What of the dinosaurs?

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Moses said in six work days, that sounds pretty self explanatory

…11"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.
 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/giant-rat-found-bronx-new-york-foot-locker_n_1190141.html

I believe that y'all Evolutionist need to get out and explore sometimes. Do you know that we has shopping malls?

Here are some bite marks that ancient rats made on dinosaur bones 75 million years ago:

Ancient rats coexisted with dinosaurs, gnawed on their ribs - CSMonitor.comd

Dr, Dino and friends: "Rats prove that dinosaurs and humans coexisted less than 6,000 years ago, and even today!"
 

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The controversial discovery of 68-million-year-old soft tissue from the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rexfinally has a physical explanation. According to new research, iron in the dinosaur's body preserved the tissue before it could decay.
The research, headed by Mary Schweitzer, a molecular paleontologist at North Carolina State University, explains how proteins — and possibly even DNA — can survive millennia. Schweitzer and her colleagues first raised this question in 2005, when they found the seemingly impossible: soft tissue preserved inside the leg of an adolescent T. rexunearthed in Montana. Controversial T. Rex Soft Tissue Find Finally Explained
"Could have, might have" is the usual terminology for evolutionists. They can't truthfully say "did" or ""can" using true science devoid of evolutionary bias. If iron in the blood "can" preserve DNA in fossils, then those discoveries ought to be common among most if not all fossils of animals, all vertebrates having blood in them. If the iron did it alone for 65 million years, then animals with the most blood ought to have left fossils somewhat intact with skin, hair, scales, organs. At death the vital organs fill with blood, but the limbs don't drain completely. Iron doesn't stay put in sedimentary rock, but will leach into surrounding rock. Also, the requirements of lithification resulting in compressing animals suddenly enough to shut off air would also trap oxygenated hemoglobin in them. The oxygen carrying iron-containing protein molecule in red blood cells holds a lot more volume of oxygen and other gases than itself, in those last few seconds of life not discharging them. That much trapped oxygen and other chemicals would be sufficient to oxidize the iron into insoluble iron oxide, like rust. Iron destroys tissue rather than preserve it.

Evolutionists whose salaries depend upon being faithful to the prevailing dogma of evolution have no choice but to guess up conclusions that "verify" anything on earth older than a few thousands of years. Evolutionists apparently would rather present myths or whatever else it takes to give "acceptable" explanations of nature than to simply present all the facts. Professional evolutionists are basically followers of naturalism, which is a philosophical viewpoint (like Plato, Socrates, and other philosophies) which claims all of nature arises from purely natural processes, while advocates deny any supernatural explanations. In essence they deny God had or has any effect upon existence. I recommend all Christians look that up, as fairly recently in science history some Christians are compromising with them. Any compromise on origins directly erodes the gospel, for Jesus and the apostles referred much to Genesis origins and the flood in support of their doctrines. I was swept up in that until 31 years old, leaving me until then just playing along with my wife's religion for the sake of peace. I ignored the Bible, Jesus, God, religion, church faithfulness, the works because of what I had been taught about evolution. It was all I knew, which kept me warned to stay away from Jesus. In those church services with my wife I often wanted to break out laughing when Noah's flood was mentioned, but I managed to have respect. They always needed Bible teachers, so actually had me do that. I know God has forgiven me for false teaching, the hearers complimenting me for messages full of lies and false personal comment.

That's why I take great issue with proper Bible study since then, dividing error from truth.

Adopting just a little bit of that naturalism philosophy will distort your Bible doctrine to some degree.
Believe God.

I'm looking for some hematologists online that have shed light on the character of blood enambling such long preservation of DNA.
 

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Moses said in six work days, that sounds pretty self explanatory

…11"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.
In Exodus that seventh DAY is clearly held as one 24 hour period after that DAY the Lord rested after 6 days of creation.

Interesting also is from Adam until Moses in the wilderness that sabbath didn't apply to any human. It was God's rest. It was added in memorial to God's day in Genesis. Nowhere does a day get translated as more than what the context indicates it to be.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Note that God isn't restricted by time. A day with Him doesn't have to line up with a day or year man understands. Men can't relate to a day being a thousand years, or a thousand years a day. That's a divine privilege. We have counted days and years always by the passage of day to night to day within hours each. God doesn't play tricks on our minds, inspiring a man to write "day" when that day really meant "eon", an "eternity" among men.

Common sense, proper exegesis, knowledge of the scriptures, and the establishment of the Sabbath day memorial for the Jews confirms God's intent in those words of Genesis 1.
 
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In Exodus that seventh DAY is clearly held as one 24 hour period after that DAY the Lord rested after 6 days of creation.

Interesting also is from Adam until Moses in the wilderness that sabbath didn't apply to any human. It was God's rest. It was added in memorial to God's day in Genesis. Nowhere does a day get translated as more than what the context indicates it to be.

2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.


Note that God isn't restricted by time. A day with Him doesn't have to line up with a day or year man understands. Men can't relate to a day being a thousand years, or a thousand years a day. That's a divine privilege. We have counted days and years always by the passage of day to night to day within hours each. God doesn't play tricks on our minds, inspiring a man to write "day" when that day really meant "eon", an "eternity" among men.

Common sense, proper exegesis, knowledge of the scriptures, and the establishment of the Sabbath day memorial for the Jews confirms God's intent in those words of Genesis 1.
Yeah wordswordsman, after thinking about it, I believe Christ was crucified, died, and on the THIRD day He was resurrected. These are 24hr days, just as with the creation. God said six literal days and on the seventh He rest. Your right with Peter, I think the thousand years is a day, is a description " to man " what eternity is like. thanks for the post and lesson.
 
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Here are some bite marks that ancient rats made on dinosaur bones 75 million years ago:

Ancient rats coexisted with dinosaurs, gnawed on their ribs - CSMonitor.comd

Dr, Dino and friends: "Rats prove that dinosaurs and humans coexisted less than 6,000 years ago, and even today!"
It has been known for some years that small mammals coexisted with the dinosaurs. That is no surprise, but I was under the impression that bite marks, too, had been known for some time. It is interesting though, reading the article I learned that rats are not mentioned. The bite marks are believed to have been made by an extinct, squirrel-sized rodent. It's funny how journalists sometimes jump to unfounded conclusions, but maybe an editor simply wanted a catchy headline?
 
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"Could have, might have" is the usual terminology for evolutionists. They can't truthfully say "did" or ""can" using true science devoid of evolutionary bias.
Genuine scientists don't like making absolute claims, they leave that for the religious types. :)

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If iron in the blood "can" preserve DNA in fossils, then those discoveries ought to be common among most if not all fossils of animals, all vertebrates having blood in them.
You are missing some important information. First, DNA has never been found in dinosaur remains, but they are looking for it. Horner explained that their hopes are not high. Furthermore, Schweitzer has explained that soft tissue, to date, has only been found in exceptionally well preserved fossils. Specifically, she has only found it in fully articulated remains. For the iron, itself, to survive the samples must have been exceptionally well preserved in the first place, so the remainder of your criticism does not apply. You need to get your facts straight.
 
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Evolutionists whose salaries depend upon being faithful to the prevailing dogma of evolution have no choice but to guess up conclusions that "verify" anything on earth older than a few thousands of years. Evolutionists apparently would rather present myths or whatever else it takes to give "acceptable" explanations of nature than to simply present all the facts.
I just see this as silly babbling.
 
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Furthermore, Schweitzer has explained that soft tissue, to date, has only been found in exceptionally well preserved fossils. Specifically, she has only found it in fully articulated remains. For the iron, itself, to survive the samples must have been exceptionally well preserved in the first place, so the remainder of your criticism does not apply. You need to get your facts straight.
Here is a recent interview with Dr. Mary Schweitzer, less than four months ago:

Not So Dry Bones: An interview with Mary Schweitzer | The BioLogos Forum

Of particular note is this quote by her:

"One thing that does bother me, though, is that young earth creationists take my research and use it for their own message, and I think they are misleading people about it. Pastors and evangelists, who are in a position of leadership, are doubly responsible for checking facts and getting things right, but they have misquoted me and misrepresented the data. They’re looking at this research in terms of a false dichotomy [science versus faith] and that doesn’t do anybody any favors."

Dr. Schweitzer has never given any indication that she thinks the dinosaur fossil in question is not millions of years old.

Shame on those young earth creationists.
 
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Here is a recent interview with Dr. Mary Schweitzer, less than four months ago:

Not So Dry Bones: An interview with Mary Schweitzer | The BioLogos Forum

Of particular note is this quote by her:

"One thing that does bother me, though, is that young earth creationists take my research and use it for their own message, and I think they are misleading people about it. Pastors and evangelists, who are in a position of leadership, are doubly responsible for checking facts and getting things right, but they have misquoted me and misrepresented the data. They’re looking at this research in terms of a false dichotomy [science versus faith] and that doesn’t do anybody any favors."

Dr. Schweitzer has never given any indication that she thinks the dinosaur fossil in question is not millions of years old.

Shame on those young earth creationists.
That's why these discussions and 'reports' only ever take place on creationist websites.
 
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Fossil crowns 'King of the Rabbits'
Giant forebear couldn't hop to save its life
By Doyle Rice
USA TODAY

Researchers recently unearthed an enormous fossil rabbit skeleton on the Spanish island of Minorca. It's not as tall as Jimmy Stewart's imaginary rabbit friend in the 1950 movie Harvey but still six times as big as a rabbit today.
It's the largest rabbit discovered to date, according to the study, which appears in the March issue of the Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology.
"When I found the first bone, I was not aware what this bone represented," says study lead author Josep Quintana of the Institut Català de Paleontologia in Barcelona. "I thought it was a bone of the giant Minorcan turtle."
Minorca is a small island in the Mediterranean Sea off the Spanish coast.
Long extinct, this unusually massive rabbit weighed 26 pounds and was about 3 feet tall when standing on its hind legs. The rabbit, officially called Nuralagus rex, has been nicknamed the "Minorcan King of the Rabbits."
It lived about 3 million to 5 million years ago.
King of Rabbits: Ancient, Gigantic Bunny Discovered | Island Gigantism | Rabbit Fossils



King of Rabbits: Ancient, Gigantic Bunny Discovered | Island Gigantism | Rabbit Fossils
 
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The dinosaurs were all killed in the Lord's judgment against Satan and his angels before Genesis 1:2 and not replaced on the reconditioned earth [look at the other planets today, none are inhabitable and still bear the scars of judgment

Notice that these creatures were all reptilian ..... was this a part of Satan's meddling and why he is called a serpent?

We just do not know what went on between the beginning of creation and the earth's reconditioning for supporting life forms again

All of the fossils discovered including those of the dinosaurs were all a part of the Lord's judgment against Satan's rebellion .... He simply destroyed Satan's play ground and brought total darkness to the universe

And when the Lord then reconstituted the earth's life support systems for human habitation [a new creature] ..... guess who showed up?
 

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I apologize if someone already posted it, I didnt read all the pages, but this is a great movie on topic, observing proof for creation from various angles, biology, astronomy, etc. I enjoyed it so much, maybe you also will like it.

[video=youtube;jB_9I4YV8TU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB_9I4YV8TU[/video]

This is also an amazing video to watch, revealing the complexity of creation: BIOLOGICAL MACHINES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPp8RaRib8
 
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It has been known for some years that small mammals coexisted with the dinosaurs. That is no surprise, but I was under the impression that bite marks, too, had been known for some time. It is interesting though, reading the article I learned that rats are not mentioned. The bite marks are believed to have been made by an extinct, squirrel-sized rodent. It's funny how journalists sometimes jump to unfounded conclusions, but maybe an editor simply wanted a catchy headline?
Oh those were dinorats. They made great pets before the flood haAhAAA
 
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The dinosaurs were all killed in the Lord's judgment against Satan and his angels before Genesis 1:2 and not replaced on the reconditioned earth [look at the other planets today, none are inhabitable and still bear the scars of judgment

Notice that these creatures were all reptilian ..... was this a part of Satan's meddling and why he is called a serpent?




We just do not know what went on between the beginning of creation and the earth's reconditioning for supporting life forms again

All of the fossils discovered including those of the dinosaurs were all a part of the Lord's judgment against Satan's rebellion .... He simply destroyed Satan's play ground and brought total darkness to the universe

And when the Lord then reconstituted the earth's life support systems for human habitation [a new creature] ..... guess who showed up?
They are Preadamic, Most scientist are so stuck on self (look what I found) that they can't see it and try to tie to us, hence evolution and it's lie.
 
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I apologize if someone already posted it, I didnt read all the pages, but this is a great movie on topic, observing proof for creation from various angles, biology, astronomy, etc. I enjoyed it so much, maybe you also will like it.

[video=youtube;jB_9I4YV8TU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB_9I4YV8TU[/video]

This is also an amazing video to watch, revealing the complexity of creation: BIOLOGICAL MACHINES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPp8RaRib8
Very beautiful. Everyone should watch thank you Sister :)
 
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The dinosaurs were all killed in the Lord's judgment....

You've pulled this out of thin air. You have absolutely nothing to base this on.

Can you please back this up? Even later on in your post you say you don't know... So why jump to this baseless conclusion?


Because your trying to fit it into your belief system that's why.

But it's based on nothing.

Nothing.
 
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Then enlighten me.. What are you basing this on apart from wishful thinking and trying to align your belief with reality
 
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Evolution is a man made theory only for the purpose of attempting to disprove the existence of God

I call those that promote this "evil-lutionary" idea the bone peddlers

The point is that the Bible's account of creation is truth because it is the Word of the Creator Himself

..... believe it, or not
 
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