When the Supreme Court Approved Gay Marriage, What ALL Happened to the USA?

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VCO

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Let's stick to Leviticus, or at least the OT, for starters.

The Hebrews back in the days of the OT didn't know anything about those verses in the NT.

So you have in Leviticus 18:22 the verse about a man lying with another man.

Then in Leviticus 18:23, you have the verse about a woman lying with a beast.

Where is the verse about a woman lying with another woman?

Wouldn't you think a good place for it would be between those other two verses?

2 Peter 1:20-21 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Matthew 5:18-20 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

John 14:15 (NASB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

Genesis 2:22-24 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Proverbs 30:18-20 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] There are three things which are too wonderful for me, Four which I do not understand:
[SUP]19 [/SUP] The way of an eagle in the sky, The way of a serpent on a rock, The way of a ship in the middle of the sea, And the way of a man with a maid.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] This is the way of an adulterous woman: She eats and wipes her mouth, And says, "I have done no wrong."

Prov 30:18-20 Hypocrisy is illustrated by four natural analogies of concealment: (1) an eagle leaves no trail in the air; (2) a slithering snake leaves no trail on the rock; (3) a ship leaves no trail in the sea; (4) a man leaves no marks after he has slept with a virgin. These actions are all concealed and serve to illustrate the hypocrisy of the adulterous woman who hides the evidences of her shame while professing innocence
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.
Canaanite spirits are the spirits behind--
addictions and sexual perversions. This is why Sodom and Gomorrah are portrayed in Scriptures as Canaanite cities:
. . .
The spirits of homosexuality and lesbianism, along with all other sexual perversions, are Canaanite spirits. These spirits operate through people's emotions and make a concerted effort to shut off the person's mind, since the mind is the part of the soul most related to making judgments; the conscience resides in the mind, and the mind is the one designed to store God's laws and apply them with wisdom to make judgments:

The Canaanites
Leviticus 20:23 (GW)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Never follow the practices of the people I am forcing out of your way. I cannot stand them because they did all these things.
 
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It seems to me the USA just keeps getting more and more morally corrupt. Has it always been this way, or are we steadily getting worse?

Just like the Roman Empire, which got steadily WORSE, and WORSE, before it fell.
 
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Just like the Roman Empire, which got steadily WORSE, and WORSE, before it fell.
Yes, I've heard that the Roman Empire fell because of its moral corruptness, but the empire lasted for quite a while. I wonder what's in store for the USA.
 

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I would agree with Prodigal. JackH is 98, and Ithamar is 35. JackH has a American flag and Ithamar is from Saint Kitts and Nevis. This portrays deception.
Personally I think he was 20 going on 15, either way bye, bye Jack. He did provoke me into digging into the scriptures some more, and into lifestyles of the Canaanites. Check out my post #301, I a sure I found an OT verse that covers the fact that God's people are to stay away from any form sexual perversion, including lesbianism.
 

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Yes, I've heard that the Roman Empire fell because of its moral corruptness, but the empire lasted for quite a while. I wonder what's in store for the USA.
Let's hope we get to fly away before it happens. I started a thread a while back that discussed the possibility of a coming nuclear war being described in the Bible. I am very convinced that the Great City Babylon, which will be destroyed by fire coming from above, is actually incoming ICBMs hitting New York City. And if they hit New York, it only stands to reason that several other big US Cities will be hit too. Here is that Thread that I started. http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/109799-does-bible-describe-coming-nuclear-war.html
 
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Let's hope we get to fly away before it happens. I started a thread a while back that discussed the possibility of a coming nuclear war being described in the Bible. I am very convinced that the Great City Babylon, which will be destroyed by fire coming from above, is actually incoming ICBMs hitting New York City. And if they hit New York, it only stands to reason that several other big US Cities will be hit too. Here is that Thread that I started. http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/109799-does-bible-describe-coming-nuclear-war.html
It's sort of hard telling the future. Certainly Russia could cause us harm if they chose to. There are Muslims that would hurt us if they could.
 

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It's sort of hard telling the future. Certainly Russia could cause us harm if they chose to. There are Muslims that would hurt us if they could.

About a week ago on the news, I heard Vladimir Putin bragging he now had mobile ICBMs that can evade all of the USA's missile defense systems, and he was ordering 40 more to be built. AND Iran has been working on building ICBMs for some time now; and certainly China has them too. I am a Cold War Veteran, and it certainly looks to me like: HERE WE GO AGAIN.

So it is easily within the range of possibilities, especially since the nature of GOD also involves punishing the nations, like Israel, by letting foreign armies over run and conquer them.
 
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Saints I am having a hard time with the posts that I read with the judgment of the Lord being on the USA. In the old testament God's judgment fell when Israel partook of the sin of the land forsaking God's laws and commandments.with Sodom and Gomorrah it was not destroyed untill lot and family were taken out, a type of the rapture pictured there. So I don't see the church embracing this decision at least the real church so are we talking about the rapture to happen very soon? As I posted earlier we are a nation founded on Christian principles but we are not Christian exclusive. My thoughts are we are headed for the great apostasy to take place and we are to be about our father's business un till he comes. I never said that I was the brightest bulb in the pack Lord knows I am not so what are your thoughts on this?

I've seen the post of how bad the USA is and agree with a lot of what's been said. We can do better, far better than what we've done, but remember we live in a nation that has freedom of religion,which is upheld and protected by law. This very post I am doing in other countries would be a death sentence or at least a jail sentence. We are number 1 as far as humanitarian efforts which I am grateful for , regardless of motives we help and support a great deal of charitable works. We support Israel maybe not in every decision but if worse comes to worst we have his back.we care for our homeless in this nation as well as abroad. We have defended the weak...etc we have many issues here that need improving we all agree on that but unlike other nations the freedoms we do have are pro god if you compare it to nations. We have a right in this country to speak out against this latest decision not only in our law but also in gods , now compare that to some countries, there is a lot of good we do and a lot of freedoms we take for granted but one would have to admit it could be far worse........just saying.
 
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People of the occult interpret religions according to their occult foundation,which they have an interpretation of the Bible that is based on the exaltation of people,and nature worship.These people also want population reduction,and to be a vegetarian,so they promote homosexuality for population reduction,and being a vegetarian because they reverence animals.

The Bible tells us that eventually people will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth,but want to hear it according to their own lusts,which will be an interpretation that will deceive the world,and the only reason this can happen is because God is allowing all people that to not love Him to have their way and go against the truth and follow the beast kingdom.

The Bible says the man of sin will cast the truth to the ground and stamp upon it,be in to witchcraft,and not honor a personal God,but honor the God of forces.

Since these occultists want peace on earth,according to their own ways,one of the problems is over population,so they want to promote homosexuality to cut down on population,and also the devil wants to mock God's ways,and since people eventually will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth,but that occult interpretation,homosexuality will become accepted.

These people are trying to put it out there,homosexuality,because many have given over to that occult interpretation of the Bible,which eventually will be standard Christianity.

These people think they have the correct interpretation of the Bible,and Christianity,and they want to establish the kingdom of God in the Bible on earth,hence the beast kingdom,which fits that false interpretation of the Bible,which this can only happen because God is allowing the world to go against the truth.

These people will establish the beast kingdom,and think they are winning against the people that oppose them,mainly Christians,but also Muslims that have the believe in a personal God,or anybody else that does not fit their agenda,but they do not realize that God is allowing them to have their way,and they will think where is your God to avenge you for you are falling before us,but God is allowing them to go against the truth.

They are not winning when they think we have brought about the beast kingdom and where are the people's Gods to help them,and the world says who is able to make war against the beast,for they think he can establish his kingdom with no hindrances,but they are losing because they are falling away from the only source of power,God,that can prosper them.

God tells us to not go along with that occult interpretation of the Bible,that promotes homosexuality,that will deceive the world.
 

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Saints I am having a hard time with the posts that I read with the judgment of the Lord being on the USA. In the old testament God's judgment fell when Israel partook of the sin of the land forsaking God's laws and commandments.with Sodom and Gomorrah it was not destroyed untill lot and family were taken out, a type of the rapture pictured there. So I don't see the church embracing this decision at least the real church so are we talking about the rapture to happen very soon? As I posted earlier we are a nation founded on Christian principles but we are not Christian exclusive. My thoughts are we are headed for the great apostasy to take place and we are to be about our father's business un till he comes. I never said that I was the brightest bulb in the pack Lord knows I am not so what are your thoughts on this?

I've seen the post of how bad the USA is and agree with a lot of what's been said. We can do better, far better than what we've done, but remember we live in a nation that has freedom of religion,which is upheld and protected by law. This very post I am doing in other countries would be a death sentence or at least a jail sentence. We are number 1 as far as humanitarian efforts which I am grateful for , regardless of motives we help and support a great deal of charitable works. We support Israel maybe not in every decision but if worse comes to worst we have his back.we care for our homeless in this nation as well as abroad. We have defended the weak...etc we have many issues here that need improving we all agree on that but unlike other nations the freedoms we do have are pro god if you compare it to nations. We have a right in this country to speak out against this latest decision not only in our law but also in gods , now compare that to some countries, there is a lot of good we do and a lot of freedoms we take for granted but one would have to admit it could be far worse........just saying.

OH MY, are you ever using a human YARD STICK to measure the good we have done.

WE HAVE MURDERED MORE BABIES IN THE NAME OF THE GREAT GODDESS PRO-CHOICE than the Hittites ever dreamed of sacrificing to Baal.

We have fallen away from being One Nation Under GOD, into a NATION that turns her BACK on GOD.

GREED in this Country is OUT OF CONTROL, and GREED is IDOLATRY (Col. 3:5).

The majority of Christians have become the most LUKEWARM CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED.

We have set up the LARGEST STATUE of the Babylonian Goddess Ishtar that has ever been built, and planted it in the HARBOR of the wealthiest Sea Port in the WORLD.



BABYLONIAN GODDESS ISHTAR



Revelation 18:8-23 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] "For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] "And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'
[SUP]11 [/SUP] "And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargoes any more
[SUP]12 [/SUP] cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and bronze and iron and marble,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "The fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls;
[SUP]17 [/SUP] for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?'
[SUP]19 [/SUP] "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'
[SUP]20 [/SUP] "Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, because God has pronounced judgment for you against her."
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Then a strong angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "So will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down with violence, and will not be found any longer.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] "And the sound of harpists and musicians and flute-players and trumpeters will not be heard in you any longer; and no craftsman of any craft will be found in you any longer; and the sound of a mill will not be heard in you any longer;
[SUP]23 [/SUP] and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery.

Colossians 3:4-7 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For it is because of these things that the wrath of God will come upon the sons of disobedience,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and in them you also once walked, when you were living in them.



What is the FIRE that will destroy the GREAT International Seaport City of COMMERCE, that John would recognize the STATUE in the Harbor as BEING the symbol of BABYLON? Most likely Nuclear ICBMs.
 
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It is too late for us. This nation has reached, and passed, the point of no return. Debauchery and evil have become so deep-rooted in our culture that we cannot reverse it. Pray for our nation, sure, altho I consider it useless, but most of all pray that God will save as many souls as possible because we are headed rapidly for ruin.

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Please do not give on them that 'easily', but rather 'act' or 'respond' according to Ephesians chapter 6,15, that;

15. '"...................................... and as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the Gospel of peace."

If JESUS would have decided to 'consider it useless', to make them 'believe in HIM', even though HE knew GOD the FATHER have 'blinded their eyes' and 'stopped their ears', HE wouldn't have said this prayer for them towards the end, that;

"FATHER forgive them for they knew not what they do."

Before this from the beginning itself, HE did 'rebuke' and 'correct' them of their 'ignorance' and 'hypocrisy'.

There are some 'brave' and 'loyal' brethren are doing that in USA and many other countries. Why don't you all pray for them and their 'preaching' and 'teaching' and 'boldness' and 'protection' to 'succeed' for GOD instead also. And by GOD's will, HE may remove the placed 'hindrance', to the Jews the 'veil' and to the Gentiles,'the god of this world blindness' and give them the 'gift of salvation' in order for them to 'see' and 'believe' CHRIST of the New Covenant/Testament, like us from the beginning, perhaps.

Brief 'references' about 'loving our enemies', is written in Luke 6;27-36 and onwards.

"Heavenly FATHER, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, give us the 'boldness' to 'love our enemies' and 'pray for them' and 'bless them' and 'do Good to them', even though they mean us 'harm'. Give us the 'joy' and 'excitement', even though they do us harm, even to death. "

"In the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, All-Honor and All-Praise and All-Glory, belongs to only you, forever and ever. Amen."


Partially quite a 'similar prayer' was prayed by the 'believers' in Jerusalem, when King Herod was 'persecuting' the church and have Apostle John's brother, James 'beheaded'. And they received the HOLY SPIRIT to 'Help' them.