What makes it impossible for a carnal mind to be subject to the law?
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Yet you have not shown how following the law can show us how to be Christlike. Or show us how to be righteous.
"though shalt not bear false witness"
Those words tell me what I should not do. It does not tell me
1. How to do it
2. Why I should do it
3. Why it would be much better not to do it
4. What I should do instead.
on the contrary, if I go around thinking to myself, "I better not bear false witness" It will always be on my mind, and when something is on your mind, you will be tempted to do it if the temptation comes up. (paul tried to show this argument in his epistle)
Is it not better to think on the things of God, than to think on what I should not do?? If I am thinking of the things of God. the temptation to bear false witness will not even come up, because I would not even be thinking of it.
"though shalt not bear false witness"
Those words tell me what I should not do. It does not tell me
1. How to do it
2. Why I should do it
3. Why it would be much better not to do it
4. What I should do instead.
on the contrary, if I go around thinking to myself, "I better not bear false witness" It will always be on my mind, and when something is on your mind, you will be tempted to do it if the temptation comes up. (paul tried to show this argument in his epistle)
Is it not better to think on the things of God, than to think on what I should not do?? If I am thinking of the things of God. the temptation to bear false witness will not even come up, because I would not even be thinking of it.
Deuteronomy 30:19-20, I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefor choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live. That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
I follow Christ, and I learn from all scripture including the law. *Jesus Christ gave the law to Moses, and today there are many who cannot grasp that reality.
Colossians 1:12-17 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and *by him all things consist.
Colossians 1:12-17 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and *by him all things consist.
To back up post # 89
Deuteronomy 8:3 is considered part of the law, and I'm sure there is agreement to that.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Matthew 4:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 14:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Malachi 3:6a (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For I am the LORD, I change not;
Hebrews 13:8-9 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
There is a new temple in Christ. Who do you think sits on the mercy seat of the new temple? There is a relationship likened unto a parable from the temple made by man, and the new one made by Christ Jesus. Without the shadow of things to come we have no idea what the end result reality means because we have nothing to compare it with.
Exodus 25:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Deuteronomy 8:3 is considered part of the law, and I'm sure there is agreement to that.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Matthew 4:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The same was in the beginning with God.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 14:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Malachi 3:6a (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For I am the LORD, I change not;
Hebrews 13:8-9 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
There is a new temple in Christ. Who do you think sits on the mercy seat of the new temple? There is a relationship likened unto a parable from the temple made by man, and the new one made by Christ Jesus. Without the shadow of things to come we have no idea what the end result reality means because we have nothing to compare it with.
Exodus 25:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
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No, man is not Spiritual until God creates him a New Creature in Christ ! Adam was carnal, natural 1 Cor 15:46-47
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Adam was natural, earthy and from the earth, nothing spiritual about him, Sorry !
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Adam was natural, earthy and from the earth, nothing spiritual about him, Sorry !
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Yet you have not shown how following the law can show us how to be Christlike. Or show us how to be righteous.
"though shalt not bear false witness"
Those words tell me what I should not do. not how to do it
1. How to do it
2. Why I should do it
3. Why it would be much better not to do it
4. What I should do instead.
can you show me how this tells me how to do it?
on the contrary, if I go around thinking to myself, "I better not bear false witness" It will always be on my mind, and when something is on your mind, you will be tempted to do it if the temptation comes up. (paul tried to show this argument in his epistle)
Is this not true?
Is it not better to think on the things of God, than to think on what I should not do?? If I am thinking of the things of God. the temptation to bear false witness will not even come up, because I would not even be thinking of it.
is this not true?
"though shalt not bear false witness"
Those words tell me what I should not do. not how to do it
1. How to do it
2. Why I should do it
3. Why it would be much better not to do it
4. What I should do instead.
can you show me how this tells me how to do it?
on the contrary, if I go around thinking to myself, "I better not bear false witness" It will always be on my mind, and when something is on your mind, you will be tempted to do it if the temptation comes up. (paul tried to show this argument in his epistle)
Is this not true?
Is it not better to think on the things of God, than to think on what I should not do?? If I am thinking of the things of God. the temptation to bear false witness will not even come up, because I would not even be thinking of it.
is this not true?