What's the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

[seed_time_harvest]

The law of God is not bondage.
Did God bring the children of Israel out of bondage in Egypt, only to put them back in bondage at Mt. Sinai?

Sin is the bondage.
The rules and traditions of men are bondage.

The law of God is not bondage - It is liberty!

Romans 7:12-15
King James Version(KJV)

12.)Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.)

13.)Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14.)For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15.)For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

 

[WebersHome]

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The language of the new covenant as per Jer 31:31-34 and Ezek 36:24-27
contains several places where God says "I will" while containing zero places
where God says "If you will". In other words: the new covenant's benefits
are unconditional.

And best of all, God is not keeping track of the sins of the covenant's
beneficiaries to throw up at them at the Great White Throne event depicted
at Rev 20:11-15.

● Jer 31:34 . . I will forgive their iniquity and no longer remember their sin.

● 2Cor 5:19 . . God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not
imputing their trespasses unto them

The Greek word for "impute" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means to
keep an inventory, In other words: an indictment; which Webster's defines
as an official written statement charging a person with crimes; for example:

● Rev 20:12 . . I saw the dead, the great and the lowly, standing before the
throne, and scrolls were opened. Then another scroll was opened, the book
of life. The dead were judged according to their deeds, by what was written
in the scrolls.

Those poor tragic dead that John saw in his vision somehow failed to get
themselves protected by the new covenant and that's why they end up
answering to the contents of the scrolls.

● John 5:24 . . I assure you: Those who listen to my message, and believe
in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for
their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

● Rom 4:8 . . Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against
him.

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[Ariel82]

It was not physical blood Jesus shed on the cross that gives us forgiveness of sins, but the blood (wine) of the Passover ceremony

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

When Jesus died on the cross, the old way of doing the Passover became obsolete and the new way was put into effect.

That goes against scriptures that clearly say that our sins were nailed to the cross....there is no scripture that puts salvation into the drinking of communion wine.

Passover was a prophecy about Jesus the spotless lamb, the firstborn of God's children whose blood shed upon the cross protects His people from eternal hell fire, the second death.

 

[Ariel82]

So is it acceptable to subtract Passover and add communion and believe they contain the same promise of forgiveness of sins?

Revelation: 22. 18. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

No this isn't right either. Passover was not replaced by communion. Passover pointed to Jesus redeeming of His people. Communion points to the relationship with God being restored by Jesus death on the cross....only through the shedding of His blood and His death and resurrection are people redeemed.


Just like God takes no pleasure in the blood of animals because the lack of FAITH in the promise of Jesus on the cross, neither does He take pleasure in communion of just wine and bread....unless you have the Holy Spirit and true communion with the Bread of life.

 

[Ariel82]

i never understood this? of course people broke the law at times. sin is in our nature, its gonna happen. i dont remember reading of people being sent to hell or having their family judged because they made a mistake and committed a sin.

God's prophecy that the people will break the old Covenant and be judged for it because they whored after other gods......I suggest reading the following song too....it has a nice prophecy of Jesus and the new covenant in it.


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Deuteronomy: 31. 16. And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them. 17. Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day. Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? 18. And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods. 19. Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel. 20. For when I shall have brought them into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my covenant. 21. And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware. -******

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So is it acceptable to subtract Passover and add communion and believe they contain the same promise of forgiveness of sins?

Revelation: 22. 18. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

Neither passover or communion has in them the promise of forgiveness of sin.

Both are used to help the one who practice remember what God did to free them from slavery, Passover from egypt. and communion from sin.

The Old covenant could not free a person from slavery to sin, they had to remember it every year by the atoninig sactifice. ie, the old covernant enslaved them, because all it could do is bring upon them the curse,

The new covenant frees them from thhe slavery of sin, Because the curse is removed.

The old is conditional (he who does not obey all the words written shall be cursed) and required perfection.

the new is unconditional. And requires faith (real) in christ.

 

[Ariel82]

Deuteronomy: 32. 21. They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. 22. For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. 23. I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. 24. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. 25. The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs. 26. I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

 

[eternally-gratefull]

i never understood this? of course people broke the law at times. sin is in our nature, its gonna happen. i dont remember reading of people being sent to hell or having their family judged because they made a mistake and committed a sin.

the penalty of sin is death

The gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our lord.

That little "mistake" you speak of. Is enough to condemn a man or woman to hell for all eternity..

Thats why the law can never saved, because the law says that little "mistake" makes us guilty, and the only thing which can redeem us is the blood of an innocent.

As James said, If we break the least of the law. we are found guilty of the whole law..

 

[Ariel82]

In case you missed Moses words about a curse if the old Covenant was broken.....

Deuteronomy: 11. 26. Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; 27. A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: 28. And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Also the curse is found here

[h=1]Deuteronomy 27:26[/h][SUP]26 [/SUP]‘Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’
“And all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’

and confirmed by paul here.

Gal 3: [SUP]10 [/SUP]For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.

 

[Ariel82]

2 Corinthians: 3. 7. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8. How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9. For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10. For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11. For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 12. Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13. And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14. But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17. Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18. But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.


****note the law given to Moses or the Old Covenant written on stone (10 commandments) is called the ministry of condemnation and death...new covenant is called ministry of righteousness and Spirit

 

[Ariel82]

The new covenant is a saving faith in Jesus redeeming work on the cross for our sins, His resurrection and seal of the Holy Spirit that transforms us from slaves into the beloved children of God.

 

[Drcraig1]

No this isn't right either. Passover was not replaced by communion. Passover pointed to Jesus redeeming of His people. Communion points to the relationship with God being restored by Jesus death on the cross....only through the shedding of His blood and His death and resurrection are people redeemed.

Just like God takes no pleasure in the blood of animals because the lack of FAITH in the promise of Jesus on the cross, neither does He take pleasure in communion of just wine and bread....unless you have the Holy Spirit and true communion with the Bread of life.

Can you show me where communion is in the bible and where it and where it points to our relationship being restored with God on the cross? Because I never seen the word communion in the bible, so I take it as another man made teaching

 

[Drcraig1]

Neither passover or communion has in them the promise of forgiveness of sin.

Both are used to help the one who practice remember what God did to free them from slavery, Passover from egypt. and communion from sin.

The Old covenant could not free a person from slavery to sin, they had to remember it every year by the atoninig sactifice. ie, the old covernant enslaved them, because all it could do is bring upon them the curse,

The new covenant frees them from thhe slavery of sin, Because the curse is removed.

The old is conditional (he who does not obey all the words written shall be cursed) and required perfection.

the new is unconditional. And requires faith (real) in christ.

The Passover actually does give us forgiveness of sins, its not through the blood on the cross, but the blood (wine) of the Passover

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Passover actually does give us forgiveness of sins, its not through the blood on the cross, but the blood (wine) of the Passover

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus did not say passover caused forgiveness, He said the wine represented his blood, Which was shed for the remission of sin.

Not to mention, Jesus was replacing passover with communion at this supper.. No longer did it represent the freedom from Egypt. But now it represents the freedom from sin.

 

[Ariel82]

The Passover actually does give us forgiveness of sins, its not through the blood on the cross, but the blood (wine) of the Passover

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

They didn't pour out the wine, they drank it.....Jesus blood was poured out for sins...let me gather the verses...you really have never seen them?

 

[Drcraig1]

That goes against scriptures that clearly say that our sins were nailed to the cross....there is no scripture that puts salvation into the drinking of communion wine.

Passover was a prophecy about Jesus the spotless lamb, the firstborn of God's children whose blood shed upon the cross protects His people from eternal hell fire, the second death.

Sorry but communion has No biblical reference, so it has no promise or spiritual value. The Passover is the only bread and wine ceremony recorded in the bible, nothing more, nothing less. And it is directly connected with our salvation. Satan hates the Passover so he makes all his effort to destroy it so no one can be forgiven and they can go where he goes. But let's see that Passover is connected with salvation of your believe in the teachings of Christ

John: 6. 53. Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.

Ephesians: 1. 7. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace

Let's see if this is the blood that is shed on the cross that gives us forgiveness of sins or its this the blood (wine) of the Passover


Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Matthew: 26. 17. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"

 

[Ariel82]

Hebrews: 9. 12. Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14. How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15. And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

[Ariel82]

Communion is just a term to describe the breaking of,bread and drinking of wine in fellowship and remembrance of Christ redeeming work on the cross...I have heard it called "the Lord's feast"....the name isn't as important as the purpose...



John 6:53-58 ESV / 724 helpful votes

So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. ...

1 Corinthians 11:26 ESV / 698 helpful votes

For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.

1 Corinthians 11:24-27 ESV / 636 helpful votes

And when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.

Luke 22:19-20 ESV / 579 helpful votes

And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.

1 Corinthians 11:28 ESV / 410 helpful votes

Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.

Matthew 26:26-28 ESV / 297 helpful votes

Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

John 6:53 ESV / 282 helpful votes

So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

Acts 2:42 ESV / 204 helpful votes

And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.

1 Corinthians 11:27-29 ESV / 197 helpful votes

Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.

John 6:51 ESV / 174 helpful votes

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

John 6:33 ESV / 127 helpful votes

For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

Isaiah 53:5 ESV / 118 helpful votes

But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed.

Luke 24:30 ESV / 106 helpful votes

When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed and broke it and gave it to them.

Luke 22:19 ESV / 88 helpful votes

And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.

 

[Ariel82]

We break bread to remind us of Jesus death and eagerly await His return.