WHAT IS SIN AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF SIN???????????
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Not that I can see (there's so many by now and I do keep records, but...). I do Have Romans 8:2 
John 8:36 plus Romans 8:2 If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.
Oh, I found this on an older document
John 8:36 plus Romans 8:2 If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.
Oh, I found this on an older document
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Not that I can see (there's so many by now and I do keep records, but...). I do Have Romans 8:2
John 8:36 plus Romans 8:2 If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.
John 8:36 plus Romans 8:2 If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death.
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Have you ever told a lie ----and if you say no then I know that your are in fact telling a lie ----and so if you break one law you break them all according to God -----so you haven't keeps all the commandments and therefore have disobeyed all God's laws ------and are in sin ----and away from God ------go figure ----you may think that your all that --but God has away of bringing people to their knees -------
The rich young ruler said to Jesus he kept all the laws and Jesus said ---then go sell all your possessions and then you can follow me ----go figure -----
The rich young ruler said to Jesus he kept all the laws and Jesus said ---then go sell all your possessions and then you can follow me ----go figure -----
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:19-20
when you learn the law of Moses your learning what sin is it’s consequence is death in other words to serve sin is a death sentance
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:16, 20-21, 23 KJV
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
1 John 3:4
Sin is to transgress what the law of Moses said and it’s consequence is death penalty some details matter like the is one
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
James 4:17
if I know it’s wrong to lie which the law of Moses declares and I lie Ive sinned if I’ve done something wrong but didn’t know or don’t know it’s wrong I havent sinned I’m just ignorant of sin. So another aspect of what constitutes sin is I have to be aware of what I’m doing being wrong and doing it anyways or knowing The right thing to do and refusing to do it if I knowingly violate my faith my understanding of the gospel I’ve sinned and need to repent
I like your post there being a Christian doesn’t mean now we get to break the commandments it means we know can see and hear God clearly rather than peering through a veil not actually hearing his word like the law so for instance the commandments are here in the New Testament
“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”
Romans 13:8-10 KJV
Saying I love everyone won’t help but treating people with love is the thing that fulfills the law if I steal I’m stealing from a man I’m doing evil to my fellow
Man this isnt love I need to repent
if I kill or do violence against another I’m not loving them . If I cheat on my wife I’m not loving her , if I covet my neighbors life and possessions I’m not loving them ect the law was always about what not to do don’t lie , don’t cheat , don’t steal from each other don’t hurt each other or kill each other ect
but notice paul doesnt say if you keep the commandments now you have fulfilled love
because the law telling me not to kill another doesn’t mean I love them if I don’t kill them love is more than tHat love is what helps others it acts to benefit others it’s like the Good Samaritan it helps when it is able and another has need
the gospel is about what God really told man to do and be and the le is about what God told sinners not to continue doing or they would die
knowing sin can’t save us but knowing righteousness does Old Testament and new
“The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
“Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:20-22 KJV
believing the gospel will save us the New Testament but not this
“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:13-15 KJV
The Old Testament is in the at position and perspective but this is the gospel when the veil is removed
“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
2 Corinthians 3:18 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:19-20
when you learn the law of Moses your learning what sin is it’s consequence is death in other words to serve sin is a death sentance
“Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:16, 20-21, 23 KJV
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
1 John 3:4
Sin is to transgress what the law of Moses said and it’s consequence is death penalty some details matter like the is one
“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
James 4:17
if I know it’s wrong to lie which the law of Moses declares and I lie Ive sinned if I’ve done something wrong but didn’t know or don’t know it’s wrong I havent sinned I’m just ignorant of sin. So another aspect of what constitutes sin is I have to be aware of what I’m doing being wrong and doing it anyways or knowing The right thing to do and refusing to do it if I knowingly violate my faith my understanding of the gospel I’ve sinned and need to repent
I like your post there being a Christian doesn’t mean now we get to break the commandments it means we know can see and hear God clearly rather than peering through a veil not actually hearing his word like the law so for instance the commandments are here in the New Testament
“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”
Romans 13:8-10 KJV
Saying I love everyone won’t help but treating people with love is the thing that fulfills the law if I steal I’m stealing from a man I’m doing evil to my fellow
Man this isnt love I need to repent
if I kill or do violence against another I’m not loving them . If I cheat on my wife I’m not loving her , if I covet my neighbors life and possessions I’m not loving them ect the law was always about what not to do don’t lie , don’t cheat , don’t steal from each other don’t hurt each other or kill each other ect
but notice paul doesnt say if you keep the commandments now you have fulfilled love
because the law telling me not to kill another doesn’t mean I love them if I don’t kill them love is more than tHat love is what helps others it acts to benefit others it’s like the Good Samaritan it helps when it is able and another has need
the gospel is about what God really told man to do and be and the le is about what God told sinners not to continue doing or they would die
knowing sin can’t save us but knowing righteousness does Old Testament and new
“The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
“Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:20-22 KJV
believing the gospel will save us the New Testament but not this
“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:13-15 KJV
The Old Testament is in the at position and perspective but this is the gospel when the veil is removed
“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
2 Corinthians 3:18 KJV
The word "never" does not appear there. Jesus does not say that they would "never" be abolished. Read more carefully and don't make claims on non-existent words.
I suggest you read through Hebrews before arguing any further...
Hebrews 8:6 - 7, 13 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
The Sinai covenant is OBSOLETE. No Christian is under that covenant.
I suggest you read through Hebrews before arguing any further...
Hebrews 8:6 - 7, 13 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
The Sinai covenant is OBSOLETE. No Christian is under that covenant.
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The Bible says love is the fulfilling of law.
The 2 greatest commandments are love God and love people.
Paul said we do not void out the law through faith and that the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good, which are the moral laws, laws of love.
The moral laws, laws of love never pass away and are always to be obeyed.
The 10 commandments are moral laws, laws of love which is love towards God and people so the 10 commandments are spiritual laws so they must be obeyed.
Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel out of the way nailing them to His cross for they were contrary to us which means they had no bearing on spiritual salvation but He did not take the 10 commandments out of the way and the moral laws, laws of love.
That is why the Bible points out that people who do not obey the 10 commandments shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
There are consequences of our sins if we hold on to the sin for if we sin wilfully then there is no more sacrifice for sins which means if we hold on to sin then the blood of Christ cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin we hold on to.
Which there is no excuse for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts and show the ways of the Spirit and not the flesh and God will not allow them to be tempted above what they are able and will give them an escape so they can bear it.
So if there is no excuse why we cannot abstain from sin so it will be required of the saints to abstain from sin.
Every time a saint sins they forfeit repentance for they are not turning away from sin until they repent of the sin and not want it anymore.
But a saint can sin if they desire to sin for they have the choice to sin and if they sin and repent and get rid of the sin and mean it they can move forward in the Spirit but if they hold on to the sin it cannot be forgiven.
And repenting after doing the sin and still holding on to it is not repenting for you are not turning away from the sin but only repenting when you do the sin.
The 2 greatest commandments are love God and love people.
Paul said we do not void out the law through faith and that the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good, which are the moral laws, laws of love.
The moral laws, laws of love never pass away and are always to be obeyed.
The 10 commandments are moral laws, laws of love which is love towards God and people so the 10 commandments are spiritual laws so they must be obeyed.
Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel out of the way nailing them to His cross for they were contrary to us which means they had no bearing on spiritual salvation but He did not take the 10 commandments out of the way and the moral laws, laws of love.
That is why the Bible points out that people who do not obey the 10 commandments shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
There are consequences of our sins if we hold on to the sin for if we sin wilfully then there is no more sacrifice for sins which means if we hold on to sin then the blood of Christ cannot wash it away for God will not take away a sin we hold on to.
Which there is no excuse for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts and show the ways of the Spirit and not the flesh and God will not allow them to be tempted above what they are able and will give them an escape so they can bear it.
So if there is no excuse why we cannot abstain from sin so it will be required of the saints to abstain from sin.
Every time a saint sins they forfeit repentance for they are not turning away from sin until they repent of the sin and not want it anymore.
But a saint can sin if they desire to sin for they have the choice to sin and if they sin and repent and get rid of the sin and mean it they can move forward in the Spirit but if they hold on to the sin it cannot be forgiven.
And repenting after doing the sin and still holding on to it is not repenting for you are not turning away from the sin but only repenting when you do the sin.
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some of what you posted of it is truth, some your own faulty interpretation based on false doctrine. I am always willing to debate so you know. I will nor reply to trick or vague questions I have seen too many of these on different threads here already they only cause confusion.
Know also that the only doctrine I follow if I can call it so, is the gospel of Jesus Christ son of GOD and nothing else. I do not listen to the words of men as doctrine.
Know also that the only doctrine I follow if I can call it so, is the gospel of Jesus Christ son of GOD and nothing else. I do not listen to the words of men as doctrine.