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Also to *attempt* to put his circumcision thing to rest...

Also who actually carried out the circumcisions? could it be done by anyone or just a priest?

Yahshua was circumcised by a priest I believe? Seeing as Yahshua is our High Priest we are to be circumcised by Him. The Spiritual fact of it goes from the OT to current times, Spiritual circumcision.

*This doesent mean we dont commit murder spiritually but its ok to do it physically*
It doesn't matter who circumcised who. That's not specified in the law. Abraham circumcised his own sons and servants.

You're not trying to put this issue to rest. You're just trying every way you can to avoid answering it in a straightforward manner.
 

Hizikyah

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It doesn't matter who circumcised who. That's not specified in the law. Abraham circumcised his own sons and servants.

You're not trying to put this issue to rest. You're just trying every way you can to avoid answering it in a straightforward manner.
No It was a honest question, because I was uncertain if circumcision was only done by levites.

I was circumcised as a baby so circumcision is something I have not spent time studying, I felt there were issues that needed immediate attention. Eventually I would like to know every principle of Yahweh word but I dont think this is possible in a human lifetime, so I try to focus on what I see as immediate. Salvation issues and what i am to do once I follow Yahweh. Again I have been circumcised so for me it is not something I looked into much.
 

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You continually post your broken-record quotation of Matthew 5:19, and make veiled comments and insinuations in regard to it that people who don't view obedience as you do are headed for trouble. I'm only asking that you apply the same rule to Paul and tell us if he is in danger because he taught (teaches) to disregard a commandment of GOD.
Saying disobeying Yahweh is a bad idea, especially using THE WORDS OF YAHSHUA is not judgement...

rebuke and judgement are not the same thing.
 
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And still he goes on and on and on ? Take a break friend? Question was valid I gave you answer now u use same question to entice more b more get a grip man ? Move on
 
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He rose from the dead?, you got it spot on more questions even after many answered let him be now lest it go more n more days of endless talk?
 
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I have not judged you, sorry for some reason you apparently think I have and I tell you now as before I do not judge you or anyone, I have no right to. I do have the right to point out things I see that might get out of control, and bring flesh into the mix.
Such as you taking offense to things I posted, and you have for some reason taken it personally, which I never meant.
A man must learn to understand the motives of human beings, their illusions, and their sufferings.
Sorry for any offenses, can you please point ut to me were you thought I am accusing you, please
,your quote.
sorry for any offenses, can you please point ut to me were you thought I am accusing you, please
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may be, the confusing thing is on this side of the pc. is you think, you have already answered for me, when i responed to what you said last time. sorry if you mist, what i was trying to saying.and by looking at this post A man must learn to understand the motives of human beings, your the one that is saying this. so you must think there is some kind of offence this side of the pc. (as in my side). there is a difference in judgement of actions and how you understand ,what you read out a book. v judgement of people. may be this is ware the confusion lies.

 
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To homwardbound, You are confusing what happened 2,000 yrs. ago, with our being born of God today. God did not save us when Jesus died. We were not yet born. We did not exist! The "death" of Christ did nothing TO us or IN us. WE WERE NOT THERE! When the Bible say"dying with Jesus and rising with Jesus" it is not "literal" it is "symbolical" of what is to come latter, after we are first born of our mother. I died "with" Jesus in 1961 when God ,Jesus, "applied" His work on the cross, 2,000 yrs ago, to my heart and made me a NEW creation in Christ. "If anyone be in Christ, a NEW CREATION, old things pased away, new things come, all these things are of God." 2Cor.5:17-18. In a very real and dangerous way, you are denying the work of God's power IN our hearts that saves us from a life of sin to holiness of life, in a moment of time ,in 1961, Jesus came into my life and gave me SPIRITUAL birth into His family. Jesus' death on the cross did nothing TO me or IN me. Jesus death on the cross SECURED the salvation of all the "elect of God of all time, BUT King David and all the rest of the dead saints, were already "born of God" and in Abraham's bosom ,saved, when Jesus was dying for them, They were already saved and safe from Hell fire. The death of Jesus did nothing TO them ,BUT Jesus death did everything FOR them. Jesus' DEATH garranteed their eternal life. This is the big problem with sal. teaching today: it denys the Born again exp. as a POWERFUL TRANSFORMATION of God's power IN us ,TO us, UPON us. Justification is God's work FOR us, BUT Sanctification is God's work, IN us. AND Sanctification comes FIRST, Justification follows the new birth. We can not savingly believe on Jesus without the New Heart. "Believeing on Jesus is truely the WORK of God IN us, causing us to believe on Jesus. This is why Jesus said in JH. 3:21 " But he who DOES ( obeys ) the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God. Our holy actions ,works, are only possible after God gives us the new birth after God 's power ("IN God"'s power) transforms us , then we can come to Jesus and do good deeds that are accepted as good by God. then our works are not dirty but holy to God. Juses death never saved anyone; BUT Jesus' death secured the sal. of the "elect" and provided sal. for all who would believe on Jesus. Love to all, Hoffco
 
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Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
This is the greatest and most important commandment.
The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.
All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments.
 
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Original post by hoffco??? ... To homwardbound, You are confusing what happened 2,000 yrs. ago, with our being born of God today. God did not save us when Jesus died. We were not yet born. We did not exist! The "death" of Christ did nothing TO us or IN us. WE WERE NOT THERE! When the Bible say"dying with Jesus and rising with Jesus" it is not "literal" it is "symbolical" of what is to come latter, after we are first born of our mother. I died "with" Jesus in 1961 when God ,Jesus, "applied" His work on the cross, 2,000 yrs ago, to my heart and made me a NEW creation in Christ. "If anyone be in Christ, a NEW CREATION, old things pased away, new things come, all these things are of God." 2Cor.5:17-18. In a very real and dangerous way, you are denying the work of God's power IN our hearts that saves us from a life of sin to holiness of life, in a moment of time ,in 1961, Jesus came into my life and gave me SPIRITUAL birth into His family. Jesus' death on the cross did nothing TO me or IN me. Jesus death on the cross SECURED the salvation of all the "elect of God of all time, BUT King David and all the rest of the dead saints, were already "born of God" and in Abraham's bosom ,saved, when Jesus was dying for them, They were already saved and safe from Hell fire. The death of Jesus did nothing TO them ,BUT Jesus death did everything FOR them. Jesus' DEATH garranteed their eternal life. This is the big problem with sal. teaching today: it denys the Born again exp. as a POWERFUL TRANSFORMATION of God's power IN us ,TO us, UPON us. Justification is God's work FOR us, BUT Sanctification is God's work, IN us. AND Sanctification comes FIRST, Justification follows the new birth. We can not savingly believe on Jesus without the New Heart. "Believeing on Jesus is truely the WORK of God IN us, causing us to believe on Jesus. This is why Jesus said in JH. 3:21 " But he who DOES ( obeys ) the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God. Our holy actions ,works, are only possible after God gives us the new birth after God 's power ("IN God"'s power) transforms us , then we can come to Jesus and do good deeds that are accepted as good by God. then our works are not dirty but holy to God. Juses death never saved anyone; BUT Jesus' death secured the sal. of the "elect" and provided sal. for all who would believe on Jesus. Love to all, Hoffco ???, never heard such heresy in my life? Our holy actions our holy works ? You deny the gift that Jesus,s death brought humanity? Seen much of your posts and told you before. Your a mere man with massive words? Empty nonetheless your a law unto yourself ? Get a grip man? Our this our that? There's nothing good in any of us without Christ ? End of simple? Alter that and your saying more than god has said? Silly heresy people please ignore this foolery?? C
 

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Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Tell me. are you under the law and are trying to obey it, after your belief in God through Christ? A hearer that no flesh can perform?
Or a doer because of Christ?
 

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Plainly written, huh?

The law commands circumcision. Paul called circumcision nothing and taught believers not to obey that commandment. According to your interpretation of Matthew 5:19 he will be considered among the least in the kingdom of heaven.
Actually he taught free will. if one wants to be circumcised, then go for it, just do it not do it as by one has to in order to be saved by God through Christ
Free will freed from the stress of having to do what no flesh can do, except Christ alone did in ones stead at the cross
 
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Actually he taught free will. if one wants to be circumcised, then go for it, just do it not do it as by one has to in order to be saved by God through Christ
Free will freed from the stress of having to do what no flesh can do, except Christ alone did in ones stead at the cross
he gave a bible yet see the diference between the good and the bad and the ugly. knowing full well eejits, will think i am as stupid as them ,he has the whole world in his hands. have i under stood what the bible is saying saying to mankind. the joy of faith god bless all . and give the eejits some your helping hand heavenly father .see you when i see you dad , out of intrest what do you think about that race tommorrow. love you more than word can say jesus.
 
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Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
This is the greatest and most important commandment.
The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.
All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments.
And since the foundation is built upon the "prophets, the apostles, Christ JESUS being the Chief Corner stone," shouldn't we know what those commandments are about?

Considering the gospels and the words that Jesus spoke, shouldn't we be seeking HIM and HIS righteousness from beginning to end? (Genesis through revelation?)
 
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I liked what Welshman, said, he said: "There is nothing good in any of us without Christ" That is my testimony exactly.! I was lost and Jesus found me. I was dead and Jesus made me alive. I was helpless and Jesus' power gave me the will and power to come to Christ for salvation.I was a godless, wicked sinner and Jesus gave me a godly , holy nature to obey Jesus and live a good , righteous life. This is grace, God's power and love. G.od's R.egeneration at C.hrist's E.nergizing and G.od's R.iches at C.hrist E.xpense I will continually give Jesus thanks for living, dying and rising from the dead to pay my penalty for my sin. and thank you Jesus for saving me in 1961 as I gave myself to you, asking for your forgiveness of my sins against your holy law which condemned me. Thank you for making me a new Creation , to live and die for you. I am forever grateful. Love to all Hoffco
 
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This just brought tears to my eyes as this is so true in my life people and I bet some of you out there feel it to, take courage in this post? you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:





Have you ever felt forgotten by God? I know I've felt that way. Does God seem to be blessing everyone except you? Do your expectations of God seem to meet with cold indifference from Him? Do you find yourself asking "What is God doing?" and "What's going on here?" If your answer is "yes," then rejoice, because you are at the edge of a miracle! You are on the verge of a breakthrough! Don't give up now your door is about to swing open!


Any woman knows the most difficult time of any birth is the few moments right before you deliver your baby into the world. You’re tired and exhausted beyond what you can endure. The last thing you want to hear again is PUSH! You can’t take it anymore! You have pushed and pushed and have exhausted all your strength! You don’t have another push in of you! You want to scream, and you do: "I can't do this . . . I can't!" BUT you must! You know you can’t keep that child inside of you! It is at this moment that you must push the hardest and exert yourself the most. You are crying, "I can't," and everyone around you is yelling, "PUSH!" Easy for them to say, they are not the one lying there going through all that pain! Yet, you know they are right, you have to PUSH!


Then, somewhere deep inside you, the strength arises! You now have determination where hopelessness used to dwell. Now you cry from the depths of your heart, "I can," and "I will!" You push! You’re at that same place now - on the verge of a breakthrough. Perhaps you are tired of believing, tired of hearing another prophecy, but you can't give up now. That's what the enemy wants you to do. Only you can break through to your miracle! Only you can give birth to your dream! Only you can fight through to your dream's fulfillment, no one else. God will give you His strength when you have none of your own. When you fall short, He will pick you up because, "He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak" (Isaiah 40:29).


YOU ARE A HIDDEN MIRACLE


I have felt this way and I know some of you have too. I have felt like God had forgotten me. I wondered if the promise would ever be fulfilled - if God would ever open the door. I had been teetering on the edge of a breakthrough for so long that I allowed doubt to creep in. I began to say, "Would it ever really happen?" "Maybe God has changed His mind?" “Maybe what I dreamed wasn’t from the Lord.” I was tired of waiting, of praying, of hoping in faith! I felt like a butterfly in a cocoon, hidden and forgotten. Have you been there?


"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose" (Romans 8:28).
He has you hidden for a purpose; you are His secret Weapon! Don’t give up now!


PAIN GIVES BIRTH TO LIFE


God will sometimes take us through “painful, ugly" situations only to turn us into something beautiful. Something that will glorify His Name. Look at the painful death of our Saviour. Had He not gone through, had He not endured, where would we be? How could His Father have been glorified? How could we have ever known how much the Father loves us?


The situation that you are in right now is the "death" that will give birth to your dream. The pain that you’re enduring could be the launching pad for your future. Don’t allow the enemy to cause you to give up on your dreams. If you feel as though you are invisible, rejoice, because you are. God has hidden you away to change you in secret, but soon He will pull you out like a secret weapon and show you off to the world.


THIS COULD BE THE DAY


Each day that you wake up, and give God the glory, and wait on His timing for your destiny's fulfillment is one day closer to its birth. You don’t want to quit now. As you come closer to your time of delivery, you begin to feel in your spirit that the time is near. Perhaps today will be the day! You begin to look around you and see your brothers and sisters receive the promises of God in their lives - you are happy for them. You say to yourself “Lord when is it going to be my turn? When will my destiny come forth like God promised it would?” Each day we must prepare our hearts to believe that, "this could be the day He fulfills His promises to me". Each day we must “EXPECT A MIRACLE”. Each day we must be ready to receive, and then suddenly He does.


The longer you worship and praise the Lord, the deeper you will trust Him to bring His promises to pass in your life. As you come closer to the time of receiving the fulfillment of His call on your life, you can know that each day will bring you one day closer. Today, yes this day could be the day you receive a great blessing from God. Today could hold the answer you have been waiting for.


Wait in faith through each day expecting to receive your promise as a woman waiting to give birth. God does not bring you to the time of birth just to stop the whole process. In other words, He didn’t bring you this far to leave you now. He has not forgotten you. He will not forget you! It will happen! You must always remember, “He who began a good work in you will be faithful to complete it" (Philippians 1:6).


"God is not a man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act?" (Numbers 23:19).


If He's promised it, He will do it!






Say this with me: God always keeps His promises. God will do what He has promised. He has not forgotten me, for I am constantly in His thoughts. I must not give up on God, for He is waiting to fulfill His Word through me. I know it will happen! This could be the day! God cannot lie; He will not change His mind. I choose to believe what God has spoken and not the lies of fear and doubt.


"I want you to Pray. Pray without ceasing. Do not give me up; I haven’t given up on you. Don’t grow weary; don’t lose sight of the promises I have spoken to you. They will come to pass. Remember they are YES and AMEN in Christ Jesus. Keep your eyes on Me. Do not allow the enemy to cause you to lose your focus and start to dwell on the things of this world, on the circumstances of this time. This world will pass away, and everything in it, but My Word will last forever. Focus on Me, Focus on My Word, and I will strengthen your heart. Remember that this fight is not against flesh and blood, but against forces that rage in the heavens. Fight the good fight of faith.


"I am neither a silent God, nor am I a deaf God that does not hear your prayers. I am working - even where you cannot see, even in places you do not know; I am working ALL THINGS for the good. Pray. Pray my child. Pray in power. Pray in strength. Pray with the authority that I have given you. I have called you by name. Keep planting those seeds of prayer, don’t grow weary, do not stop praying, and don’t grow weak. See, the seasons are turning. It may look one way now, but soon you will see it with spiritual eyes. Stay alert...watching and praying! Soon you shall see what your prayers have accomplished."


So I say unto to each of you this day "Do not stop. Pray! Pray! Pray!" We must be like Jacob and don’t let go until we receive our blessing.


HE HAS NOT FORGOTTEN YOU









COUNT YOUR BLESSING, NOT YOUR PROBLEMS


A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up a $20.00 bill. In the room of 200, he asked, who would like this $20 bill? Hands started going up. He said, I am going to give this $20 to one of you but first, let me do this. He proceeded to crumple the $20 dollar bill up. He then asked, who still wants it?


Still the hands were up in the air.


Well, he replied, What if I do this. And he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it into the floor with his shoe. He picked it up, now crumpled, and dirty. Now who still wants it? Still the hands went into the air.


My friends, we have all learned a very valuable lesson. No matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $20. Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value. Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased, you are still priceless to those who love you.


The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or whom we know, but by WHO WE ARE. You are special - Don't EVER forget it.


Count your blessings, not your problems. Never be afraid to try something new




The most destructive habit.........……….................Worry


The greatest Joy...................................………......Giving


The greatest loss................……….....Loss of self-respect


The most satisfying work.............……......Helping others


The ugliest personality trait.................……….Selfishness


The most endangered species.………....Dedicated leaders


Our greatest natural resource.............………....Our youth


The greatest "shot in the arm"....………...Encouragement


The greatest problem to overcome........……….........Fear


The most effective sleeping pill.....……....Peace of mind


The most crippling failure disease.....……..........Excuses


The most powerful force in life.................….….......Love


The most dangerous pariah.........…..…….........A gossiper


The world's most incredible computer. ………....The brain


The worst thing to be without......…….......…........... Hope


The deadliest weapon.........................………...The tongue


The two most power-filled words.............………..."I Can"


The greatest asset....................................…………...Faith


The most worthless emotion................………......Self-pity


The most beautiful attire.............................……...SMILE!


The most prized possession....................……….. Integrity


The most powerful channel of communication.…....Prayer


The most contagious spirit............………........Enthusiasm


Dana, thanks so much for sharing






IT MAY BE DELAYED, BUT IT'S NOT DENIED




...Do not fear, from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come because of your words. Daniel 10:12

We all have goals, dreams, and visions in life. We pray about them and try to hold fast to them, because with faith in Jesus we know they will come to pass. And, when they do, it is the most wonderful feeling. A dream becoming reality, a prayer answered, and our faith in God strengthened even more.

But there are times the enemy will cloud the vision that God gives us. He may not be able to read your mind, but he can hear your words. He sees your actions (and reactions) and knows your "hot buttons". He knows just what buttons to push, and when to push them to get your mind off the vision. He would like nothing better than to steal our dreams. But he can't steal our dreams, unless we let him. This is why it's so important for us to hold fast our confession of faith. It's so important be diligent in our faith. "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:8)

Disappointment can open a door for the enemy to slip in and "steal, kill and destroy" (John 10:10), our hopes and dreams. There is a song entitled "When God is Silent", that I truly love. It talks about how when God is silent He is giving us more time to pray. If you're praying and praying and praying for something and it just hasn't arrived yet, keep praying! PUSH! Pray until something happens. Then pray some more.


There are times when we pray to God for an answer, and it seems that all hope is gone. There is no need to spend time worrying, just fall down on your needs again and again. Jesus prayed the same prayer three times in the Garden, the night before He gave His life for us (Matthew 26:44, Luke 22:41-44), and the Lord sent the angels to minister unto Him to give Him the strength He needed to make it to the cross. If you believe God is working all things out to your benefit, you have to believe His timing is part of that. He wouldn't have given His only Son if He wasn't going to keep His promise to us.


I want to encourage you this day, not to be disappointed at what appears to be a lack of results in prayer. We have no idea what the Lord is doing on our behalf to answer our prayers. We cannot see it, but rest assured His is working it out. What He requires from us is faith to believe that the Word of God is true. Just because you FEEL the answer isn't coming, do not let the enemy make you BELIEVE your prayer has been denied. Keep your eyes focused on Jesus, and keep praying in faith, remembering to thank Him and praise Him for all He has done. Remember: GOD IS FAITHFUL!






DON'T GIVE UP


2 Corinthians 4:8 "We are pressed on every side by troubles, but not crushed and broken. We are perplexed because we don't know why things happen as they do, but we don't give up and quit."


Every day is a new day. All things are being made new. The old is being eliminated from the lives of the people, and a fresh breeze is blowing, bringing in the new.


I do not want you to be discouraged, and give up hope. You will be avenged and you will move into the work I have prepared for you. I am going before you and hemming you in from behind. I am encompassing you with My love. Nothing will be able to touch you, to shake you, to throw you off guard, for I am doing a complete work within you. Every idol is being brought to the ground, and you will honor Me with your whole being. So please don't give up.


I see the struggle within you. I see you are being torn, tossed upon the waves of the storm, but do not lose hope. Do not give up. Do not believe the lies of the enemy. Do not bow down to the intimidator. Instead cling to the promises I have given to you, that when the storms are over, you will get up onto your feet and you shall be changed, made new, no longer divided in heart, and I will bring you into the fullness of your calling.


You can’t lose hope now; you have come to far to give up. Why do you think that I cannot over-ride the present situation? I can, and I will. I will take what seems, once again, like an impossible situation and put My stamp of approval upon it. Push through to heights unknown. Do not be content to live on the surface of life, but press in to the fullness offered to you through My Son. Do not back down, but gear up and move forward. Those who try to slow you down will not be successful. I shall take the reigns out of their hands. No longer will they be a hindrance in your walk. I want you to set your sights on things above and do not be thrown off guard by the so-called successes of men trying to deceive you.


The day is coming when the truth shall be revealed and each one will be assigned his portion in the land, his inheritance, and the reward for what he has done. So be faithful in the call and I shall reward you with blessings untold. Trust Me to provide for your every need. Trust Me to lift you up and out of despair and into heavenly blessings.


So I say to you do not be discouraged. Do not give up hope, I haven’t forsaken you.






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This is my Christianity people, very real very tough sometimes very lonely sometimes troubled on all fronts health residence financial worries bt Jesus is amongst all of it hidden among the issues if the world and your tv pictures today are not ripping your heart into pieces if your grieving inside groaning as righteousness is trampled by secular atheists in power coupled together with massive 98% people working to make the lives of 2% more luxurious if your not offended by veterans in the USA and British soldiers commiting suicide cos the state wnt pay I could go on for pages bt I say this people Jesus ain't looking for perfect children with perfect doctrine no Jesus is with the weepers today the mourning, the quiet prayer person ?, Jesus knows us inside already he knows why the abused malfunction he knows the fatherless find it hard to trust him as father? The addict who is in torment in body bt knows Jesus in his heart il tell you people want to find Jesus today? He's in the gutter finding the lost who are his, this were Jesus is working most churches have today gt about as much of Jesus in them as you'll find in a masons lodge? Meaning near none? We're Jesus is in church your lucky ones? Most have kicked him out bt he knows his own and none can snatch out of his hand amen thank you Jesus for being as real as it gets ?
 
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The endless debate on here regards laws let me tell you meeting needs in real life with real people's issues in real time today tomorrow every day, being Christlike is saying hello, wat needs you gt, can I help you, all sorts stuff keeping quiet wen others are giving it mouth , the list is endless, so are the needs of people so let this mind be in you? Christ is we're most people choose to avoid, in the drug clinics, in shelters, in the gutter? Yes you lookin for Jesus visit one these places put money on it brothers you will find him there no ifs buts doubts about it he there ??
 

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Tell me. are you under the law and are trying to obey it, after your belief in God through Christ? A hearer that no flesh can perform?
Or a doer because of Christ?
You have asked me this a few times already.... It was only when I truly accepted Yahshua and I was then changed, I was no longer in oppisition to Yahweh's Law... the ENMITY is gone in me

Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity to the Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to Yahweh through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."

Romans 8:6-8, "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; bitterly opposed to, Yahweh; for it his not subject to the Law of Yahweh, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please Yahweh."

Is there a before and after THE CROSS.
what is before and what is different after?
you flesh betrays you in you will to attack obedience as a flaw...

Yes, the priesthood has been transferred, but the INSTRUCTIONS will never be done away!

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:14-15, "Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
 

Hizikyah

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Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness