Whats wrong with the NIV bible?

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Rock022

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Not defending KJV only but here is something to ponder...

From 170AD to 419AD several councils listed the canonical books you read today. (all those councils people "hate")

In 1440AD the printing press was invented.

The original 1611AD KJV had 73 books and lasted for 274 years.

The modern 1885AD KJV removed material known as "apocrypha" making it 66 books for the last 128 years.

Today an estimate of 796 million people in the world can not read and write.

This is why I question scripture only theory.
 
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SPUZIT

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Sweet em... get out of this post whoever you can.. God sent you a " pink" Bible. Now if you have grown uncomfortable with it & want something else, then I sugest going to a Christian bookstore sitting down & reading a few before you buy., no one has to be a scholar to hear the word of God neither do you need to read anything you don't trust. Your faith will lead you & what is most important is that you are still after all this still thirsty to read gods word, Jesus takes care of his lambs do not.get Lost in this posts .god bless you, many will pray for you.
 
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Sorry one more thing or two. Thank the good lord that our hope lies not in which Bible we read but in what is in our hearts, how we live our life's, & our salvation prayer, fellowship, & treatment Of others.I originally. Started with the Torah. Does that now exclude me from Christianity? No it does not...boy I think I just opened another can of worms ...
 
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Kefa52

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How far do we take this. Should we all be reading the Hebrew original first draft?????
This is one of those arguments where the Holly Spirit tells me. Don't worry.
 
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Seems most important that we are spending regular time in the Word, growing our faith and evangelizing. Right?
 
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Rock022 said:
Not defending KJV only but here is something to ponder...

From 170AD to 419AD several councils listed the canonical books you read today. (all those councils people "hate")

In 1440AD the printing press was invented.

The original 1611AD KJV had 73 books and lasted for 274 years.

The modern 1885AD KJV removed material known as "apocrypha" making it 66 books for the last 128 years.

Today an estimate of 796 million people in the world can not read and write.

This is why I question scripture only theory.
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FYI The KJV translators put those extra books inbetween the OT & the NT as a historical reference. It is a known fact that you can find on the internet that the KJV translators never accepted those books as scripture, because it went against the scripture as found in the rest of the 66 books of the KJV Bible which is why the guideline given in scripture of no lie can be of the truth rejects them as scripture.

1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth....26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
As for the illiteracy of the people, God promised that all those that seek, shall find so that even muslims that seek the truth out of an oppressive religion that prevents them from seeking, God the Father will reveal His Son to them. Matthew 11:25-27 but to learn of Him & His words Matthew 11:28-30, they will need the scripture in being His disciple, John 8:31-32,36 from those that would seek to dominate them by making them disciple of a church in seeking the glory of a church rather than being a witness of the Son in seeking His glory which is what His disciple shall do as led by Him.
 
ChosenbyHim

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Repentionofignorance said:
Why is the kjv the best translation? I ask you to be careful with your words, because saying that people who do not understand it are not saved is deadly. As long as you are reading the true gospel, than it is not of the devil, or of the world. I have read both versions, and both speak of the same things, just with different words. The niv bible does not attack God. To say that everyone that reads it are not saved is a deception in itself
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Hello Repention, I am being careful but at the same time I am warning the sheep out there that the NIV is a wicked perversion of the Scripture. The NIV is not the true Scripture.

The King James Bible is the true Scripture.

Repention, I never said that everyone who reads an NIV is not saved. Have you even read what I wrote? Now if you had taken the time to read what I actually wrote in this thread and the other one, then you would have known what I said. I wrote that I know that there are sincere Christians out there who are using the NIV. But the fact that those people who are using the NIV are saved does not at all change the fact that the NIV is still a wicked bible perversion. Yes, the NIV is of the Devil and it does attack the Lord Jesus Christ. Have you even looked up those verses which I referenced? Have you taken the time do your own research in regard to the Bible Version Issue. Have you even looked at those websites which I gave the links to? Let me tell you something, if your not going to take the time do the research and if your not going to do your due diligence in regard to this matter, then you have nothing to say about it.

Most Christians today that hear that there are great and serious error sin the NIV and modern versions, most of the time they don't even take the time to look into the issue to see whether or not it is so. But rather they just stay in their ignorance because one of their favorite tv preachers uses it. So instead of taking the Bible Version Controversy seriously, they just shrug it off with their shoulders and pretend it is not a real issue when in fact, it is the most important issue that there is facing Christianity today.

Just because Chuck Swindoll or Charles Stanley, or some other televangelist uses it does not make it okay. At the Judgment Seat of Christ, you are not going to be standing before your tv preacher, you are going to be standing before the Lord Jesus Christ and you will have to give account to Him just like we all will.

The NIV is filled with serious and grave errors, and so are all the modern perversions.

If you want your life to change as a Christian for the better, then get a King James Bible which God's perfect and holy word.


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Rock022 said:
Not defending KJV only but here is something to ponder...

From 170AD to 419AD several councils listed the canonical books you read today. (all those councils people "hate")

In 1440AD the printing press was invented.

The original 1611AD KJV had 73 books and lasted for 274 years.

The modern 1885AD KJV removed material known as "apocrypha" making it 66 books for the last 128 years.

Today an estimate of 796 million people in the world can not read and write.

This is why I question scripture only theory.
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If God has inspired something, it is inspired. Doesn't matter if it's lumped in with a bunch of junk. The bible does not lose its value when it is placed on a shelf in a public library between a Quran and a Book of Mormon.

The fact that Catholics have tried to add to what God has inspired, and that the Anglicans included it as the Apocrypha (please note, that is different in meaning than deuterocanon) does not mean anything else was not inspired.

Also, illiteracy is not an argument against Sola Scriptura.
 
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All I'm saying is, the niv bible helped me understand the kjv one. I prefer kjv, but I cannot understand it as well. I know the same gospel as you, and the same savior, and the same God, which I had first truly learned about in the niv. Why make people read the kjv if they don't know the true meaning? I do not read the niv because someone else does, and even if someone does do this, as long as they learn the true gospel, it is correct. the devil cannot mess with God' s word, and if he does, than it does not last. If the niv was corrupt, I'm sure it would be gone by now. The kjv is a translated book too, it is not perfect in that respect. it may not have as many errors, but something is always lost in translation. If the Holy Spirit had a problem with the niv I'm sure He would have said something by now. =)
 
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The legs of this dead horse were drug off days ago....... let the poor thing die.
 
ChosenbyHim

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Repentionofignorance said:
All I'm saying is, the niv bible helped me understand the kjv one. I prefer kjv, but I cannot understand it as well. I know the same gospel as you, and the same savior, and the same God, which I had first truly learned about in the niv. Why make people read the kjv if they don't know the true meaning? I do not read the niv because someone else does, and even if someone does do this, as long as they learn the true gospel, it is correct. the devil cannot mess with God' s word, and if he does, than it does not last. If the niv was corrupt, I'm sure it would be gone by now. The kjv is a translated book too, it is not perfect in that respect. it may not have as many errors, but something is always lost in translation. If the Holy Spirit had a problem with the niv I'm sure He would have said something by now. =)
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Here's the thing though Repention,

The Holy Spirit has led Christians to the King James Bible. The Holy Spirit will bear witness to the King James Bible. Like I said earlier, if there is a passage in the KJV which you do not understand, then just ask God to show and reveal it to you. After the King James Bible is God's holy Book.

Now in regard to your comment about the Christians learning the true Gospel, it is like Sam Gipp said and I quote him saying:

"Generally, the facts surrounding the gospel of Jesus Christ and the simplicity of salvation are found intact even in the grossest perversions of Scripture." - Sam Gipp, (The Answer Book)

Another thing you need to consider is to look at how many times the modern versions have been changed and revised. They have to keep revising the modern versions to keep them selling as good as the King James Bible. Consider the NIV 2011 revision and the NIV 1984. Between the 1984 Edition and the 2011 Revision of the NIV, there are at least 12056 verses which differ (about 38.8%).

The text of the New American Standard Bible has been changed so many times, it is just unbelievable.

Now compare that with the text of the King James Bible. The text of the King James Bible has never been revised. Now how do you explain that Repention?

The text of the King James Bible has remained constant and consistent for over 402 years now. It has stayed the same. The King James Bible has also remained in popularity for that same amount of time (402 years).

Most of these new versions can't even remain on the store shelf for 20 years without having to be revised.

There are no errors in the King James Bible. The King James Bible was translated perfectly.
 
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Good thread. I am glad I use the HCSB version.
 
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