Whatever happened to faith?
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You are forgiven as all are back at the cross at the death this took place for all the world. Which I have perceived you have received and love God, along with the Laws of God from God through the Love of God shown by Christ.
For I see his life manifested in you, where I see that you can't even harm a fly.
We all misquote, and do not necessarily see what the other might be saying, and many times jump to conclusions
Love RedTent for I know God does as God does love us all, regardless. By this type of love is what causes change, at least this is what caused my changes in trusting God
For I see his life manifested in you, where I see that you can't even harm a fly.
We all misquote, and do not necessarily see what the other might be saying, and many times jump to conclusions
Love RedTent for I know God does as God does love us all, regardless. By this type of love is what causes change, at least this is what caused my changes in trusting God
The flesh that one was originally born with, is dead and gone by the power of God in one believing God at God's word
[h=3]Acts 17:22-29[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. [SUP]23 [/SUP]For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. [SUP]24 [/SUP]God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; [SUP]25 [/SUP]neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; [SUP]26 [/SUP]and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; [SUP]27 [/SUP]that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: [SUP]28 [/SUP]for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.
[h=3]Acts 17:22-29[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. [SUP]23 [/SUP]For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. [SUP]24 [/SUP]God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; [SUP]25 [/SUP]neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; [SUP]26 [/SUP]and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; [SUP]27 [/SUP]that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: [SUP]28 [/SUP]for in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.
If I have misread you, I am truly sorry. I understood I was being put down for saying I love the Lord, giving what I should be saying, not in addition, but instead. I understood that as you tell us to have faith, you agreed with all who said it did not include law at all, that faith was sufficient without any acting on it. That is what I believed you stood for. If that is wrong, I am sorry.
As far as questioning if I have received Christ after I have repeatedly said so No, I am not a liar. I do not go around killing kittens, either, in case you feel like asking.
As far as questioning if I have received Christ after I have repeatedly said so No, I am not a liar. I do not go around killing kittens, either, in case you feel like asking.
I have answered this and you can't accept my answer(s) and okay, you do not see that flesh is not right with God thanks to Adam and Eve eating of that tree, that caused death and they lost the Spirit of God at that time. So all when born are born of the flesh nature that is selfish, except two that I know of, that is Christ and John the Baptist per the word.
Maybe now you might see what is said, yet thanks for the asking
Maybe now you might see what is said, yet thanks for the asking
it is plain and simply what one is born with at birth here on earth from the womb of Mommy.
[h=3]John 3:5-6[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [SUP]6 [/SUP]That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[h=3]John 3:5-6[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [SUP]6 [/SUP]That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Hi hoemwardbound,
I understand what you re saying.. all you have said is what the flesh has done..you have still to tell us all what the flesh is?
it's quite an easy question, and I am very interested in WHAT it IS, since you use it in nearly every post. I am not asking what it does, I am asking what is it..what is the flesh that it causes effects?
what is a flesh nature..? first of all you have to tell us what the flesh is.. if flesh is just a thought or sin how can it have a nature?
so again what do you mean by FLESH and not its actions.
I understand what you re saying.. all you have said is what the flesh has done..you have still to tell us all what the flesh is?
it's quite an easy question, and I am very interested in WHAT it IS, since you use it in nearly every post. I am not asking what it does, I am asking what is it..what is the flesh that it causes effects?
what is a flesh nature..? first of all you have to tell us what the flesh is.. if flesh is just a thought or sin how can it have a nature?
so again what do you mean by FLESH and not its actions.
I make a distinction between the law written on stone and the law written in our hearts through the new birth. Both's content are quite the same but the way they operate through us is totally different.
Faith takes hold of Christ and His promises, the law written on our hearts is effective as we lay hold of the Person of Christ...our nature is His. To 'DO' the written law leads to failure and defeat of self to sin...see Rom.7.
Another way to say it is our focus is on the Person of Jesus Christ not the law without or within.
Faith takes hold of Christ and His promises, the law written on our hearts is effective as we lay hold of the Person of Christ...our nature is His. To 'DO' the written law leads to failure and defeat of self to sin...see Rom.7.
Another way to say it is our focus is on the Person of Jesus Christ not the law without or within.
E
I think we get far too caught up trying to understand and articulate what is and isn't law. It doesn't have to be a complex issue, because the complexities lie in how we are spiritually and theologically redeemed by the standard of God, and not so much a question of if we are redeemed. I'm seeing a lot of banter not only in the forums, but within a majority of Christian groups as to whether we are under law. I don't want to make this a long post, so let's keep it to the point.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Absolution: We are no longer under the Law.
Romans 7:12
So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good.
Absolution: The Law is holy, righteous and good.
Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Absolution: You cannot be declared righteous by following the Ten Commandments.
Romans 3:22-24
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Absolution: Righteousness is a gift imparted freely onto all who believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Romans 6:14
For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Absolution: We are no longer under the Law.
Romans 7:12
So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good.
Absolution: The Law is holy, righteous and good.
Romans 3:20
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Absolution: You cannot be declared righteous by following the Ten Commandments.
Romans 3:22-24
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.
Absolution: Righteousness is a gift imparted freely onto all who believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I am using the verse below out of context about Christ and Peter in the conversation about Christ being the Messiah
Yet it pertains to us all, Flesh and blood can't reveal to you what is truth only Father. So no matter which way I reply to you, about what I see Father telling us all, you are having some kind of hard on to asdk me what you should already know as a child of God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Romans 1:4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Could the above verse mean, me, die to me via the death at the cross so that I might know What? Then power of Christ's resurrection, The me that I was born with under law dead to it and be as Paul.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
When are you going to see the exchanged life, your life for his life, or do you already see it? You say you have made your choice and yet keep writing to me you don't see it.
Free choice, the way through the death is shown to you, and this death is the self, co-crucified with Christ at the cross that took place over 2,000 years ago.
Praying you make the choice with God to be dead to self, thus alive to God
All in love to you Phil36
Yet it pertains to us all, Flesh and blood can't reveal to you what is truth only Father. So no matter which way I reply to you, about what I see Father telling us all, you are having some kind of hard on to asdk me what you should already know as a child of God.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Romans 1:4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Philippians 3:10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Could the above verse mean, me, die to me via the death at the cross so that I might know What? Then power of Christ's resurrection, The me that I was born with under law dead to it and be as Paul.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
When are you going to see the exchanged life, your life for his life, or do you already see it? You say you have made your choice and yet keep writing to me you don't see it.
Free choice, the way through the death is shown to you, and this death is the self, co-crucified with Christ at the cross that took place over 2,000 years ago.
Praying you make the choice with God to be dead to self, thus alive to God
All in love to you Phil36