1 Thessalonians 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God
1 Thessalonians 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
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{Quote}I've pointed out how 1Th5:2-3 also says the DOTL ARRIVES like the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR]" of a woman with child/in labor (same word as Jesus used in His Olivet Discourse, but in the PLURAL coz He was telling about, not only the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; Matt24:4/Mk13:5 {Quote}
1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child and they shall not escape. (ODIN)
Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. (ODINON)
Am I correct in that the difference between "SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMETH" and calling it a "PANG" and "THE BEGINNING OF SORROWS" and calling them "PANGS"
that you have concluded they are different events at different times? and different arrivals of the coming of the Lord????? AND IF NOT WHAT IS YOUR POINT??
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day we are not of the night, nor of darkness
1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
(WE SHOULD NOT FALL ASLEEP ON THE JOB, NOT DEATH SLEEP)
1 Thessalonians 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
(WHETHER WE ARE AWAKE OR ASLEEP IN OUR BEDS WE LIVE WITH CHRIST)
{Quote}So, I've made the point that the SEQUENCE which is repeated 3x in 2Th2 is the SAME SEQUENCE as found in 1Th4-5. {Quote}
Once again, I don't see at all what you are talking about, surprise surprise. But I must tell you, it is truly to difficult to figure out for me, so If I skip a bunch of stuff don't be offended, I just don't have the time or energy sometimes.
1 Thessalonians 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God
1 Thessalonians 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2 Thessalonians 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Thessalonians 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2 Thessalonians 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
2 Thessalonians 2:17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ and shall deceive many.