What is with all the sexist and homophobic etcetera things in the bible?

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The problem O___Alex is you are too young to understand all the pit falls in Gay relationships and Gay sex.

Being Gay is not about a normal relationship with someone else. God warns us about Homosexuality because Homosexuality actually destroys our conscience. Gay people actually hit a point where they cannot differentiate between what is right and what is wrong. Its all about their lusts being fulfilled. This is why God warns us not to go down that path.

Absolute Sex absolutely destroys our brains.

If you are Gay, seek to change, if you are not Gay, then do not seek to become Gay. I guarantee you will regret it if you live the Gay life.
 
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Almost all sin done repeatedly over and over will sear the conscience eventually...
 

Demi777

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The problem O___Alex is you are too young to understand all the pit falls in Gay relationships and Gay sex.

Being Gay is not about a normal relationship with someone else. God warns us about Homosexuality because Homosexuality actually destroys our conscience. Gay people actually hit a point where they cannot differentiate between what is right and what is wrong. Its all about their lusts being fulfilled. This is why God warns us not to go down that path.

Absolute Sex absolutely destroys our brains.

If you are Gay, seek to change, if you are not Gay, then do not seek to become Gay. I guarantee you will regret it if you live the Gay life.

I almost agreed with all your post.. Just this age thing I must disagree with. It has nothing to do with age when it comes to understanding! It makes me so tired to see people always pull the age card. Some people are not as mentally capable in understanding as others. If someone doesnt know something, and always gets fed this liberal vocabulary ''sexism,homophobic,Islamophobic'' why should we not help? I am sure he would have understood very well if people would stop callng everything that isnt in on a certain stand a troll. Everyone has to learn. We didnt grow up knowing what we know
 

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But why is it a sin? Isn't God supposed to love all his children?
The problem youre having with this is you are accepting the earthly teaching that being gay is equal to being black. Its not, not even a little : p Being black is the way you are born, you have no control over it. Being gay means you felt that being with someone of the same gender was appealing, and have decided to give into that urge. You then chose to act out on it on your own. Its no different than, lets say, cheating on your wife. You see another woman and feel the idea of being with her despite making the promise to be faithful to your wife is appealing, and you willingly decide to act out on it.

Can the temptation be tough at times. Sadly, yeah it can. But even still, its a choice you make on your own. No one forced you to do it, you followed out the urge. Just like the their, the idea of stealing something came to their mind. They had the choice to follow it, or ignore it. And they chose to follow it.

Theres not really such a thing as being "gay", its not a way youre created. Homosexuality is merely preforming sexual acts with someone of the same gender. If feeling that being with someone of the same gender is appealing is completely genetic, and you cannot deny it, then we must look at other attractions that way, too. Do we believe people who like to dress up as animals and do perverse things together are born that way and its a part of who they are? No one believes that : p Its merely giving into an urge.

And yes, heterosexuality is the exact same thing, you can ignore and deny it, too. Its nothing but urges : p So its in no way cruel to say its wrong, you chose whether or not you do it, it is not out of your control : p
 

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I almost agreed with all your post.. Just this age thing I must disagree with. It has nothing to do with age when it comes to understanding! It makes me so tired to see people always pull the age card. Some people are not as mentally capable in understanding as others. If someone doesnt know something, and always gets fed this liberal vocabulary ''sexism,homophobic,Islamophobic'' why should we not help? I am sure he would have understood very well if people would stop callng everything that isnt in on a certain stand a troll. Everyone has to learn. We didnt grow up knowing what we know
Oh, Demi.... you're just too young to understand..... :D

JK sis, yankin your chain....

I agree with you... age doesn't always mean ignorance. I know of some young people that are way ahead of more "seasoned" folks in understanding..

I THINK what KA was referring to was the fact that kids are being indoctrinated from a VERY early age on some of these topics, and young people are very impressionable... There are some ideas and concepts that can really only be grasped after experiencing them, and seeing the natural results/consequences of them, and that usually takes time.

A young person that has grown up with the old movie "Bambi" as the only source of information about hunters will think that all hunters are evil.... until they live a little longer, and experience life, and realize that all the meat we eat has come from living animals... and that deer don't form "families", etc....

Some things simply take time... so a 15 yr old telling others what they should believe, or accept, should be taken with several grains of salt..... and understanding toward the young person. Instruction and correction, done lovingly is what is needed.
 

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One example of homophobia
Leviticus 18:22New International Version (NIV)

22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
That's a law, not homophobia.. Just as "Thou shalt not murder" is a law, not homicidal phobia. God created men and women for a purpose, and he simply doesn't want a man to take the place of a woman. Naturally, men aren't designed to do that, God see's it as a perversion of his intended purpose (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Timothy 1:9-10).

Well it says woman aren't allowed to speak in church so isn't that discrimination?
Its important to understand that in 1 Corinthians 14, Paul was writing to a disruptive church in Corinth. The meetings were chaos, everyone speaking at once, and in different languages with no interpreters. Paul wrote; "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church" (1 Corinthians 14:27-28). So Paul told the men to keep quiet prior to telling the women. I believe Paul was trying to encourage an atmosphere of learning instead of confusion. Paul wrote; "Let all things be done unto edifying.. for God is not the author of confusion.. Let all things be done decently and in order" (vs 26,33,&40). So it seems evident that Paul was trying to eliminate everyone talking at once because the chatter and questions were disruptive. Even today, imagine that if everyone talked at once in a service, the primary speaker could not be heard. "For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn" (1 Corinthians 14:31)
 

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I just really would like someone who is a Christian to tell me about all of those things in the bible, like why they're in there and if you think people should follow those parts of the bible.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense and I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

Sincerely Alex.
I saw this thread I was interested in the question and i do not know how everyone has answered it but i would like to give some humble insight. The bible is 66 books put together and in the context of the Biblical narrative we see record of many disturbing things multi marriages, rape, murder , sexual sin , robbery , slavery and many other acts of men and women that are ungodly . They are recorded is scripture not as an endorsement ... but as a reminder of what not to do and how man has then and does today do Evil and needs a savior . Those who use the bible to justify sin or doing evil have taken the Bible out of context and have not good decrement.

We are Christian also believe that with all of the ugliness of sin Jesus is the main reason for the bible so we can come to Know HIM.
 

Demi777

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Yes but it still annoys me when people pull the age card. I see what you and KA mean but still theres exceptions (ha like me busting people on here just for fun) that do know the bible and rebel against the doctrines of the family. And like said.. we dont get born knowing it all. The only one that got born like that was Jesus


Oh, Demi.... you're just too young to understand..... :D

JK sis, yankin your chain....

I agree with you... age doesn't always mean ignorance. I know of some young people that are way ahead of more "seasoned" folks in understanding..

I THINK what KA was referring to was the fact that kids are being indoctrinated from a VERY early age on some of these topics, and young people are very impressionable... There are some ideas and concepts that can really only be grasped after experiencing them, and seeing the natural results/consequences of them, and that usually takes time.

A young person that has grown up with the old movie "Bambi" as the only source of information about hunters will think that all hunters are evil.... until they live a little longer, and experience life, and realize that all the meat we eat has come from living animals... and that deer don't form "families", etc....

Some things simply take time... so a 15 yr old telling others what they should believe, or accept, should be taken with several grains of salt..... and understanding toward the young person. Instruction and correction, done lovingly is what is needed.
 

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I saw this thread I was interested in the question and i do not know how everyone has answered it but i would like to give some humble insight. The bible is 66 books put together and in the context of the Biblical narrative we see record of many disturbing things multi marriages, rape, murder , sexual sin , robbery , slavery and many other acts of men and women that are ungodly . They are recorded is scripture not as an endorsement ... but as a reminder of what not to do and how man has then and does today do Evil and needs a savior . Those who use the bible to justify sin or doing evil have taken the Bible out of context and have not good decrement.

We are Christian also believe that with all of the ugliness of sin Jesus is the main reason for the bible so we can come to Know HIM.
I was just thinking about this yesterday, actually. Soooo many people who want to find ways to make God look "bad" often find stories in the bible of people who did bad things. They use these stories to prove God is somehow evil, but the things these people did, they did on their own. The bible is Gods way of reaching out to a fallen world, and giving them the chance to come to Him before He brings an end to it. Those stories, they are not endorsement of doing evil. Those people were just like we are, now. Sinners who God has decided to give a chance to come to Him.
 
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They are in the bible because they are sinful. Sin is not a matter of opinion. Only God can say what sin is and what it is not. Take any sentence about homosexuality rights, and replace the word with others sins- murder for example, let's try it... "Murderers should be able to marry each other. Murderers should not be discriminated against.

It is not natural, it is depraved. Who puts two keyholes together, or two keys together? A key is made for a keyhole- not for another key. Whether a married couple decide to have children or not, the couple should be the kind to match this- "God has made the two into one, and mankind cannot disassemble." In other words, when a husband and wife make a child, no one can separate the mothers DNA from the fathers DNA in that child. So the two that God makes into one have to be male and female. Even if a doctor makes a pregnancy from a dish- it still requires male and female parts- that is how marriage is defined by God- one man and one woman. When men married more than one woman in the Old Testament, that was not from God. God made one woman for Adam- not a bunch of women, and not another man.
 
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The words of God are a way of knowing what the Father looks like, if you have seen the Son, then you have also seen the Father as well. :)
 
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the bible is not sexist against women...if anything biblical teaching tends to exempt women from many of the messes that men are obligated to get involved in...
 
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Okay well since so many people have replied about stuff to do with gays I'm more concerned right now about the apparent injustice towards woman and I'd greatly appreciate it if you replied.
 

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Okay well since so many people have replied about stuff to do with gays I'm more concerned right now about the apparent injustice towards woman and I'd greatly appreciate it if you replied.
Welcome back, Alex. In order to understand what your objections might be it would help us to define what exactly you are objecting to. You can best do that by giving us example situations from the Bible. In the absence of that, I'll simply define sexism.

Sexism: discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex.
Discriminatory: containing or implying a slight or showing prejudice.
Prejudice: a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation.

So partiality against or abusive behavior toward members of the opposite sex. In this case women. And I do believe you are right about the Bible recording abusive behavior toward women. It's purpose is partly to record History.

As far as God or Christianity condoning this abusive or prejudiced behavior toward women, we would need some examples to review.
 

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watches the tumble weed.

Jesus was the greatest liberator of women and had a huge impact on equality and rights of women.
 
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Okay well since so many people have replied about stuff to do with gays I'm more concerned right now about the apparent injustice towards woman and I'd greatly appreciate it if you replied.
A good way to receive substantial answers to questions is to comment back on them before moving on to another question. I see you brushed off that first question, lumping the answers into a "stuff" bin.

As for the second question, Paul wrote a letter of instruction to Timothy, whom he regarded a fellow apostle, as well as Barnabus, while Tmothy was a chief minister in Ephesus, a Gentile city. The requierments of the following scripture:

1 Timothy 2:9-15 (KJV)
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In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


Is patterned from preferences of God already written in the old covenant. The churches among both Jewish-Christians and Gentile Christians did in fact adopt such rules, not offended over those restrictions on women.

Offenses arise among some living in our modern culture in America, increasingly lacking knowledge of God

Paul gave reasons for his rules about women.

1. The first is posted in v. 13. Adam was first created, then Eve. All through the scriptures the "first born" male was assigned family authority, as it should be now for many reasons.

2. The woman was deceived by Satan, not Adam. Her general curse was the penalty of painful childbearing, while the man would have to work hard seating in the sun. Both had the eternal punishment threat over them.

3. Backing up 2, is 2 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV) [SUP]3 [/SUP] But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

The main concern Paul had about women taking authority above men, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is there is a principle of authority that's inherent between man and woman. God made them the way they are, and in general women will always be women, men will be men, with the exceptions of modern habits of redefining terms to hide their sins.

The principle Paul taught Timothy (and the whole Church) indicates God looks for a man who will assume his God-assigned authority, hear God, then pass on God's message by word and or deed. Women ought to rejoice when their husband obeys God, who will cause the man to love his wife the way God says he should.

God IS who he is, always was, and will be. What God said was unacceptable behavior remains so with him. He can't wink at sins he hates, especially sims he said deserved the very blood of the partners in sin. He changes not. Many people have lost their lives because of perversions, outright rebellion against the holy God. There are no promises to anyone choosing to live a sin lifestyle. The sinner is on his own, regardless of what is believed about Jesus.

Salvation begins with hearing the pure word of God preached, then believing it applies, then giving up sins God hates, then living by faith in Christ.

That offends activist homosexuals/lesbians, etc who tend to grab hold of the currently "all grace" humanistic movement, asserting God forgives anyway. That's a "false gospel" that arose after that of Jesus and his original apostles. There sill be no "gay bar" in God's heaven. No homosexuals or lesbians will parade through his temple. There will be no "Queer Garden" there for the men to frolic, with holy saints forced to look on as a lesson in "acceptance". God will not approve of that there, and certainly doesn't accept it here. He holds off his wrath, letting sin come to full fruit, then send in the reaper angels.
 

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Thanks for replying.
Do you think people should just pick what parts of the bible that are beloved to be good and live their lives by that then?
"People do not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God." Matthew 4:4