What is the COVENANT of Daniel 9:27?

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eternally-gratefull

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John the baptist was prophecies to make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

He taught (introduced) the people that it was him that was to come. The lamb of God.

John 1:29-30 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

John the Baptist testimony

John 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

God bless
So he introduced him as the one to take the sins of the people. The suffering servant was said to do this. The people up until the time of Jesus death did not even believe what John said here.

The messiah was said to be introduced by riding into jerusalem on a donkey to take his kingdom (messiah the prince)
 

zone

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Leave it to someone to skip parts of the passage.

Thats all one needs to know that honesty is not in play here

If your not going to post it all. Then why post at all.
sigh. i've posted the whole chapter a million times.
practically the whole book over the years EG.
the passages in question have been posted repeatedly.

honesty?
okay....

The "he" is not messiah, It is the prince who is to come. Why even mention a prince who is to come if the prince never appears?
uh....huh?
both the Messiah and the prince (who was to come) of the people (the romans) came. the prince to come was TITUS.

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— to come
: existing or arriving in the future <in the days to come> <there will be more trouble to come>


1come verb \ˈkəm\
came comecom·ing
Come - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

HEY DANIEL:

i Gabriel have been sent to tell you something about what will happen in YOUR future.

......— to come
: existing or arriving in the future <in the days to come> <there will be more trouble to come>


the Messiah will come in exactly the number of years God decreed.
and a prince who is to come (existing or arriving in the future <in the days to come>) will come with people (romans it turns out...the same IRON beast you DANIEL saw trampling everything).

You still did not answer the time line,

Jesus started his ministry at his baptism, Not his messianic kingdom. which is what Gabriel was reffering.
EG - was Jesus Israel's Messiah?
did He come?
did He do what Messiah was prophesied to do? - save His people from their sins?

Matthew 1:21
21"She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."

HOW did He do that?

by fulfilling the Law perfectly on their behalf? i hear you preach this constantly...yet somehow it wasn't for ISRAEL:confused:

AND HIS WORK ON THE CROSS? - for Israel?

ya? or no.


lol.. It is NOT fulfilled complete. It starts with the 1 week covenant. And ends with the return of Christ.
Daniel is told there is a gap between the end of the 69th week.
he was? Daniel was told there was a gap?

There is no fulfiment at all in your interpretation. if jesus died 3 1/2 years later, what happened 3 1/2 years after his death to restore the city and finbish the trransgression of Isreal? NOTHING..
?? there was no restoration until Cyrus said they should go home.
they went back in stages and rebuilt...the wall and the city.
Herod eventually built the temple.

Jesus arrived.

Finished His Work and sent the Spirit.

???

then what?

Titus arrived....and that which was decreed against Jerusalem (the apostate) was carried out by Titus and the romans.
Temple and city GONE.

And which of these prophesies does it say they will know him by his baptism?? Yet again, You leave parts out of what I said. This wreaks of deception here sis. How are you going to convince me or anyone else like me when you play these games?


ok then:)
 
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So he introduced him as the one to take the sins of the people. The suffering servant was said to do this. The people up until the time of Jesus death did not even believe what John said here.

The messiah was said to be introduced by riding into jerusalem on a donkey to take his kingdom (messiah the prince)
John 12

Jesus Enters Jerusalem

12On the next day the large crowd who had come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,13took the branches of the palm trees and went out to meet Him, and began to shout, “Hosanna! BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, even the King of Israel.”14Jesus, finding a young donkey, sat on it; as it is written,15“FEAR NOT, DAUGHTER OF ZION; BEHOLD, YOUR KING IS COMING, SEATED ON A DONKEY’S COLT.”16These things His disciples did not understand at the first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written of Him, and that they had done these things to Him.

Jesus took His kingdom, when He sat at the right hand of the Father in heaven.
I belive this is what your looking for ? Jesus explain his kingdom is not of this world, but you as a beliver in Christ Jesus understand clearly and know were the location of his kingdom lays.

God bless
 
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1. Your three years early.
2. The command to restore was in 445 BC. Through Artaxes, who gave the command to restore the City. (nehemiah 2: 1-8)(everyone else gave a command just to restor the temple. NOT the city.
3. Jesus baptism was not him being introduced to Isreal. It was confirming to John the baptise, who was his witness
4. As already shown Jesus was introduced according to prophesy on a donkey.
5. If Jesus baptism is his introduction. Then you have his cutting off 3 years after he was introduced. What happened 4 years later to fulfill the prophesy? Nothing!

445 BC + 69 weeks of 360 years 173380 days = the month of nisan, or the week Jesus entered jerusalem.

3.
It was through Artaxerxes but was 457 BC not 445 BC. The decree of Artaxerxes in Ezra 7 was in 457 BC. The decree in Nehemiah was later but was only repeating the third decree in 457 BC. If the date 445 is correct then the end of the 69th week would have been in 39 AD which is too late. Jesus was born about 4 BC and died about 31 AD.
 

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It was through Artaxerxes but was 457 BC not 445 BC. The decree of Artaxerxes in Ezra 7 was in 457 BC. The decree in Nehemiah was later but was only repeating the third decree in 457 BC. If the date 445 is correct then the end of the 69th week would have been in 39 AD which is too late. Jesus was born about 4 BC and died about 31 AD.
Lao....do you have a gap in your 70th week theology?

or is it fulfilled?

(i know you're SDA....but i forget what you believe and teach on this)

i don't know what you're saying.

are you looking for a 7 year tribulation and Antichrist?
if so, where's the 7 years from?
or is your 70th week cut in half and 3.5 years is in the future?

:confused:
 
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Lao....do you have a gap in your 70th week theology?

or is it fulfilled?

(i know you're SDA....but i forget what you believe and teach on this)

i don't know what you're saying.

are you looking for a 7 year tribulation and Antichrist?
if so, where's the 7 years from?
or is your 70th week cut in half and 3.5 years is in the future?

:confused:
No gap. It was fulfilled 34 AD. Stephen was stoned and the gospel went to the Gentiles and Paul was converted at that time.
 

zone

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Prophecy of Seventy Weeks - wiki

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The historical-messianic interpretation also interprets the Messiah in Daniel 9 as Jesus Christ, but it understands the 490 years as an uninterrupted, continuous unit that ended 3½ years after His death. The 490 years begin with the decree by Artaxerxes I in 458/7 BCE (Ezra 7). The appearance of “Messiah the Prince” at the end of the 7+62 weeks (483 years) (9:25) is the anointed of Jesus Christ as Messiah at His baptism in 26/7 CE. This inaugurated His public ministry. The "cut off" of the “anointed one” (9:26) refers to His crucifixion 3½ years “after” (9:26) the end of the 483 years. Thus He made “atonement for iniquity” and brought in “everlasting righteousness” (9:24). The covenant (9:27) is the covenant between God and Israel, as extended by the prophecy of Daniel 9. Jesus “confirms” (KJV) this covenant for one week (9:27) firstly by His personal ministry while on earth and secondly by the ministry of the Holy Spirit for another 3½ years after His crucifixion. He caused the cessation of the entire system of sacrifices of Old Testament times by His death "in the midst of" (9:27) the last seven years, therefore in CE 30 or 31. The last week ends 3½ years after the crucifixion when the Jews finally rejected the Holy Spirit by persecuting the people that had the Holy Spirit (Acts 8, 9). At that time the gospel was redirected from the Jews to all peoples (Acts 8 to 11). This includes the vision in which God showed Peter “that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him” (Acts 10:34-35).

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Reformation
In Martin Luther's commentary of Daniel, Preface to the Prophet Daniel, Luther follows the day-year principle to calculate the timespan of the prophecy of seventy weeks as weeks of years. Thus, he explains that seven days in a week multiplied by seventy weeks gives 490 years.

Luther starts the prophecy in the "second year of King Darius also known as 'the long handed'",[31] in a period when Jerusalem was being rebuilt (according to Luther, also mentioned in Haggai 1:1-15; Zechariah 1:1-17). At the end of the first 69 weeks (483 years), is the first coming of Christ. From Darius, Luther calculates 456 years to Christ's birth and another 30 years to Christ's baptism (Luke 3:23), totaling 486 years. Any discrepancies in time, Luther dismisses with, "We cannot find and determine all days and hours so precisely, when we write history it is enough for us that we come pretty close, ...".
According to Luther the 70th week of the prophecy ends in the 4th year after Christ's death.[32] Luther’s is therefore a variation of the historical-messianic interpretation mentioned above.

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Philip Mauro (1921) proposed the discourse on the Mount Olivet (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21) to be an expansion of Daniel’s “seventy weeks” prophecy. His research on the Daniel prophecy was in part, influenced by the works of Martin Anstey (1913). He fully supported the view that the decree of Cyrus, in Ezra 1:1, exhorting the Jews to return to their land, was a real event. Like many others, he agreed that the period designated by the Daniel prophesy was “seventy sevens of years” (490 years). He points to the significance of 69 sevens, interpreted as a period of 483 years, as being the length of time to the Messiah. Thus, in the remaining “seven years” the Messiah would be “cut off and have nothing”.[37] He further relates that, “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;” (9:25) is prophetic of the “desolation” of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 CE (Matthew 24:1-22; Luke 21:20-24)[37]


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no gaps...all good:)
 

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No gap. It was fulfilled 34 AD. Stephen was stoned and the gospel went to the Gentiles and Paul was converted at that time.
k....imma go with Luther on this one...(though Mauro is closest imo).

"Any discrepancies in time, Luther dismisses with, "We cannot find and determine all days and hours so precisely, when we write history it is enough for us that we come pretty close, ..."

no gaps ~ i'm there.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It was through Artaxerxes but was 457 BC not 445 BC. The decree of Artaxerxes in Ezra 7 was in 457 BC. The decree in Nehemiah was later but was only repeating the third decree in 457 BC. If the date 445 is correct then the end of the 69th week would have been in 39 AD which is too late. Jesus was born about 4 BC and died about 31 AD.
No. The decree in 457 was to build the temple only It was a recomfirmation of cyruses edict to rebuild the temple

I proved it with the passages, The decree was in the 20 year of artaxerxes.

If people can't get this right, How can we expect anything else to get right..


Daniel was not told from the command to rebuild the temple. He was told from the command to restor and rebuild the CITY.. HUGE difference.

The month of nisan 445 BC till the passion week (Month of Nisan 32 ad) was 69 weeks of years using the jewish calendar (not the current modern day callender)
 
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John 12

Jesus Enters Jerusalem

12On the next day the large crowd who had come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,13took the branches of the palm trees and went out to meet Him, and began to shout, “Hosanna! BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, even the King of Israel.”14Jesus, finding a young donkey, sat on it; as it is written,15“FEAR NOT, DAUGHTER OF ZION; BEHOLD, YOUR KING IS COMING, SEATED ON A DONKEY’S COLT.”16These things His disciples did not understand at the first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written of Him, and that they had done these things to Him.

Jesus took His kingdom, when He sat at the right hand of the Father in heaven.
I belive this is what your looking for ? Jesus explain his kingdom is not of this world, but you as a beliver in Christ Jesus understand clearly and know were the location of his kingdom lays.

God bless
Thanks..

my comments.

1. I am looking for the introduction of messiah as told by Gabriel after (literally at the completion) of 69 weeks.

The word after means follwoing. after, At the end of. It does not mean 3 1/2 years,, or way into the following week.

2. I am looking for the end of the prophesy, Which will be after the abomination which makes desolate. and the time which is determined where the consumation of things is poured out on the desolate.

Desolate. - to devistate, stupify, horrify. This is speaking of the time of Gods wrath poured out on the desolate at the end time spoken of by Jesus in matt 24.
 

zone

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No..

Cyrus commanded to rebuild Gods house (temple) only

2 Chronicles 36:23 Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: All the kingdoms of the earth the Lord God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah. Who is among you of all His people? May the Lord his God be with him, and let him go up

Again the temple, or house of the Lord only!

Ezra 1:2 Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: All the kingdoms of the earth the Lord God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah.

Again only the house!
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2 Chronicles 36:22
Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom and also put it in writing..

what might be fulfilled (Jeremiah)?:)

Isaiah 45:13
I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness: I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild my city and set my exiles free, but not for a price or reward, says the LORD Almighty."

Isaiah 44:28
who says of Cyrus, 'He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; he will say of Jerusalem, "Let it be rebuilt," and of the temple, "Let its foundations be laid."

so does Isaiah actually say Jerusalem AND the temple?
does it say Cyrus would rebuild the Lord's city?

come on EG...that's what it says.
 

vic1980

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Thanks..

my comments.

1. I am looking for the introduction of messiah as told by Gabriel after (literally at the completion) of 69 weeks.

The word after means follwoing. after, At the end of. It does not mean 3 1/2 years,, or way into the following week.

2. I am looking for the end of the prophesy, Which will be after the abomination which makes desolate. and the time which is determined where the consumation of things is poured out on the desolate.

Desolate. - to devistate, stupify, horrify. This is speaking of the time of Gods wrath poured out on the desolate at the end time spoken of by Jesus in matt 24.
I belive your looking for this ...

Pergamum: The Seat of Satan

Pergamum: The Seat of Satan - Gordon Robertson - The 700 Club | CBN.com



God bless
 

VCO

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Lao....do you have a gap in your 70th week theology?

or is it fulfilled?

(i know you're SDA....but i forget what you believe and teach on this)

i don't know what you're saying.

are you looking for a 7 year tribulation and Antichrist?
if so, where's the 7 years from?
or is your 70th week cut in half and 3.5 years is in the future?

:confused:
The way I understand it the 3.5 years is the first half of Anti-christ's reign, when he comes in peacefully, but then at the exact halfway point, he becomes the most blood thirsty Dictiator that has ever lived. The 70th Week of Daniel is running at the same time as the Great Tribulation.
 

watcher2013

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Prophecy of Seventy Weeks - wiki

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The historical-messianic interpretation also interprets the Messiah in Daniel 9 as Jesus Christ, but it understands the 490 years as an uninterrupted, continuous unit that ended 3½ years after His death. The 490 years begin with the decree by Artaxerxes I in 458/7 BCE (Ezra 7). The appearance of “Messiah the Prince” at the end of the 7+62 weeks (483 years) (9:25) is the anointed of Jesus Christ as Messiah at His baptism in 26/7 CE. This inaugurated His public ministry. The "cut off" of the “anointed one” (9:26) refers to His crucifixion 3½ years “after” (9:26) the end of the 483 years. Thus He made “atonement for iniquity” and brought in “everlasting righteousness” (9:24). The covenant (9:27) is the covenant between God and Israel, as extended by the prophecy of Daniel 9. Jesus “confirms” (KJV) this covenant for one week (9:27) firstly by His personal ministry while on earth and secondly by the ministry of the Holy Spirit for another 3½ years after His crucifixion. He caused the cessation of the entire system of sacrifices of Old Testament times by His death "in the midst of" (9:27) the last seven years, therefore in CE 30 or 31. The last week ends 3½ years after the crucifixion when the Jews finally rejected the Holy Spirit by persecuting the people that had the Holy Spirit (Acts 8, 9). At that time the gospel was redirected from the Jews to all peoples (Acts 8 to 11). This includes the vision in which God showed Peter “that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him” (Acts 10:34-35).

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Reformation
In Martin Luther's commentary of Daniel, Preface to the Prophet Daniel, Luther follows the day-year principle to calculate the timespan of the prophecy of seventy weeks as weeks of years. Thus, he explains that seven days in a week multiplied by seventy weeks gives 490 years.

Luther starts the prophecy in the "second year of King Darius also known as 'the long handed'",[31] in a period when Jerusalem was being rebuilt (according to Luther, also mentioned in Haggai 1:1-15; Zechariah 1:1-17). At the end of the first 69 weeks (483 years), is the first coming of Christ. From Darius, Luther calculates 456 years to Christ's birth and another 30 years to Christ's baptism (Luke 3:23), totaling 486 years. Any discrepancies in time, Luther dismisses with, "We cannot find and determine all days and hours so precisely, when we write history it is enough for us that we come pretty close, ...".
According to Luther the 70th week of the prophecy ends in the 4th year after Christ's death.[32] Luther’s is therefore a variation of the historical-messianic interpretation mentioned above.

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Philip Mauro (1921) proposed the discourse on the Mount Olivet (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21) to be an expansion of Daniel’s “seventy weeks” prophecy. His research on the Daniel prophecy was in part, influenced by the works of Martin Anstey (1913). He fully supported the view that the decree of Cyrus, in Ezra 1:1, exhorting the Jews to return to their land, was a real event. Like many others, he agreed that the period designated by the Daniel prophesy was “seventy sevens of years” (490 years). He points to the significance of 69 sevens, interpreted as a period of 483 years, as being the length of time to the Messiah. Thus, in the remaining “seven years” the Messiah would be “cut off and have nothing”.[37] He further relates that, “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;” (9:25) is prophetic of the “desolation” of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 CE (Matthew 24:1-22; Luke 21:20-24)[37]


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no gaps...all good:)

Zone:
I am trying to understand your last week:

Your last week began at the baptism of Christ
crucifixion 3.5 years later - i can underatand this and can be proven by 3.5 years of his ministry.

But can you prove that the stoning of stephen/rejection of HS by the jews occured 3.5 years after crucifixion?


And as to the gap thing:
The vision did not say consecutive but seventy weeks.
Can you admit that it is possible that the vision compose of two events:
1- 7+62 : rebuilding of city up to messiah
2. 1 - destruction of city and sanctuary/ confirming the covenant.

The destruction of the city and sanctuary did not occured 3.5 years after crucifixion, so definitely another event if we consider that the vision talks about only of the 70 weeks.

Though, Jesus was the Lamb that take away the sins.
The Jews continued their daily sacrifice in the temple, until it finally ceased when the temple was destroyed in 70AD.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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??

2 Chronicles 36:22
Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom and also put it in writing..

what might be fulfilled (Jeremiah)?:)

Isaiah 45:13
I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness: I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild my city and set my exiles free, but not for a price or reward, says the LORD Almighty."

Isaiah 44:28
who says of Cyrus, 'He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; he will say of Jerusalem, "Let it be rebuilt," and of the temple, "Let its foundations be laid."

so does Isaiah actually say Jerusalem AND the temple?
does it say Cyrus would rebuild the Lord's city?

come on EG...that's what it says.
Thats your problem Zone,

1. I showed you the passages. Which show he JUST authorized the rebuilding of the temple.
2. That Israel was forced to stop by Artaxerxes, because they were attempting to rebuild the CITY, which was NOT AUTHORIZED according to Cyrus' proclamation.
3. That it was Artexerxes that actually gave Nehemiah permision and the kings letter (The edict, or command) to rebuild the city.

Who do I listen to? You or what scripture actually says?

Under King Cyrus, they were allowed to return, they were allowed to rebuild the temple, and most likely parts of the City (places to live) but they were NOT allowed to rebuild the streets and walls. This did not come until Nehemiah was allowed to return and rebuild the actual CITY PROPER.

Why are you so hesitant to listen to what scripture actually records??
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Zone:
I am trying to understand your last week:

Your last week began at the baptism of Christ
crucifixion 3.5 years later - i can underatand this and can be proven by 3.5 years of his ministry.

But can you prove that the stoning of stephen/rejection of HS by the jews occured 3.5 years after crucifixion?


And as to the gap thing:
The vision did not say consecutive but seventy weeks.
Can you admit that it is possible that the vision compose of two events:
1- 7+62 : rebuilding of city up to messiah
2. 1 - destruction of city and sanctuary/ confirming the covenant.

The destruction of the city and sanctuary did not occured 3.5 years after crucifixion, so definitely another event if we consider that the vision talks about only of the 70 weeks.

Though, Jesus was the Lamb that take away the sins.
The Jews continued their daily sacrifice in the temple, until it finally ceased when the temple was destroyed in 70AD.
Thats the part I will not understand. No sacrifice ever took away sin, And even during Christs whole ministry. The sacrifices being done were being done by people who did not even Follow God. They had their own religion!
 

watcher2013

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Thats your problem Zone,

1. I showed you the passages. Which show he JUST authorized the rebuilding of the temple.
2. That Israel was forced to stop by Artaxerxes, because they were attempting to rebuild the CITY, which was NOT AUTHORIZED according to Cyrus' proclamation.
3. That it was Artexerxes that actually gave Nehemiah permision and the kings letter (The edict, or command) to rebuild the city.

Who do I listen to? You or what scripture actually says?

Under King Cyrus, they were allowed to return, they were allowed to rebuild the temple, and most likely parts of the City (places to live) but they were NOT allowed to rebuild the streets and walls. This did not come until Nehemiah was allowed to return and rebuild the actual CITY PROPER.

Why are you so hesitant to listen to what scripture actually records??
The vision did say "from the going forth of the COMMANDMENT to restore..."

And in support:
[Ezr 6:14] KJV And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.

The first to issue the command to rebuild was Cyrus.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The vision did say "from the going forth of the COMMANDMENT to restore..."

And in support:
[Ezr 6:14] KJV And the elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.

The first to issue the command to rebuild was Cyrus.
Jerusalem is a city. The temple is a building.

Dan 9
“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem

Does gabriel tell Daniel from the command to rebuild the temple? or the command to restore the city?

Satan is the master of deception. Don't you think he wants us all to be confused to look away from truth?

Why not just take God literally?

If God wanted us to know that the date would be the command to restor the TEMPLE only, would he not have said so?


 

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Jerusalem is a city. The temple is a building.

Dan 9
“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem

Does gabriel tell Daniel from the command to rebuild the temple? or the command to restore the city?

Satan is the master of deception. Don't you think he wants us all to be confused to look away from truth?

Why not just take God literally?

If God wanted us to know that the date would be the command to restor the TEMPLE only, would he not have said so?


Zone did quote to you Isaiah 45:13 and 44:28 which also talks of the city.

Maybe Satan did confused you from looking from the truth.

Direct from the Lord pertaining to Cyrus:

[Isa 45:13] KJV I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

He shall build my City.
City - jerusalem is a city