What makes it impossible for a carnal mind to be subject to the law?
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The beginning of the church was when Peter opened the doors to the kingdom (church) with the keys (The Gospel) and those who obey the Gospel on earth will be held to in heaven, those who do not obey the Gospel on earth will be held to in heaven (Mat. 16:19)
Matthew 16:19 (NKJV)
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Peter opened the doors to the Church with the Gospel (Keys), those that obeyed the gospel were added (by the Lord) to the church, those who repented and were baptized received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit :
Acts 2:38 (NKJV)
Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 16:19 (NKJV)
And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Peter opened the doors to the Church with the Gospel (Keys), those that obeyed the gospel were added (by the Lord) to the church, those who repented and were baptized received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit :
Acts 2:38 (NKJV)
Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Besides the Apostles on Pentecost, and the house of Cornelius, show one more person baptized with the HS... you cannot.
This HS baptism was a prophecy of Joel (Joel 2:28-29) :
Joel 2:28-29 (NKJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. [SUP]29 [/SUP] And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
Affirmed by Peter on the day of Pentecost acts 2 :
Acts 2:17-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. [SUP]18 [/SUP] And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.
It was fulfilled (Jew on Pentecost, Gentile with the house of Cornelius), no longer required. all other transfer of the HS was laying on of hands "by an apostle", the HS baptism never saved anyone.
This HS baptism was a prophecy of Joel (Joel 2:28-29) :
Joel 2:28-29 (NKJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. [SUP]29 [/SUP] And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
Affirmed by Peter on the day of Pentecost acts 2 :
Acts 2:17-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. [SUP]18 [/SUP] And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.
It was fulfilled (Jew on Pentecost, Gentile with the house of Cornelius), no longer required. all other transfer of the HS was laying on of hands "by an apostle", the HS baptism never saved anyone.
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Dude, Why do you continue to refuse to answer my question.
What does the word baptise mean?
And Yes I can show you.
Rom 6. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? [SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit
col 2: 11 - 12 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body 8of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
of course, if you continue to refuse to find out what the GREEK WORD baptizo means. You will fail to understand all these things are HS baptism. As col 2 says, It is IN THE WORKING OF GOD WHO RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD.
I mean, Unless you think the man who baptised you raised Christ from the dead.
What does the word baptise mean?
And Yes I can show you.
Rom 6. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? [SUP]4 [/SUP]Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit
col 2: 11 - 12 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body 8of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
of course, if you continue to refuse to find out what the GREEK WORD baptizo means. You will fail to understand all these things are HS baptism. As col 2 says, It is IN THE WORKING OF GOD WHO RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD.
I mean, Unless you think the man who baptised you raised Christ from the dead.
Could that actually be the Ecclesia, (called out ones) not the Church as is what is accepted toady as truth, when Church only means building when compare the two words in truth, and see this truth, the word Ecclesia was changed to the word Church except in very few places in acts, to make the word not mean what it means
Just pointing out things that are changed to bring home different meanings, of flesh control Or God control, depending on man's decision in serving the self or God
Just pointing out things that are changed to bring home different meanings, of flesh control Or God control, depending on man's decision in serving the self or God
And Peter came to see himself in error when he said I perceive God has no respect of persons:
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
peter had recently gone on and went ot the Gentile house and saw what happened how this Holy Ghost fell on them without any rituals done, read Acts 9-11 to get that context please, I think it important. And is why Peter said that water baptism was good, not for removing sins, but as a good conscience to God. He changed his thought on the subject after seeing what he saw
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Peter being in flesh like me and you had to discern truth, and did. Even Christ said to Peter that Satan wished to sift him like wheat, and said Chirst he prayed for his Faith, and when he returned from that battle, he would strengthen the brethren.
And Peter by far is not the only person ever used by God, there are many Saints, as well that had to learn truth over error
Luke 22:31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to have you, to sift you like wheat,
Luke 22:32 but I have pleaded in prayer for you that your faith should not completely fail. So when you have repented and turned to me again, strengthen and build up the faith of your brothers.”
Only Father can reveal this truth over man's mix of error into truth, praying and knowing Father will do this for all that Father sees to do this for, knowing each and their true motives
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
peter had recently gone on and went ot the Gentile house and saw what happened how this Holy Ghost fell on them without any rituals done, read Acts 9-11 to get that context please, I think it important. And is why Peter said that water baptism was good, not for removing sins, but as a good conscience to God. He changed his thought on the subject after seeing what he saw
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Peter being in flesh like me and you had to discern truth, and did. Even Christ said to Peter that Satan wished to sift him like wheat, and said Chirst he prayed for his Faith, and when he returned from that battle, he would strengthen the brethren.
And Peter by far is not the only person ever used by God, there are many Saints, as well that had to learn truth over error
Luke 22:31 “Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to have you, to sift you like wheat,
Luke 22:32 but I have pleaded in prayer for you that your faith should not completely fail. So when you have repented and turned to me again, strengthen and build up the faith of your brothers.”
Only Father can reveal this truth over man's mix of error into truth, praying and knowing Father will do this for all that Father sees to do this for, knowing each and their true motives
personally, God is no respecter of persons, I received gifts before water Baptism and never had to do water Baptism I personally did it as a good conscience towards God
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.
John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
John 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
John 4:12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
John 4:13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
John 4:14 but whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
John 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
John 4:12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?
John 4:13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:
John 4:14 but whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
Gift, nothing else, Gift if I have to do anything work wise the gift is void
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
Please understand this if I give you something, it is a gift right? Now if I come to you later expecting you to do something since I gave you you a gift to begin with, would the gift be made void?
Ephesians 2:9 not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
Please understand this if I give you something, it is a gift right? Now if I come to you later expecting you to do something since I gave you you a gift to begin with, would the gift be made void?
Ephesians 2:9 not of works, lest any man should boast.
That was the purpose of John's Baptizing, he was sent before to start this public Baptism, that had not ever been done before in the public, only by the priests in the levitical Priesthood, not in the open
So Father brought in john to announce their savior arrive, when he saw the dove descend upon his Son
Then John's Job was over. and the new begining being baptized in Spirit and truth, by Father came into play after the the death, burial, resurrection and Ascension of Christ
John said after he did hios job he was called to do he was to:
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
[h=3]Acts 1:5[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Today we all here today are after the cross and after the day of Pentecost. There is a gigantic difference between the two is there not?
So Father brought in john to announce their savior arrive, when he saw the dove descend upon his Son
Then John's Job was over. and the new begining being baptized in Spirit and truth, by Father came into play after the the death, burial, resurrection and Ascension of Christ
John said after he did hios job he was called to do he was to:
John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
[h=3]Acts 1:5[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Today we all here today are after the cross and after the day of Pentecost. There is a gigantic difference between the two is there not?
John even said to Jesus that he needed Baptized by Jesus, and Jesus said he had to do all that is right. Jesus came toi fulfill the levitical Priesthood law, that was being used and abused un righteously, to bring home the truth of Mercy and for us to react in appreciation and give Mercy as much as we have received Mercy or we might end back in prison as the man did, who begged and begged for Mercy, got it and then went out in unappreciative and dragged another to court that owed him, and did not give Mercy to that man.
Maybe you have read that parable, do not know, yet for me, Mercy I have received, so thank you for this reminder Mercy I shall give whether one asks for it or not
Maybe you have read that parable, do not know, yet for me, Mercy I have received, so thank you for this reminder Mercy I shall give whether one asks for it or not
Yes I said the HS baptism never saved anyone, it was not a mistake, it was done by Christ only, it was only done twice, once to the Jew (Pentecost) and once to the Gentile (no respecter of person house of Cornelius) fulfilling the prophecy of Joel, and as you can see, the house of Cornelius was water baptized in Acts 10:47-48,
Acts 10:47-48 (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP] "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" [SUP]48 [/SUP] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.
it was the water baptism that saved them washing away their sins:
Acts 22:16 (KJV)
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
All 8 conversions were water baptized, Eph 4:4-5 says there is one saving baptism, when did the Eunuch rejoice? at the time he believed (Acts 8:37) or after he was water baptized (Acts 8:39)
Acts 8:37-39 (NKJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." [SUP]38 [/SUP] So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. [SUP]39[/SUP]Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 10:47-48 (NKJV)
[SUP]47 [/SUP] "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" [SUP]48 [/SUP] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.
it was the water baptism that saved them washing away their sins:
Acts 22:16 (KJV)
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
All 8 conversions were water baptized, Eph 4:4-5 says there is one saving baptism, when did the Eunuch rejoice? at the time he believed (Acts 8:37) or after he was water baptized (Acts 8:39)
Acts 8:37-39 (NKJV)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." [SUP]38 [/SUP] So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. [SUP]39[/SUP]Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing.