What if God had written IN STONE?

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it's simply fact that the Sinai covenant was not made with the entire world, but only with His chosen people.

i am sorry this eludes you.


Matthew 15:24​
But He answered and said,
"I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Uh huh. That's correct.

And the house of Israel is made up of only those who fully embrace Jesus Christ.

Gal. 3:16, 26, 29

(Hint: NOT Jews!!)
 

posthuman

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Uh huh. That's correct.

And the house of Israel is made up of only those who fully embrace Jesus Christ.

Gal. 3:16, 26, 29

(Hint: NOT Jews!!)
Abraham is not an Israelite.

you're trying to justify all the world being under the law of Moses by referring to the wrong covenant - see Romans 3:13-15
 

posthuman

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Gal. 3:16, 26, 29
Abraham didn't have the law.
the promise is by faith, not by the ten commandments.

Galatians 3:17-18​
And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
 

Niki7

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@posthuman @Dino246 @Niki7

Why are you so threatened by people obeying the 10 Commandments?

What is the issue?

Jesus taught them, obeyed them and expected all Christians to obey them just as 1 Jn. 2:6 makes obvious.

What is the calamity that would take place for you if all Christians began following the 10 Commandments?

What harm would come to anybody or any society anywhere if people returned to that level of reverence for God?
non sequitur

as are most of your responses when faced with an actual question that blows a hole in your fascination with the law
 

Niki7

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oh

I've missed the chilling end to the episodic postings

nonetheless

cheers
 

PennEd

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I actually thought Braweh was a troll. Now he’s banned.

First his name seems like a perversion of Yahweh.

And these guys always block their profiles. Not to mention the heresy he was spewing.
 

john832

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Don't you believe that Jesus fulfilled the law, every jot and tittle?
He filled it full, not destroy it.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

and then gives examples...

Mat 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Doesn't sound like He did away with it, He actually added to it.

1Jn 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 

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He filled it full, not destroy it.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

and then gives examples...

Mat 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Doesn't sound like He did away with it, He actually added to it.

1Jn 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Jesus did not add to it. Jesus supersedes the law, having fulfilled the Law, all authority, even that over the Law, is given to Him. And, similar @JohnDB's explanation of the peculiarity of a woman's enhanced discernment toward taste which is found elsewhere in these forums, His declarations demonstrate His righteous discernment. He is able to detect even the slightest hint of murder, adultery, et. al.
 

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He filled it full, not destroy it.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

and then gives examples...

Mat 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.'
Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Doesn't sound like He did away with it, He actually added to it.

1Jn 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Interesting insight into the law that Jesus gave us.

I can obey the letter of the law perfectly and I have.

I have never committed adultery according to the letter of the law.

Though I have failed innumerable times to obey the spirit of the law regarding adultery.

Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.'
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

So which interpretation of the law do we attempt to obey?

The literal commandments or the deeper level of the deeds of the flesh.

Jesus threw a spanner into the works of the law.
 

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First of all, God (Jesus Christ) did write the Ten Commandments in stone...
The original covenant in Exodus 24 involved the spoken word of God.

The commandments were not written on stone in the first covenant below.

Exodus 24:8
So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said,
“Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

These ten commandments are not mentioned anywhere in Genesis.
 

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The 10 Commandments are all that is required as far as obeying the Commandments. The 10 cover all scenarios that aren't expired - like the sacrificial ordinances, etc.

Yes, Jesus is called the Rock of Ages in reference to the decalogue written in Stone by God.

He is forever just as they are.
2 Corinthians 3:3
Who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Does the law condemn, does the law kill?

The prophets and the entire law was fulfilled by Jesus and the law is redundant.

All I need is one letter of the law to pass, to expire.
 

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First of all, God (Jesus Christ) did write the Ten Commandments in stone...

Exo_31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Deu_9:10 Then the LORD delivered to me two tablets of stone written with the finger of God, and on them were all the words which the LORD had spoken to you on the mountain from the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.

Christ plainly says that keeping the Commandments for salvation...

Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Negative, the law was first SPOKEN to Israel (Exodus 24), and the law was written by Moses.

No one is going to heaven because they obeyed the literal ten commandments.

The literal ten commandments were corrected by Jesus, read Matthew 5.

Matthew 5:27-28
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

The literal reading of 'You shall not commit adultery' does not define the true meaning of adultery.

Jesus said that Himself.