Which Delivered Us from the Wrath to Come. (1Th 1:10)
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He sets his approval of the whole book in that way .Not only inspired but signified the meaning. (Corinthians 4:18) Called it the hidden Manna in chapter 2 Revelation. Manna literally meaning "What is it"??? The bread of unfamiliarity .The daily bread of his will .
God is not a man as us. The signified food the disciples at first knew not of .Believing the unseen will of our father as he gives us his hidden understanding called parables.
Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
What would be the purpose for literalizing the signified understanding? Is the phrase thousand years the only word not used as a metaphor in that parable?
God is not a man as us. The signified food the disciples at first knew not of .Believing the unseen will of our father as he gives us his hidden understanding called parables.
Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
What would be the purpose for literalizing the signified understanding? Is the phrase thousand years the only word not used as a metaphor in that parable?
Other than it (thousand years ) is used 9 times as the golden measure to represent a unknown all 9 times.? (measure of faith ) not once 1=1 . or a thousands year is a day. and not as if it was 1 day .
Take that and add the prescription for the entire book is given in the opening words as not only inspired but also "signified"
The word thousand is used that way through out the bible it represents a unknown. God does not number people or time .
Thousands in 10's and 100's and at times 1 is used as to whatever in in view. Food, people time .
Ten equals all that will come.
Genesis 18:31-33 King James Version (KJV) And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. And the Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
In the same way one is used a pattern throughout.
Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Study the use of the word thousand and then decide. The number of times the the word thousand is used to represent a unknown could surprise some.
Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Not known no need to know.
Take that and add the prescription for the entire book is given in the opening words as not only inspired but also "signified"
The word thousand is used that way through out the bible it represents a unknown. God does not number people or time .
Thousands in 10's and 100's and at times 1 is used as to whatever in in view. Food, people time .
Ten equals all that will come.
Genesis 18:31-33 King James Version (KJV) And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. And the Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.
In the same way one is used a pattern throughout.
Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Study the use of the word thousand and then decide. The number of times the the word thousand is used to represent a unknown could surprise some.
Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Not known no need to know.
They are all under the wrath that is being revealed . The greater wrath or tribulation is dead
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Romans 1: 18
What greater tribulation is greater than the wrath of God? Why divide the same wrath ?
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Romans 1: 18
What greater tribulation is greater than the wrath of God? Why divide the same wrath ?
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Noah was above the 'wrath' as the Church will be one day,. Lot was under testing, not wrath. Passover was just that, God's wrath passed over those who applied physical blood to their physical doorposts.
The point was, there was wrath revealed and Noah and the Israelites did not experience it.
The point was, there was wrath revealed and Noah and the Israelites did not experience it.
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According to your scenario, the Church also will taste of God's physical fury poured out on this world, seeing the Church is the same in the great trib as it is today. So I guess 'the wrath to come' is only spiritual for you even though in context in Revelation physical calamities are coming.
Revelation 6:17 (KJV) For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 6:17 (KJV) For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
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The word "Tribulation in any verse is talking about afflictions, trials or temptations and the word "Wrath" when it comes to the wrath of god is always talking about the "Punishment of God". We are not appointed to suffer any of the Wrath/Punishment of God.
However we are instructed to count all trials as joy and to glory in all tribulations.
Rom 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Suffering the Tribulation to come is not the same event as the wrath to come. Wrath and Tribulation speak of 2 different events that will take place at 2 different times. The Tribulation first which will be implemented against us and then the Wrath of God comes to punish those left behind after the resurrection.
However we are instructed to count all trials as joy and to glory in all tribulations.
Rom 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
Jas 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Suffering the Tribulation to come is not the same event as the wrath to come. Wrath and Tribulation speak of 2 different events that will take place at 2 different times. The Tribulation first which will be implemented against us and then the Wrath of God comes to punish those left behind after the resurrection.
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