civil law. So as a starting point, only the latter six could possibly be nominees as possible sources of our governing laws. Moreover, two of the remaining six can be immediately ruled out.
Are you yiddish? That explains a lot if you are. If you are not, why are you getting your information from unbelievers?
 
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Are you yiddish? That explains a lot if you are. If you are not, why are you getting your information from unbelievers?
i am a Messianic Jew!

i know the Torah/Tanakh/New Testament like back of my hand. had it memorized by age 13.
 
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i like that, calling Jews unbelievers.
But, are you watching this WAR between them and HAMAS.
because, God, is surely on their side kicking HAMAS butt.

2 Baptist Churches in Gaza Strip have been destroyed.
ironically, they help the Muslims because they think the JEWS have been Replaced by them.

and now they have no more place to Worship hahahahahahahahaha
 

Dino246

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i am Jewish, we know what is Law and what is not, unlike YOU!
I wonder what your Messiah thinks of your self-importance and derision. Actually, I don't need to wonder; He already said it to the Pharisees.