What if God had written IN STONE?

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posthuman

posthuman

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Braweh said:
That's really desperate, there, post.

Finish the verse, why don't you.

"So that the generation to come of your children that shall rise up after you, and the stranger that shall come from a far land, shall say, when they see the plagues of that land, and the sicknesses which the Lord hath laid upon it; ..."
Deut. 29:22

Nothing at all about the Commandments being given only to the Jews.
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Deuteronomy 29:19-29 are all together explaining why He said He wasn't making the covenant only with those people who were standing there that day - He was also making it alao with their children for generations to come, so that later when they disobeyed, and the curses for disobedience to that covenant ((the whole covenant)) came upon their children, and strangers asked why did God do this, that they would know it is because they, their children, the nation Israel, did not keep the covenant God made with them.

Deuteronomy 29:29​
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.​
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this chapter is clearly not a covenant with the entire world, and it is clearly not just the decalogue.
 
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posthuman said:
Deuteronomy 29:19-29 are all together explaining why He said He wasn't making the covenant only with those people who were standing there that day - He was also making it alao with their children for generations to come, so that later when they disobeyed, and the curses for disobedience to that covenant ((the whole covenant)) came upon their children, and strangers asked why did God do this, that they would know it is because they, their children, the nation Israel, did not keep the covenant God made with them.

Deuteronomy 29:29​
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.​
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this chapter is clearly not a covenant with the entire world, and it is clearly not just the decalogue.
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You're so silly, post.

Your deluded version of Scripture is thus:

Jesus walks the streets berating and publicly humiliating every single Jew that encounters Him and challenges Him and Jesus only teaches the 10 Commandments to that people group because God ONLY gave it to them and Jesus was gonna die soon and the Commandments were gonna be completely done away with then so He completely wastes every moment of His three year ministry to attack Jews, teach ONLY THEM God's Law and then pass away and all His work be swept under the rug for the remainder of history.

You live in a fairy tale, post.
 
The_Watchers_2017

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Cameron143 said:
I'm the last person who ever considers works in any aspect of salvation. I don't believe we do anything in salvation but believe and respond to the work of God and the operation of the Holy Spirit. But I am intrigued what I wrote that makes you believe I am referring to a works doctrine. I have said all along that we cannot keep the commandments as a result of our own endeavor and commandments are only kept as we walk in the Spirit. It's not our love that fulfills the commandments, but the love of God shed abroad in our hearts...

Not of works that
I have done,
All by the work
Of the Son.
No might have I
Nor strength left.
I dwell within
A sheltered cleft.
I live, not I,
But Christ in me.
An emblem of
His majesty.
Frail and meager
Though I be,
I am His,
And He in me.
Full of joy
And richly blessed,
In His righteousness
Forever dressed.
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No, I meant you are describing those who observe the 10 Commandments in the form of a Works Doctrine.
You ask which one are you fulfilling.

If I genuinely Love God and Love You, my Neighbor, then I am fulfilling them according to Paul.

And I do believe, many follow the Commandments without genuine love. They do make it into a Works Doctrine.
 
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Braweh said:
False.

Jesus was 100% without sin and the Sabbath Commandment was never done away with anymore than any of the other 9 Commandments.

Those who hate the Sabbath Commandment hate God and all of His law.
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I would wager that you have a 40-hr, or 5 day work week. Half of the Commandment is the directive to work six days. Maybe you should focus on toiling morning to evening Sunday through Friday, and then talk to us about resting on Saturday...or are you a hypocrite?

But there's breaking a commandment, and then there's understanding it's fulfillment. If you aren't willing to look into exegete the passage I gave you, then you aren't worth my time to engage.
 
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Dino246 said:
If this were true, then the man collecting sticks on the Sabbath would not have been executed (Numbers 15:32-36). Gathering firewood has nothing to do with "works of righteousness".
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And muzzling an ox has nothing to do with the ministry.
 
posthuman

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Braweh said:
You're so silly, post.

Your deluded version of Scripture is thus:

Jesus walks the streets berating and publicly humiliating every single Jew that encounters Him and challenges Him and Jesus only teaches the 10 Commandments to that people group because God ONLY gave it to them and Jesus was gonna die soon and the Commandments were gonna be completely done away with then so He completely wastes every moment of His three year ministry to attack Jews, teach ONLY THEM God's Law and then pass away and all His work be swept under the rug for the remainder of history.

You live in a fairy tale, post.
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it's simply fact that the Sinai covenant was not made with the entire world, but only with His chosen people.

i am sorry this eludes you.


Matthew 15:24​
But He answered and said, ​
"I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."​
 
Cameron143

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The_Watchers_2017 said:
No, I meant you are describing those who observe the 10 Commandments in the form of a Works Doctrine.
You ask which one are you fulfilling.

If I genuinely Love God and Love You, my Neighbor, then I am fulfilling them according to Paul.

And I do believe, many follow the Commandments without genuine love. They do make it into a Works Doctrine.
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I see. What I was trying to show is that few people even know all that any singular commandment requires of them, let alone be able to perform all outwardly that is required, all inwardly that is required, and to perform these requirements of the commandment both continually and to the utmost.
I repudiate categorically any work as a means of attaining salvation or righteousness. And I would say that apart from the indwelling presence of Christ we can do nothing to please God.
And love is the more excellent way.
 
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