What is Easter?

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p_rehbein

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It is the Book in the Bible that comes just after Nehemiah and just before Job.......uh, er, no, wait......you said Easter, never mind........
 
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#82
This debate would have been highly relevant in the time when the conscious worship of Isthar, Tammuzz and the whole pantheon of Gods and Goddesses were competing against Christianity but in 2016 few people actually know about these
Pagan deities let alone worship them so the whole argument is futile and a waste of time.
The debate is not about whether Easter is pagan or not, it's about what the celebration of Christian Easter is.
 

JaumeJ

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If this is the case, the answer is quite simple. Holy week is the commemoration of the events of the last week of our Savior's mission on this, His earth, for us, to save the world from sin. There is nothing called "Easter" in any version of the Word.

Passover, however, is another story. Perhaps if folks would recognize we are of the faith of Abraham, they may take hold of this as what Christ's sacrifice represents throughout the Word. Otherwise, they will probably continue in Easter.

The debate is not about whether Easter is pagan or not, it's about what the celebration of Christian Easter is.
 

p_rehbein

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The debate is not about whether Easter is pagan or not, it's about what the celebration of Christian Easter is.


Easter xxxxx Resurrection Sunday........that's what we celebrate

just saying
 
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The debate is not about whether Easter is pagan or not, it'd about what the celebration of Christian Easter is.


Easter xxxxx Resurrection Sunday........that's what we celebrate

just saying
Right, I mean to me it seems a though Easter is the fulfillment of the passover. Jesus the real passover lamb was sacrificed then rose again and death passes over us. we have eternal life.
 

prove-all

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So your saying that for the best part of two thousand years Gentile Christians have had it wrong,
and the Holy Spirit has waited until you and your credible research has come along to put us all straight
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these men quoted below did credible research, about the lost century in church history.


as Edward Gibbon wrote in
The History of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire
"The scanty materials of ecclesiastical history seldom enable us to dispel
the cloud that hangs over the first age of the church .

Jesse Lyman Hurlbert in
The story of the christian church
the age just after the book of acts he calls "..the age of shadows.."

"of all the periods in the churches history, it is the one about which we know
the least about. For fifty years after St. Paul's life a curtain hangs over the church,
through which we strive vainly to look;


William McLaughlin in
The Course of Christian History

"But Christianity itself had been in the process of transformation as it progressed
and at the close of the period was in many respects quite different from the apostolic
Christianity."


Samuel G. Green in
A handbook of church History

"The thirty years which followed the close of the New Testement canon and the
destruction of Jerusalem, are in truth the most obscure in the history of the church.
When we emerge in the second century, we are to a great extent in a changed world."


William fitzgerald in
lectures on ecclesiastical History

"over this period of transition, which immediatly succeeds upon
the era properly called apostolic, great obscurity hangs."


Philip Schaff in
History of the Christian Church

"The remaining thirty years of the first century are involved in mysterious darkness,
illuminated only by the writings of John. This is a period of church history about which
we know least and would like to know most."

"Simon Magus unquestionably adulterated Christianity with pagon ideas and practices
and gave himself out for an emanation of God."

"This heresy in the second century spread over the whole church, east and west,
in the various schools of agnosticism."



--Satan was doing everything he could to destroy the Work of God, and in
little more than two decades, God’s people were turning to another gospel.


-this was the time of the Roman Empire , and in around 117 AD, at its greatest extent.
streched from Britian clear to modern day Turkey, and it ruled with the rod of iron.


-did not the new testement warn about false teaching into the church?


I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years
I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.


-some understanding not understood till the time of the end


8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord,
what shall be the end of these things?

9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are
(closed up) and (sealed) till the time of (the end).

4But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:
many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.



Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God,
and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days.
 
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If this is the case, the answer is quite simple. Holy week is the commemoration of the events of the last week of our Savior's mission on this, His earth, for us, to save the world from sin. There is nothing called "Easter" in any version of the Word.

Passover, however, is another story. Perhaps if folks would recognize we are of the faith of Abraham, they may take hold of this as what Christ's sacrifice represents throughout the Word. Otherwise, they will probably continue in Easter.
No the word Easter is used in the inerrant KJV bible. God inspired the translators to call it Easter because of all the times pascha is used in the bible Acts 12:4 is the one and only time it's used after Passover had been fulfilled by Christ. That's totally amazing... talk about translation accuracy!
 

JaumeJ

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The understanding in your post is lacking. At least etymologically speaking. Easter is the evolution of the name of the goddess of fertility (ergo the eggs). Our Father is the last to use the name of a false god (godess) to replace His Passover.


No the word Easter is used in the inerrant KJV bible. God inspired the translators to call it Easter because of all the times pascha is used in the bible Acts 12:4 is the one and only time it's used after Passover had been fulfilled by Christ. That's totally amazing... talk about translation accuracy!
 
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I well remember many things associated with 'easter' as a child and then into adulthood...

the easter cat-walk so all new duds could be looked at
sunrise service, for many, one of the two times a year to show-up, the other for christmas service
colored-eggs
baskets
the hunt
the parade
the bonnet
chocolate
new shoes
dinner...

I honestly don't remember much talk about Jesus at these times....
at church or at home when young or as an adult.....
 
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The understanding in your post is lacking. At least etymologically speaking. Easter is the evolution of the name of the goddess of fertility (ergo the eggs). Our Father is the last to use the name of a false god (godess) to replace His Passover.
What do you think Is-Ra-El is etymologocally? Are you against that word also?
 

JaumeJ

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Israel from the Biblical Hebrew may be translated as Prince (or ruler) With God.

I well remember many things associated with 'easter' as a child and then into adulthood...

the easter cat-walk so all new duds could be looked at
sunrise service, for many, one of the two times a year to show-up, the other for christmas service
colored-eggs
baskets
the hunt
the parade
the bonnet
chocolate
new shoes
dinner...

I honestly don't remember much talk about Jesus at these times....
at church or at home when young or as an adult.....
 

JaumeJ

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See the above reply accidentally posted to Oldand new.........sorry about that O/N::::::God bless you both..

What do you think Is-Ra-El is etymologocally? Are you against that word also?
 
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The understanding in your post is lacking. At least etymologically speaking. Easter is the evolution of the name of the goddess of fertility (ergo the eggs). Our Father is the last to use the name of a false god (godess) to replace His Passover.
Obviously someone, either the KJV translators or God chose to mark the one and only time pascha was mentioned after it's fulfillment... what word would you have preferred that God used?
 

JaumeJ

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Sorry, it can only translate as it translates.......... I will restudy, but the understanding I have since reading the Torah in Hebrew and study of the etymologies from Hebrew of varied groups of words to compose a ne in Hebrew does not come near what you have stated here below.

But it also means Isis - Ra - God to some people.
 

JaumeJ

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KJV, as you must know, Jacob was renamed Israel after he had contended with God, or wrestled with His Angel, and he did not lose to Him. The definition given for Israel is Contends with Elohanu or Contends with God.

I have also been given to understand that Israel may be translated as rules with Elohanu, God....... It may also be translated as Prince with Elohanu, or with God.........
 

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The debate is not about whether Easter is pagan or not, it's about what the celebration of Christian Easter is.
"All of heaven is interested in the Cross of Christ, hell afraid of it, while men are the only ones to ignore its meaning. Easter is the celebration of truly seeing God; truly knowing for ourselves what heaven and hell have already arrived at; that Jesus Christ is our only hope to life and He is that Himself. The Cross is proof of both the immense love of God and the profound wickedness of sin."
 
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in the Bible it never says to celebrate the 'resurrection' as any kind of an Holy Day...
but it does say, 'that every time we partake of the cup, we do show the Lord's death'....
in 1COR.11:26. --He has told us what to do in remembrance of Him, these are His very own
instructions written down for us to honor Him...
as for my wife and myself, we shall not take it upon ourselves to 'add' and or take away any celebration of God.....
we may celebrate many of the aspects of God and Christ, but we will never proclaim them
to be scripturally commanded, if they are not......

as it is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.'

scripturally speaking, we are celebrating the 'reconciliation to God, and not His resurrection'.
we certainly rejoice in His Resurrection, else our faith would be in vain = this is the corner-stone
of Christianity....for without it our walk would be pointless....
 

KohenMatt

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Our family doesn't haven't anything to do with easter. I'll probably be working in my field all Sunday.
But I'll be joyfully celebrating Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread next month!