What is with all the sexist and homophobic etcetera things in the bible?

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MadParrotWoman

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The world of course causes this confusion. Many teens now believe their sex is a choice rather than something they were born with.

But the "church" here did not respond with love and gentleness to try to erase the confusion. They made him uncomfortable about his confusion and very likely scared him away from talking to "christians" again about this. He came to the right place - he was looking for God's answers ... now will he turn back to the world for answers?
Actually I answered two of his questions to the best of my ability and he called me "hateful", that was when it became apparent he was a troll.

It's one thing to act with kindness but quite another to be taken for a ride - hence I gave up. I hope you have a better experience via pm.
 

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The world of course causes this confusion. Many teens now believe their sex is a choice rather than something they were born with.

But the "church" here did not respond with love and gentleness to try to erase the confusion. They made him uncomfortable about his confusion and very likely scared him away from talking to "christians" again about this. He came to the right place - he was looking for God's answers ... now will he turn back to the world for answers?
Simply untrue. I asked and answered a number of questions...no response, others did the same. Seems like a bit of accusations coming from your end as well.
 
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thepsalmist

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Actually I answered two of his questions to the best of my ability and he called me "hateful", that was when it became apparent he was a troll.

It's one thing to act with kindness but quite another to be taken for a ride - hence I gave up. I hope you have a better experience via pm.
I'm not sure he was responding to you when he said that ... he didn't know how to use quotes ...
 
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Actually I answered two of his questions to the best of my ability and he called me "hateful", that was when it became apparent he was a troll.

It's one thing to act with kindness but quite another to be taken for a ride - hence I gave up.
Ah, you're just being homophobic and hateful. LOL Fish on!!! :)
 
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Thanks for replying.
Do you think people should just pick what parts of the bible that are beloved to be good and live their lives by that then?

One also has to consider a cultural viewpoint. Women were dumber back then than they are now. Lol. Just kidding!
 
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By the way my verses are so messed up in post #42 is irking me I cant edit it, Im like? What planet was I on none of the verses (chapter/verse) are correct.

So before anyone gets on me about it (I know, I just cant change them)
 
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I just really would like someone who is a Christian to tell me about all of those things in the bible, like why they're in there and if you think people should follow those parts of the bible.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

Sincerely Alex.
The Lord said this about homosexuality:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Lev 18:22 RSV

The Lord knows what’s best for us, and if he said we shouldn’t engage in homosexual lust, then we shouldn’t engage in homosexual lust.
 

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By the way my verses are so messed up in post #42 is irking me I cant edit it, Im like? What planet was I on none of the verses (chapter/verse) are correct.

So before anyone gets on me about it (I know, I just cant change them)
You can always click 'reply with quote' then make the corrections' :)
 
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thepsalmist

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After lengthy conversations with our OP I can safely declare that he is NO troll.

In fact, conversations with him was the delight of my day and a blessing from God.

I wish all Christians were as receptive to the word as he is, as sensitive to sin as he is, and as respectful in verbal exchange as this polite, inquiring youth has demonstrated.

I am grateful to God ...
 
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You can always click 'reply with quote' then make the corrections' :)
Thanks crossnote, if it was actually the content versus just the chapter/verses (the manmade add ins) I would do just that, because that would irk me far more.
 

santuzza

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One example of homophobia
Leviticus 18:22New International Version (NIV)


22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
How is that homophobic? How does that demonstrate fear of homosexuals? It's simply God's command. He says that homosexuality is detestable. We're just not suppose to do it. Just like lying, adultery, stealing, worshipping false idols, etc.
 
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I probably wouldnt use the word homophobic simply because its just made up to slam anyone who agrees with Gods word on the same, made up to demonize agreeing with God on the matter.
 
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thepsalmist

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Just answer the question. Is "asexual homoromanticity" what they teach 13 year old's nowadays?
My youngest daughter turned 13 this year and started high school. She came home one day feeling very embarrassed and uncomfortable, with some weird new impressions about sexuality. Apparently all the students were called to the auditorium for an education on all things non-heterosexual ... its purpose? so that no one who was not heterosexual would get bullied.

I was livid.

But, to answer your question: this IS what they teach in schools today ...
 
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One example of homophobia
Leviticus 18:22New International Version (NIV)


22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
You clearly have not actually Thought about any of this, just parroting someone without thinking it through.
So what you're saying is that God, who created all of man, all of the universe, all life and designed our minds and bodies and knows what's best for us is a homophobe. And He's a homophobe because He instructs His creation to live their lives in a manner that is ideal for them And how does He know it's ideal? Because He is the one that made us.
God isn't a homophobe and the very notion of that is simply ridiculous. God is the one that made every molecule, every strand of DNA. That designed our bodies. He CREATED us and all the ways this universe functions. And as the sole, infinite Creator He put into place right and wrong. If He says something is wrong that doesn't not make Him ignorant or phobic. It makes Him knowledgeable of what He intended and expects of His creation. He knew the right and wrong of our behavior before man was ever created.

Besides, most people don't even get what the word homophobe means and use it hypocritically. It's just a trendy catchphrase misused in a world full of ignorant people that think that if you disagree with something the only reason is that you're afraid of it. But only if you disagree with what they say is right. But if they disagree with anything it's because they are educated and enlightened. Pure hypocrisy.
 
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But why is it a sin? Isn't God supposed to love all his children?
If a parent tells their child 'you can't eat the entire bag of cookies' does that make the parent unloving? Or does it mean the parent realizes you can't let the child do anything he/she pleases because it could be harmful. Doesn't telling a child no to something that could have a negative effect on them loving? Does saying no mean that parent doesn't love their child?

And we aren't all His children. The bible says those who are saved are adopted into the family of God to become His sons and daughters.
 

TheAristocat

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I just really would like someone who is a Christian to tell me about all of those things in the bible, like why they're in there and if you think people should follow those parts of the bible.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

Sincerely Alex.
You could mention a passage that you think is racist or sexist, and we could talk about it. And keep in mind that one can talk about real differences between racial groups without being racist. So we could discuss what racism is and why or how certain biblical passages appear racist, along with what their true purpose really is.

For example, some claim that Israel is racist, because its policies favor Jews. But the sole purpose of establishing Israel was for Jews to have refuge in a Jewish state and thereby protect Jews from very real anti-Semitism (I.e. racism) throughout the world. If the Jews started opening up their political offices to Muslim Arabs in an area of the world with a majority of Muslim Arabs that are hostile to the Jewish state, then the Jewish state would quickly become an ineffective guard against anti-Semitism - the purpose for which it was originally established. Jews living in Israel would then quickly become the minority and open to oppressive policies. Liberals like to throw around the world apartheid when referring to Israel. And, yes, in some ways it is similar to an apartheid state, but necessarily so as history has proved time and time again. What about the persecution of Jews throughout Europe during the Middle Ages? During WWII? What about the persecution of Jews in Russia? What about the resentment toward them that is present in modern times?

Racism is not something I understand, because it appears to defy logic. But there are and can be differences between racial groups that are discernible, logical or even necessary in Israel's case.
 

TheAristocat

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One example of homophobia
Leviticus 18:22New International Version (NIV)


22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Having homosexual relations with a man is detestable to me. Why? Because I'm a heterosexual. That doesn't mean I'm afraid of homosexuals (i.e. homophobic) or hold them in disdain. Heterosexuality is my preference. I find other things revolting, too, that aren't necessarily morally wrong to a secular individual. For example, I could never bathe in blood like some cultic sects do. I could never wallow around in a rotting carcass of an animal like dogs and cats like to do. Why? Because it's revolting to me. I view homosexual relationships similarly. I do not hold homosexuals or bisexuals in disdain, but I would never adopt or approve of their sexual preference. And nobody can logically hold me in disdain for not agreeing with behavior that I find repugnant. Such people would be hypocrites, because they do not agree with my personal preferences but at the same time expect me to agree with theirs.

God, who made us male and female, is the ultimate authority on sexual preference when it comes to Christian thought. So when you discuss these topics with Christians, realize that they may have a different view of reality than you do. And before you think about judging anyone, try to see the world through their eyes.

God seems to be a supporter of heterosexual behavior. Otherwise he would have made us functionally androgynous. So if he commands us to follow a heterosexual lifestyle, we are conforming to his plan for his universe by observing a heterosexual lifestyle. And I think that it is more important to conform to a God who created immortal natural laws that govern logic rather than rewrite these laws based on our own 80-year, 30-year or 13-year attempt to grasp the logic present in Nature.
 
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Eternallife

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I just really would like someone who is a Christian to tell me about all of those things in the bible, like why they're in there and if you think people should follow those parts of the bible.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

Sincerely Alex.
Becuase the word gives true life! Make no mistake people want what God is really saying in His word, but people are believing others about what is in the word and not researching it thoroughly for themselves. And by doing that they are being conquered by the white horse.