What if God had written IN STONE?

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posthuman

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1And Moses called all Israel and said to them, "Hear, O Israel, the statutes and ordinances which I speak in your ears this day, and learn them, and observe [them] to do them.
a STATUTE, is a LAW, the Ordinance, is the specifics to that Law.

how is that the 10 Commandments?
it's all part of the LAW of the marriage covenant with Israel that we died to and are definitely not beholden to; see Romans 7
 

Mem

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then breaking the tablets is His forbearance, saving us from the curse of them. it is Him breaking His body for us, so we can be healed
2 Samuel 22 refers back to one of my many favorite passages within the Psalms.
29For You, O LORD, are my lamp;
the LORD lights up my darkness.
30For in You I can charge an army;
with my God I can scale a wall.
31As for God, His way is perfect;
the word of the LORD is flawless.
He is a shield to all
who take refuge in Him.

and verse 32 says,

For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?…

so, do I go too far to consider the Tablets to also be a type or shadow of Him? "I will hide you in the crevice of the rock."
 
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witness #3

Deuteronomy 4:13-14​
So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone. And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that you might observe them in the land which you cross over to possess.​
exodus 20 on the mountain God verbally speaks Commandments
exodus 21 on the mountain God then gives the Ordinances.


Deut 4:
13 And He declared unto you His covenant, which He commanded you to perform, even the ten words; and He wrote them upon two tables of stone.

1. God declared His Covenant and Commanded to be performed
2. He even gave the Commandments at that time

so Verse 13, Moses, tells the People remember God delivered His Covenant and the 10 Commandments [Exodus 20/21]

Verse 14, MOSES, is charged to TEACH the meanings.


i love this Passage.
 

posthuman

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2 Samuel 22 refers back to one of my many favorite passages within the Psalms.
29For You, O LORD, are my lamp;
the LORD lights up my darkness.
30For in You I can charge an army;
with my God I can scale a wall.
31As for God, His way is perfect;
the word of the LORD is flawless.
He is a shield to all
who take refuge in Him.

and verse 32 says,

For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?…

so, do I go too far to consider the Tablets to also be a type or shadow of Him? "I will hide you in the crevice of the rock."
No I think that's right, and it's amazingly deep because Moses smashing the tablets is a type of Christ breaking Christ, breaking His body for us - and likewise the ark is a type of Christ, with Christ hidden in Christ, too - just as it is wood ((His humanity)) covered with gold ((His deity))
 

posthuman

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exodus 20 on the mountain God verbally speaks Commandments
exodus 21 on the mountain God then gives the Ordinances.


Deut 4:
13 And He declared unto you His covenant, which He commanded you to perform, even the ten words; and He wrote them upon two tables of stone.

1. God declared His Covenant and Commanded to be performed
2. He eve gave the Commandments

so Verse 13, Moses, tells the People remember God delivered His Covenant and the 10 Commandments

Verse 14, MOSES is charged to TEACH the meanings.


i love this Passage.
But Deuteronomy 29:9 says "all thw words of this covenant" - - including all those statutes, ordinances and judgments etc.

just as James cites Leviticus 19 saying breaking any part of the Law is breaking all the Law.

when Jesus says whoever breaks the least commandment...
Do you seriously think He's only talking about 40% of the decalogue? same God said all the law is based on an obscure mere "statute" in Deuteronomy 6, calling it the greatest "commandment"
 
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But Deuteronomy 29:9 says "all thw words of this covenant" - - including all those statutes, ordinances and judgments etc.

just as James cites Leviticus 19 saying breaking any part of the Law is breaking all the Law.

when Jesus says whoever breaks the least commandment...
Do you seriously think He's only talking about 40% of the decalogue? same God said all the law is based on an obscure mere "statute" in Deuteronomy 6, calling it the greatest "commandment"
covenant is only the LAW
 

posthuman

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But Deuteronomy 29:9 says "all thw words of this covenant" - - including all those statutes, ordinances and judgments etc.

just as James cites Leviticus 19 saying breaking any part of the Law is breaking all the Law.

when Jesus says whoever breaks the least commandment...
Do you seriously think He's only talking about 40% of the decalogue? same God said all the law is based on an obscure mere "statute" in Deuteronomy 6, calling it the greatest "commandment"
this whole part is devolving into arguments over words.

i would rather talk about typology with @Mem
 
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

are you Baptist?

now, i know what's happening.







Baptists believe The Ten Commandments are a summary of the requirements of a works covenant (called the "Old Covenant"), given on Mount Sinai to the nascent nation of Israel.
 

posthuman

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covenant is only the LAW
The scripture to me makes it clear the Covenant is all of the Law, everything Moses wrote - - and he also wrote Deuteronomy 5, which repeats the decalogue.

i don't know why this is an argument anymore lol

what were we talking about??
 

posthuman

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

are you Baptist.

now, i know what's happening.







Baptists believe The Ten Commandments are a summary of the requirements of a works covenant (called the "Old Covenant"), given on Mount Sinai to the nascent nation of Israel.
no not really.

tho i agree physical H2O baptism is symbolic of a spiritual reality, not the substance.

maybe we should mention women's clothing just to make sure we hit all the hot buttons at once hahaha
 
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ok, that is someone's Doctrine.

notice, it does not mention Pentecostal, methodist, etc etc....

i understand now.
 

Mem

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What if God had written us on the palms of His hands?
 
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i feel like i learned something tonight.

that is awesome

was wondering why i was getting attacked over this.

my bad for not understanding this is a Baptist Church Doctrine.
 

posthuman

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makes sense now...almost like Replacement Theology
If you mean, all of the old covenant is non-aplicable to me, being "replaced" by the new covenant, and that i consider the decalogue to be included in that, then yeah.

and i say too, righteousness never changes, that's why all the principles of the Law, we uphold - even while not being under it.
 

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the Hebrew People did not make a Covenant with the tablets of Stone [10 Commandments]
they made a Covenant with the LAW
No, they made a covenant with the LORD.

Perhaps though your comment reveals the root of your error. ;)
 
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If you mean, all of the old covenant is non-aplicable to me, being "replaced" by the new coo, and that i consider th decalogue to be included in that, then yeah.
no, i am just putting this info i just learned into a mental category to remember.

Baptist, have so many doctrines.
i never knew this was one of them.